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    Link?

    I remember KEDA asking if people though the Spurs as cons uted at the time would win the championship. I remember a lot of other people, including Kori, saying they probably wouldn't.
    I'll find a link once the search is turned back on. Get ready . . .

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    I think the Spurs will be alright, but there is absolutely nothing about the original post here that cries, "Reason." This is a Spurs fan trying to convince himself that everything is ok.
    Reason and optimism can coexist. You may have to convince yourself that the sun will come up tomorrow when things look bleakest -- even though reason already guarantees that it will. In fact, sometmes pessimism (rather than optimism) is irrational and it takes "convincing" to bring reason to the fore.

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    What part of the post do you have problems with? Please give us your insight since you obviously know championship basketball.

    Thanks
    Know it just as well as you do, unless you're Tim Duncan et all, in which case I'll gladly defer to you.

    Believe it or not, being a fan of a winning team doesn't mean that you've done , or that you know any more about winning championships than a Memphis Grizzlies fan.

    Love the inflated ego, though.

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    people act like we have never lost 4 in a row before. tough schedule tough confrence tough officiating= 4 game skid. non Believers go sign in at the quitters thread

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    They haven't played for 4 quarters in about 8 games now. Of course this was an alarming loss. Especially considering they had about a 23 point lead in the first quarter and all the momentum. They were coming off a 3 game losing streak on the road, played a game back home, this should have been a must win for the team.

    Why is it that the Celtics who comfortably will get the 1st seed in the East, and who were playing without one of their All-Stars in Ray Allen, could show up for this game and play in the 2nd half on the road, but the Spurs couldn't do it at home?
    Way to step up to the plate in these threads.

    I agree. It's okay to be alarmed.

    I feel like Spurs fans.. even some on this board that I know are diehard to the core... are homer and don't even see it. There is no chip on the shoulder .. and it's amazing now that I step back and see on these threads who feels like they have one with the way they talk.. if you know what I mean by that.

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    Not one worry not one bit.

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    The Spurs were in it at the end and they didn't lose due to age, they lost due to not playing for 4 quarters.


    There was nothing alarming about this loss.
    Really, we have lost a LOT of games by not playing 4 quarters. While this team usually does that kind of think in Dec, Jan, and Feb, by March, they have started playing 4 quarters every game... The fact that they haven't cottoned on to the game being 4 quarters long by this point in the season is slightly alarming.

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    Link to where I've ever done that?
    Link to where you scoured through old threads finding for where you were right? Man, that will be sooooo hard.

    Link to where you were wrong? Well, that will actually be hard, because you don't scour for those.

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    Way to step up to the plate in these threads.

    I agree. It's okay to be alarmed.

    I feel like Spurs fans.. even some on this board that I know are diehard to the core... are homer and don't even see it. There is no chip on the shoulder .. and it's amazing now that I step back and see on these threads who feels like they have one with the way they talk.. if you know what I mean by that.
    create a win/win situation for yourself much?

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    Actually, Timvp, I'm curious on your "real" takes on Finley and Horry. Seeing as how Pop truly thinks both these players will be an integral part of the Spurs championship run this year, do you honestly trust and believe that they aren't done.

    I'm sure Finley will eventually snap out of this shooting funk and score 20 some points one of these days and he may have a game or two that's good in the playoffs. But honestly, I think that's a longshot. Especially considering that those other games when his shot isn't falling, Finley just plain hurts the team. He can't box out and get a rebound to save his life, he's not exactly a good ball handler or playmaker, and his defense is absolutely atrocious.

    As for Horry, I've always agreed with you and thought his basketball IQ is off the charts and even if his shot isn't falling, it's invaluable to have in the 4th quarter of games. This season, Horry is making more boneheaded plays than a rookie. His defense is obviously slow and instead of making up for it with a heady, veteran play, all I see is him commit bad foul after bad foul after his man picks him off and leaves him in the dust. He's playing jumpy, sometimes overexcited and overaggressive, and he doesn't seem to compliment Duncan that well down low as in the past.

    I say both players are done, and that's what worries me.

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    Any other season and this kind of play right now would only mildly annoy me but this year with the way the west is, it is just a nightmare that we are playing this badly. Right now the 8 seed has 24 losses we have 23. When you look at how BAD they are playing right now with the rest of the schedule they have it is a scary thought to think that the Spurs may miss the playoffs for the first time in the Duncan era. You just can afford losses like tonight when you are dominating and then fall apart,, not this season. I will always believe as long as #21 draws breath but i would be lying if i said i am not worried.

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    people act like we have never lost 4 in a row before. tough schedule tough confrence tough officiating= 4 game skid. non Believers go sign in at the quitters thread
    Why do so many Spur fans reference previous years?

    This is the present... come on now..

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    They haven't played for 4 quarters in about 8 games now. Of course this was an alarming loss. Especially considering they had about a 23 point lead in the first quarter and all the momentum. They were coming off a 3 game losing streak on the road, played a game back home, this should have been a must win for the team.
    Why was this game a must win game?





    Why is it that the Celtics who comfortably will get the 1st seed in the East, and who were playing without one of their All-Stars in Ray Allen, could show up for this game and play in the 2nd half on the road, but the Spurs couldn't do it at home?
    Because it was a must win game for the Celtics...to prove to themselves they can beat the Spurs.


    It was a much bigger game for the Celts...there's really no such thing as a big regular season game for the Spurs. These mofos have done it all.


    I mean are you saying the Spurs aren't going to make the Post Season?


    To tell you the truth..it's not natural for a defending champion to play better in the regular season than they did the year before, they almost always are more complacent, and the fact that the Spurs haven't been is probably the main reason they lacked a champions confidence in their other repeat campaigns.


    This Spur team is actually preforming like a repeat champion is supposed to perform.





    You know...Willie Mays used to strike out on fastballs in the early innings of games often, he just didn't care, and then in the fourth quarter when they'd tried to get a fastball past him...it usually wound up in somebodies seat. He didn't care about getting first inning hits...he cared about getting fourth quarter hits


    It's just a different mindset once a team has been there and done, and this is the first repeat Spurs team I have seen that actually has that mindset. Probably because it has the most retuning players.



    In short...no, this was not a must win game.

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    create a win/win situation for yourself much?
    Pop that loud ego much?

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    they are asking you during the reg season, you dummy...not in the playoffs...

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    The spurs will be fine. I agree with that.


    You got to admit the Celtics coming back from 22 down with no Ray Allen is impressive. Sam Cassell was a HUGE signing. He is going to be vital in the playoffs for us. Man this team is ing good. They have bigs that are physical and can rebound, they have depth, and they are a great defensive team as well. The Celtics can hang with anyone in a 7 game series.

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    Oh and for the record, I'm not "quitting" on the team. As long as the Spurs have a healthy Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili it's pretty much impossible for any sane fan to think the Spurs don't have a chance.

    However, I will go on record and say that the Spurs are in no way, shape, or form "fine" and they have A LOT of work ahead of them. They're going to need luck, good matchups, and hope for plenty of upsets if they want to repeat this year.

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    Thank you for saying that...this is precisely the type of comment and at ude I can't stand.

    Spurs fans discounting the notion of playing well in the regular season, based on what happened last year. Fine, there have been some spectacular example of this in recent memory.

    But this is not really the norm is it? Thinking of all the great NBA championship teams...Did the Bulls complacently glide thru the regular season? Lakers? Celtics?

    Playing like dominant ass-kicker is never a bad thing IMO.
    Name the last "dominant ass-kicker" team to win a championship. Post-Jordan, every championship team has had a rocky road. Literally, every single one.

    1999 - Spurs sucked to start off the season.
    2000 - The Lakers were a Portland meltdown away from being eliminated.
    2001 - The Lakers were dominant in the playoffs ... but that was their worst regular season showing off all three championship teams.
    2002 - They looked horrible in the second half of the season.
    2003 - Spurs sucked to start the season.
    2004 - The Pistons had long losing streak late in the year.
    2005 - Spurs struggled at this same point in the season.
    2006 - The Heat sucked almost the entire regular season.
    2007 - Spurs sleepwalked through the regular season.

    There hasn't been a dominant "ass-kicking" regular season team to go on a bust through during the playoffs in a long time. The regular season wonders are usually the teams that run out of juice in the playoffs. The championship teams are the ones with experience who peak during the playoffs.

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    It isn't over, pussies.

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    Believe!!

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    Way to step up to the plate in these threads.

    I agree. It's okay to be alarmed.

    I feel like Spurs fans.. even some on this board that I know are diehard to the core... are homer and don't even see it. There is no chip on the shoulder .. and it's amazing now that I step back and see on these threads who feels like they have one with the way they talk.. if you know what I mean by that.
    what is your e-mail address? you sent me some e-mails?

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    On a side note, good god was Elliot a HOMER tonight broadcasting. I mean he usually is somewhat BAD with that but tonight he was cheering for missed FT's from Boston and called Horry's shot good when it left his hand, when it was not even close. He called the game over in the first Qtr and then he said "He almost got so upset with the Spurs he nearly took his headset off", when they were blowing their lead. Seems everyone is feeling the heat of this bad run they are in right now.

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    Know it just as well as you do, unless you're Tim Duncan et all, in which case I'll gladly defer to you.

    Believe it or not, being a fan of a winning team doesn't mean that you've done , or that you know any more about winning championships than a Memphis Grizzlies fan.

    Love the inflated ego, though.
    Inflated ego? I've asked you to point out which parts of the post you have a problem with. I've opened up the floor to you to display your wisdom.

    What more do you want?

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    Why was this game a must win game?
    Let's pretend you asked me. Cool.

    Because maybe, just maybe Manu, Tim and Tony have real feelings. Like, maybe they need a shot of confidence in hard times? You think it was a must win to them? I bet you anything anybody on the Spurs roster, or staff would say it's a must win game.

    To prove to yourself you can beat these guys. (Even without Allen..???..)

    To gain some confidence in a rough stretch? Repeating myself much?

    Come on. This game was a must win to them more than it was to us and reality.

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    they are asking you during the reg season, you dummy...not in the playoffs...
    When was the last time Duncan lost 4 games in a row?
    Care to show me where it says only regular season, asshole?
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