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I love Findawg, but lately what I'm seeing is just an old man. And he's always been in love with his own shot.
It's mid-March.
8 seed is 5 GB from 1 seed. If this were baseball, his ass would be in Austin.
I love Findawg, but lately what I'm seeing is just an old man. And he's always been in love with his own shot.
His shoot will turn out to be FINE soon
I remember last two seasons he has sucked his shooting for a periodand he figured it out then
I'm not believing that he is a better starter than Manu, but he wasn't the scapegoat of the loss either.
Give trust to every spur(except Stoudamire...)
Finley has sucked ass defensively, I'm fairly certain nothing in the Spurs playbook says make sure you are guarding open space on the court.
I'm with Kori, start Udoka, Finley has been a turnstyle and shooting like . In short, useless.
Sad thing is he's Pop's boy, which means he'll probably continue to start for the rest of the season and the playoffs.
I'd start Udoka in a heartbeat right now.
He is playing vastly superior to Finley, while missing a rotation every now and then (which is to be expected still in his first year in this system), he has far surpassed my expectations to this point.
You have to live with his shooting, I happen to think its slowly improving, but if you put a gun to my head and I have to pick one, I want Udoka, if for nothing than his defensive abilities.
I'd like for Barry to be healthy though when he returns, but thats still a couple of weeks away, we'll see what happens at that time.
It doesn't matter who starts as Finley will still get 20-24 minutes until Barry returns. It's simple we need Finley to hit shots and help spread the floor no matter when his minutes come.
this thread and the conversation about Fin starting may have nothing to do with his D shall his J produces 12 points a game.. as he is not producing on the O end we're all exited about Udoka starting...
Its more like Finley is doing absolutely nothing for this team right now and in the recent past.
LOL wow how did I miss this thread? I was just saying this in another thread for like the 1000000 time. This is one of the only starting line up changes Pop hasn't tried and it's the only one I wanted Pop to do since January.
This would also be perfect for when Barry comes back. With this move you can bring Brent off the bench again with out having to worry about court time for Ime.
I think Ime's shooting will improve in the starting 5 and he can help set a better defensive tone to start the game that will hopefully carry on through out the game for 48 minutes. I really do think this move needs to be done. Why can Pop try everything else yet he won't do this?
The way Michael is playing we might have to Steve Kerr him or worse yet Steve Smith him for the rest of the season.
didn't get to see the game (funeral) - why didn't Udoka play in the last part of the game (not that you can read Pop's mind but was there anything else?) His line didn't look that bad - Finley's was terrible.
THIS ! Why does Pop try different from game to game to game? Its ok against ty teams but against good teams we need to come out of the gates strong and get a nice lead instead of dragging ass so therefore i say START MANU. His numbers have been better anyway when starting this yr so far. Finley is a waste of space right now, in 0 for 6 shooting today, at this point MORE UDOKA, LESS FINLEY or MORE BARRY when he comes back LESS FINLEY.
It's a weak excuse to say leave Manu on the bench because Oberto plays better with Manu. I mean, check 82games.com sometime, EVERYBODY plays better with Manu. Good god, it's Manu.I believe today he said that he plans on keeping Manu coming off the bench for the rest of the season... which really means nothing coming from Pop
For the record, I prefer Manu in the starting lineup. I think you should start your best five -- that's Duncan, Manu, Tony, Bowen and someone else. But, I understand Pop's reasoning of placing Manu on the bench - he gives the second unit the scoring they need. I also think Pop wants to start KT. And if Oberto is on the bench, he plays better in the unit with Manu.
I'm sick of watching Finley just completely miss rotations. He'll have one good shooting game and then everyone will love him again, but I'm not sure he's the answer as a starter anymore. (hopefully he steps up though)
http://82games.com/0708/0708SASP.HTM
The problem today was that the starters played like complete dog . Tony was so-so, but the others were terrible. Without the Manu/Oberto/Udoka trio, we get blown out.
You missed my point about that. I'm saying that Oberto sucks without Manu. So Pop doesn't want to render Oberto useless. So either he'll start Manu and Oberto (which today he said he is not going to start Manu), or he'll start Finley (I guess) and KThomas.
And I don't think Oberto is the primary reason Manu doesn't start. I just think Pop wants his scoring punch off the bench and he wants to manage his minutes better.
I'd rather he just start Manu with KT. But Pop wants Manu off the bench now.
I would start Udoka until Barry comes back. Finley just sucks now.
The Spurs FO decided to go with the veterans of 07.
They kept Oberto and sent Scola to Houston.
They kept Barry and Bowen and Horry and Finley.
Finley was very important in key playoffs games last year.
And in long stretches this year too.
Popovich will stick to that and if he feels that starting makes Finley feels better, he will continue starting him.
Starting someone is just telling him "We count on you".
What really matters is who il playing at the END of close games.
Finley hasn't done anything in long stretches this year. Even in the rare month where is split is above 40, he lays some eggs. He's shooting 33 on the road. On pace for 26 overall in March. What is it with people's fetish with this guy? We already gave him a ring, we don't owe him perpetual excuses. He is a liability on both ends of the court.
Start Manu, stop using him as yo-yo because of POP's inability to develop a bench.
I don't think so. Manu was coming off the bench and Oberto start last playoffs and Oberto played very well. In nov/dic Oberto had a really good games and Manu comes off the bench. Thomas start for five games and Manu start 3 and came off the bench 2 and the Oberto stats down.
The Oberto's play hurts coming off the bench.Doesn't matter Manu as start or Manu in the bench, 'cause I think the Thomas play is more solid without it mattering as start or coming off the bench I prefer Oberto in the starting lineup, there his play improving and Thomas as a solid Tim's back up.
On other hands I agree with you about "Pop wants Manu's scoring punch off the bench and he wants to manage his minutes better".
I belong to the restricted crowd of those that believe players own championships.
Fans dont'.
They just WATCH. And cheer.
Guess why is that.
Finley has earned his championship by making some pretty big shots.
Popovich has some experience in winning championships and KNOWS distinctly well that for the Spurs to repeat he needs every single piece of his squad ready and confident.
Including Finley, and Horry, a non-en y so far.
My thoughts on the topic:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...1&postcount=28
Bring Finley off the bench.
We as is SAS but w/e, cherry-pick something to go on a rant if you must. Yes, Michael Finley is better in a Los Spurs uniform than most fans. He is also much worse this year than most of the leauge. His development is of no concern to me at this point in the season: he has been getting tons of minutes all year and stinking up the gym. How much more time does he deserve because he made some cute joke about sleeping with the game ball?
Finley was a nice story in the playoffs last year, but if you think he made some irreplaceable contribution you are kidding yourself. There are tons of players not named Michael Finley in this league that can knock down open jumpers at 41%, and probably defend a little better.
Its not so much his offense or jumper. Its his defense. When they played the Nuggets, Carmelo went off to start the third quarter. Finley was the one on him. Coincidence??? I don't think so. I say you start Udoka because of his defense. Bring Oberto, Manu, Finley, Stoudemire, and Horry off the bench.
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