Crybaby fans act like Bowen does this on a nightly basis.
bowen is by so far, not the only player who tests the limits mannnnnn at allll.
he knows wtf the refs do or wont do... the tendencies of the game or obvious to him.
why cant that be that?
he does not cheat... he plays, on a level people envy? I mean . if it wasnt bowen then who would it be?
that is sill able to post in here? phx fans should be ashamed
Back to the actual incident, I just wanted to add my opinion on what happened.
First, I like Bruce Bowen, but he definitely pushes the envelop when it comes to being dirty. But, that's part of his make-up and how he has made himself a good player in the league. I don't think a lot of what he does is much of a big deal. There are some, and I actually think this was one of those cases.
While it may look like Chris Paul hit Bowen in between the legs, I think it's debatable because the basketball was still around that area and Paul was trying to get it. But, it's also arguable the other way and he very well may have had made an attempt to hit Bowen in an inappropriate place.
However, with what Bruce did, there is no debate as to what he did. There was an intentional knee to Paul's upper body to push him back down to the floor. And, my biggest problem with it was that it was that it happened after the whistle was blown. Even if you want to argue that Bruce was just trying to get into Paul's head and get him to blow a fuse, I think it's unnecessary to do it in such a manner. Do it during the game, not after play is whistled dead. That's bush.
Now, people have already mentioned it, and we already know that Chris Paul is as compe ive as they come, exemplified with him punching Julius Hodge in his balls in college. I actually don't think Paul has a problem with rough, physical play when it's about compe ion and winning games. But, I do think when the whistle blows, it's a different story.
Paul probably wasn't playing very cleanly either, but I think in this instance Bruce was more in the wrong for what he did.
I just watched the video from the first post. That's a bad angle to see what actually happened. In the Spurs broadcast, they showed a much better angle. When Paul violently goes back to the court at the end of the skirmish Bowen didn't really touch him. That was just Paul flopping to the ground after momentarily losing his cool and taking a swipe at Bowen. The angle shown in that video makes it look like Bowen kicked him to the ground ....... but that's not what really happened.
We have a winner.
Also, Bowen's behavior isn't shocking or anything. Like many other once talented guys, they get old,their skills erode, and they resort to cheap tactics in order to either
A) Gain an advantage or
B) Vent their frustrations over becoming basically old and ineffective otherwise.
Horry is prime example A
Ainge was that guy when he was a SUN.
To be fair...Shaq may become that guy too but like the above poster said...
As long as he's on my team and not taking from anybody it's cool.
It is what it is and it's pathetic looking from the outside in.
Oh my gosh, I just watched the video in slow-motion on our TV - Paul hits Bowen in the nuts twice! We are going to sleep right now, but timvp will clip/upload the slow-motion version when we wake up. It doesn't look like Bowen even kicks him - Paul just flails back.
If Paul hits Bowen in the nuts, then Paul is definitely wrong.
But, I don't buy any argument that involves defending Bowen because his attempt at kneeing him didn't actually connect. It was still blatant that there was intent to make contact with the knee. Just like taking a swing at someone but not connecting would still be an assault.
Reminds me of when JET was speed-bagging Finley.
He clearly hits him in the nuts ... twice. There's not even any mistaking it. I thought I saw it when the game was playing. But we just looked in a clear, slow-motion version on our Slingbox. There's not a doubt.
Was he just fighting for loose balls?
Cool. Paul was definitely wrong in doing so.
Bowen is in the wrong for trying to knee Paul in the head.
Welcome to the NBA young fella
CP3 got what he deserved.. that's what Bruce is all about... a justifier presence... like it or hate it... who gives a ? he plays on the edge but never suspended.. do you think he bribes Stu Jackson?:
I think Duncan saw Bowen's knee come out b/c he stepped right in between the two pretty quickly.
Who cares. They're all compe ors, and the game was still close at the time.
I was there, and I didn't see what the big deal was. The Hornets fans got all upset though.
Bowen is the dirtiest player in the NBA today.
That being said, CP3 is a hothead. He will throw elbows at you if he's mad and it's really easy to make him mad if you play pestering defense on him. Derek Fisher somehow managed to get under his skin and CP3 threw an elbow that clocked him right in the lip and caused him to start bleeding. Trust me, CP3 is NO angel.
On this particular play you can see CP3 taking a swipe at Bowen when he's on the floor. What Bowen does looks like it's retaliation IMHO, still doesn't make it right though. Especially because it was after the whistle. That being said, nothing should come of this because it's just not a big deal.
I'm just glad Kobe is not "following through" on this jump shots like last season.
Sincerely,
Ginobili's Nose
OK I just rewatched the play again, Bowen delivers a pretty hard love tap to CP3 right before he goes down in an attempt to steal the ball. CP3 takes some swipes at Bowen while going for the ball. Bowen CLEARLY knees him back in retaliation. What CP3 did can be construed as going for the ball, what Bowen did was clearly trying to knee a player after the whistle is blown.
Actually Paul is a POS person in the mold of Jason Terry except he's much more talented. I live in NC so I got to watch him a lot while he played at wake forest and he did pretty much the same stuff he did to Bowen on a regualr basis when opposing teams played him physical. ITs exactly like what Timvp said which is he's a hothead and will get rattled when he goes up against an aggressive defender. The guy is cheap as I remember a game he played against NC.State in which he punched Julius Hodge right in the ala Jason Terry style. Just like JT he denied it but when it came on tape he acknowledged it. After he got suspsended he made up more lies about why he commited the act and stated the reason for the act was due to himbeing angry about State fans chanting they killed his grandpa which was more bs that was debunked. He's an elite PG but I hate that MOFO.
Sounds like he was going for Bowen's balls.
I am not saying Bowen is innocent of anything but this kind of stuff goes on nightly in the NBA. If you can ever get a seat behind one of the baskets, watch what goes on....its crazy. I think its hilarious that the Spur-haters use this to proclaim that the ENTIRE team is dirty based on the actions of one player and that Bruce Bowen is the only player in the entire NBA that does stuff and they do it for the sole reason that they hate the Spurs.
Can we get some ing bathroom spray in here, it constantly smells like . It's so biazarre
Even some people involved with the Spurs admit privately that Bowen crosses the line at times.
It is no coincidence that these "accidents" with Bowen somehow always involve the guy who is going off on the Spurs. He somehow never accidentally kicks or steps under a guy who is sucking that night.
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