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Please explain same legalities?
I agree with ES on this one. Go ahead and grant two adults of consenting age to have a domestic partnership so the same legalities are granted. Just don't call it marriage. Maintain that for one man and one woman only.
I disagree with sexuality myself. However, that doesn't mean it's my right to impede them in life.
Please explain same legalities?
I wouldn't be able to start with all concievable ones, but marriage does automatically grant a status that otherwise gets tricky to lay out in a legal do ent.
We have to accept the fact that people want this. What is the harm in such liberties?
give me two or three.
Why are you so demanding on this? I agree legal papers can be written up to cover most things. I do know some situations exist. I do not recall the specifics. It's not important enough for me to look up.
I personally do not agree with the lifestyle myself. but I am at least not bigoted in this setting as you apparently are. I try not to impose my moralities on others. I am adamantly opposed to calling a gay union, a marriage. I am not opposed to allowing them a status that grants then the same umbrella of privileges as marriage, and for some, the status is a necessary part for them to feel complete as a couple.
What's the big deal?
If you want answers to this, find someone who actually cares about this issue rather than my limited viewpoint of liberty. That is the extent of my care of this issue. That people can live as they wish in this land of liberty.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Just do me a favor and tell me what privileges of marriage are you talking about? ES gave me a list. Of course he was wrong, but at least he gave it a shot.
wow 2cents just obliterated everyone.
I really don't want to become an expert on the legal arrangements of domestic partner benefits for sexuals, but I did read an article from New Jersey that discussed how their new civil unions law isn't effective to allow the gays to get the equivalent of spousal benefits (i.e., the ones that are required by law to be offered) from their employers. Some employers are arguing that since a civil union is not the same thing as a marriage, they don't have to offer partner benefits to their gay employees who have civil unions.
Not at all. He has simply taken a position where my belief in liberty oppose his. At the same time, I wish not to defend gay rights. The subject creeps me out and I have better things to do. I know of some things, but would have to take time to insure I had correct sources and specifics. I have better things to do with my time.
What creept you out? Gay rights?
I have some personal biases against sexually. I believe it's flat out wrong. The thought of "in through the out door" is disgusting to me. Even when it's a woman. It's not clean, and it's not healthy.
I should have used the word "disgusts" instead.
Again, It is not my right to infringe on other's rights. The liberty aspect is my view. It's not the "gay rights" aspect that bothers me. As long as it doesn't move to "special rights," I believe in liberty for all.
What if your brother turned out to be gay? Or your son?
I already know several gay people. I maintain a level of tolerance, and let them know if they tread into subjects I don't like discussing. Most of them are pretty good people. Some, I stay away from.
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