Here's another question; When was the last time the Spurs beat a quality opponent? The Mavs game I don't really count as Dirk got injured and didn't play in the 4th. Beating Houston without Yao Ming isn't too impressive either. For all their 8 game and 11 game winning streaks, the Spurs have gotten their a@@s handed to them by the likes of Detroit, Boston, Utah, Suns, and the Hornets in between those win streaks. And it's not like those games came down to a lucky break here or there either. Spurs have gotten blown out by the best teams in the league this season.
I'm also a little disapointed in how Pop has incorporated Kurt Thomas into the Spurs lineup. His 10-15 foot jumpshot is almost money every time. Spurs should be running more and more pick and rolls with him on the floor to get him that shot. He could be a part of the Spurs offense which they desperately need more of. Suns and DAntoni used Kurt Thomas a lot more effectively than the Spurs have been.
Spurs tonight =
So what what about Pop's plan against the Lakers?
Lakers haven't been playing well of late so the Spurs actually may have a chance against them.
BTW, If the Spurs were in need of another aging "veteran" player chasing a ring, how nice would it have been if they'd gotten Grant Hill? Can't you just imagine him replacing Finley in the starting lineup?
Takes one to know one.
Pop for adjusting the game. When will Pop be able to force opposing team to adjusting their game?
And small ball.
I wish there was a way the Spurs could've landed Korver....or anyone with a $ outside shot.
It was pathetic seeing a ZONE defense of all things bringing the Spurs down to their knees.
Awww man, Korver would have been a GREAT addition. , even Gircheck (sp?) looks good at this point...
Yeah, I thought Giricek (sp?) was a minor desperation move since the Suns missed out on Barry.....but at least Giricek is able to play!
*sigh*
It is my understanding that the sky, is still where it belongs. In the sky. No ladies and spurms, the sky has not fallen and the world has not ended. Granted, it will end soon mind you, but that has to do with the Mayan calendar. Get with the program here. By the time TD retires, that's right, the world will end soon thereafter so, does it really matter ?
Okay, my question here is this ? Did this loss really change anything ? Nope. We're still tied in second, the Suns are still in 6th and the world keeps spinning around. If anyone thinks, for one minute, the Suns...if we meet in the playoffs...are going to beat the Spurs on the road is nutbar bonkers over the top.
Get a grip. I would like home court against LA and Utah. We'll get that against Utah, LA is another story. The Suns aren't on the radar right now. They weren't tonight and they are not in the near future. This game had the intensity of a pre-season game. Haven't seen the fans or the team this disintersted in a game since December..okay maybe March.
Give it a rest. We're fine.
Kurt Thomas hasn't been since hes gotten there.His 10-15 foot jumpshot is almost money every time
His jumper was not on tonight, so no fault there.
BTW, If the Spurs were in need of another aging "veteran" player chasing a ring, how nice would it have been if they'd gotten Grant Hill? Can't you just imagine him replacing Finley in the starting lineup?
Finley goes 4 of 5 and you want him replaced.
The hatred never stops.
Well ya know the Deroit game doesn't count because...
All you do is discount the wins and upplay the losses.
Genius
Spurs have switched roles with the pre-Shaq Suns.
Can beat the crappy teams and teams in the East. Have a tough time sealing the deal against good over 50 teams.
This year, they haven't really shown their A game against the top tier western teams.
They beat Yao-less down-to-earth Houston , Dallas and Orlando...while the rest of the time they've collected streaks thanks to cup-cake teams.
The only thing that assures me is when the Spurs play the great teams, they're right there with them, but seem to lose the game as if they were a regular season of last year. They really looked good the first three quarters.
Even the games against Boston, they could compete. So I don't know if its a tenacity thing or hunger or what.
Deep...
I'd settle for Brent & Horry.I wish there was a way the Spurs could've landed Korver....or anyone with a $ outside shot.
But I really want an honest update of their injuries this time around(not that one issued by Pop which I am not 100% sure is true).
CIA Pop. If we take Tim out, D'Antoni thinks that lineup works for him all the time. Come playoffs, he tries and and gets owned.
.....right?
What's funny is that a lot of you are ranting that the Spurs aren't good enough to win a le, yet also ranting that the Spurs also lost the game only because of stupid coaching decisions.
Also, some of you are making valid points, but then throwing in random things that make no sense at all.
Tony started the second half. Did you mean second quarter?
Good dialogue in this thread. Some good points. I have to agree with Solid D that benching Duncan wasn't as big of a deal as some are making it. The same people who are complaining Pop benched Duncan with three minutes to go in the third are the same people who complained in the Utah game that Duncan wasn't out there to start the fourth. Duncan has to rest at some point in the second half. Resting Duncan when Shaq and Amare are in foul trouble allows Pop to bring Duncan back in when Shaq and Amare return. Otherwise the Suns could have started the fourth quarter with Shaq and Amare versus Oberto and KT.
Pop probably would have left Duncan in there if he was actually abusing Diaw. Duncan was letting Diaw guard him so there wasn't a massive mismatch.
Pop coached poorly but that specific strategy was debatable either way, IMO.
Maybe Pop secretly has a midget fetish.
I agree with timvp that the matchup problem concerning Diaw in the 4th wasn't that Tim was on the bench.
The problem was that Finley was being absolutely ABUSED by Diaw in the post. Oh - and on the perimeter.
And while on offense, Finley had the ball glued to his hands on the perimeter trying to figure out what to do against a zone defense. I'll sayh it again: With Finley and Vaughn in the game together, there is zero movement on offense.
Maybe, but I think the small ball works when Manu, Udoka and Finley were playing well in other games.
If these guys suck like against Suns, the small ball sucks.
Yeah, sorry, second quarter. He left with a little under a minute left in the first if I remember and didn't come back until the under 6 timeout.
Uh, Udoka was guarding Diaw in the post.The problem was that Finley was being absolutely ABUSED by Diaw in the post. Oh - and on the perimeter.
Not the same sets. Finley got posted up 2 out of 3 straight sets, And at least one other time he was out-played on the perimeter.
Udoka looked good on D down low again.
So pick your poison at the 3. bad D or bad O.
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