If there is a God, the Spurs WILL repeat as champions this season

[GrandeDavid]

I believe there is a God, and I am confident that God would never favor Spurs fans' wishes over Suns fans' wishes or vice versa. Actually, I cannot imagine God caring about the result of a basketball game. And I certainly believe that selfishly asking Him to serve one's own petty, hedonistic desire as proof that He exists probably will warrant but the sound of a cricket as a reply.

[Xylus]

Good thing there is no God.

[wijayas]

God won't let us down............................. if there is one

Amen!

[oboymeetsogirl]

If there is a God, he wouldn't give a damn about a lousy playoff series. Heck, he doesn't give a damn about more serious things like people blowing each other up all around the world. By definition, God isn't stupid and doesn't do these stupid things... we stupid people do these things to ourselves.

And so if the Spurs prevail in this series, it's the work of Pop, Timmy, Manu, and the rest of the team, not God. God takes care of his business from wherever He (She?) is, and the Spurs take care of their business on the basketball court!

[td4mvp21]

Did you used to be http://spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1353 this guy? I remember he started a very similar thread in 2005, except it was "If there is a God, the Spurs WILL win the le this season" or something like that.

[Don Quixote]

Good thing there is no God.

I can certainly see how would might believe that! You would think that once, just once, God would smile upon the Ringless Wonders of Phoenix. I would conclude that either (a) they have offended Him deeply, or (b) He hates them. Or (c) he doesn't care, or (d) doesn't exist.

But if there were no God, that would be a great tragedy. That would be awful news.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Bless the Spurs with brooms..........

[phyzik]

I can certainly see how would might believe that! You would think that once, just once, God would smile upon the Ringless Wonders of Phoenix. I would conclude that either (a) they have offended Him deeply, or (b) He hates them. Or (c) he doesn't care, or (d) doesn't exist.

But if there were no God, that would be a great tragedy. That would be awful news.

just to play devils advocate, why would it be such a great tragedy if God didnt exist? Is it so scary or bad to think that maybe, just maybe, the Human race isnt as inept as the church would have us all believe and that we really are masters of our own destiny?

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

God...........................help us

[ChumpDumper]

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[BiZNicK]

He's trying to convert us... Stop the propoganda!

Separation of Church and Basketball..........."god" is a nerd who chats with teenagers, he doesn't watch sports...

[anakha]

God...........................help us

Paging Supreme_Being...

[Don Quixote]

just to play devils advocate, why would it be such a great tragedy if God didnt exist? Is it so scary or bad to think that maybe, just maybe, the Human race isnt as inept as the church would have us all believe and that we really are masters of our own destiny?

A big question. Certainly if we were to come to the final big grand realization that there is no God (or gods), if that were possible, that would cause rather large ramifications not only for people of the Christian faith, but Jews, Moslems, and practicioners of basically every theistic religion. Indeed, it seems that, no matter our attempts to shake it, humans are hard-wired towards faith. It's in our blood/genes/whatever to believe in a deity or deities. And, whatever problems that religion causes us, it also gives us the potential for great hope. Can you imagine the hopelessness that the nonexistence of God would create in, say, the missionary who's worked his whole life in some backward country? Or the prisoner locked up in a prison cell in China because he was a Christian? I'll narrow it down closer toward Christianity -- the good news of the Gospel (God loves you, has provided for our salvation, will never leave us or forsake us) would be totally illusory and not true. I'm not sure there would be much real meaning in it all.

And it's not just Christians who say that. Read the later works of Sartre, Camus, Nietzche (pre-insanity) -- all influential atheists -- they knew full well that God's nonexistence entailed the lack of any hope beyond this life. It entailed the loss of all REAL meaning. (Now, they tried to suggest that perhaps there are "little meanings" in the details of our lives, but ultimately, on the big stage, there was no "big meaning.")

So that's one argument. It would be a terrible tragedy. We ALL live our lives on the presupposition (whether we admit it or not) that there is meaning to our lives. We all do. And I'm not sure how the atheist accounts for these very real feelings of meaning and significance.

There are other arguments, though.

[Don Quixote]

He's trying to convert us... Stop the propaganda!

Separation of Church and Basketball..........."god" is a nerd who chats with teenagers, he doesn't watch sports...

Well, actually, the separation idea is an attempt to balance the establishment clause with the free-exercise clause of the first amendment. Religiously-informed viewpoints are welcome.

Now, if tonight's game were to become sectarian (say, Episcopal), then that would violate the wall of separation.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

God help us

[ChumpDumper]

I can't believe you don't shut up.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I can't believe you don't shut up.

[Agloco]

How'd you come to know this? I mean, is this a "probably there is no God," "there might be one," or, "the evidence is not convincing". Or is it, "I know absolutely that there is no God"? Even Hume and Nietzsche stopped short of saying that.

And ... cmon ... how can there not be a God when we have beauties like ...

Eva Longoria
Paloma
Scarlett Johanson?
Jessica Alba?
You think these beauties just evolved? No ... they were created ... for our enjoyment.

Amen Brother.......Amen.

[marini martini]

A big question. Certainly if we were to come to the final big grand realization that there is no God (or gods), if that were possible, that would cause rather large ramifications not only for people of the Christian faith, but Jews, Moslems, and practicioners of basically every theistic religion. Indeed, it seems that, no matter our attempts to shake it, humans are hard-wired towards faith. It's in our blood/genes/whatever to believe in a deity or deities. And, whatever problems that religion causes us, it also gives us the potential for great hope. Can you imagine the hopelessness that the nonexistence of God would create in, say, the missionary who's worked his whole life in some backward country? Or the prisoner locked up in a prison cell in China because he was a Christian? I'll narrow it down closer toward Christianity -- the good news of the Gospel (God loves you, has provided for our salvation, will never leave us or forsake us) would be totally illusory and not true. I'm not sure there would be much real meaning in it all.

And it's not just Christians who say that. Read the later works of Sartre, Camus, Nietzche (pre-insanity) -- all influential atheists -- they knew full well that God's nonexistence entailed the lack of any hope beyond this life. It entailed the loss of all REAL meaning. (Now, they tried to suggest that perhaps there are "little meanings" in the details of our lives, but ultimately, on the big stage, there was no "big meaning.")

So that's one argument. It would be a terrible tragedy. We ALL live our lives on the presupposition (whether we admit it or not) that there is meaning to our lives. We all do. And I'm not sure how the atheist accounts for these very real feelings of meaning and significance.

There are other arguments, though.

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