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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    In 1990 my two year old son died from encephalitis.
    I'm sorry word. My brother lost a child, I've witnessed the grief. It's not something you get over. I can't imagine how hard it is to live with it. My thoughts are with you.

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    In 1990 my two year old son died from encephalitis. We had taken him out trick or treating the night before and he was bitten by a mosquito. The next morning, when we went to wake him up, he was dead. It ultimately caused my wife and I to divorce and it took me many years to get over. I had no one to blame. All I could do was shake my fist at the sky, which I did for many years. And I still do. Just not as much or with the same verocity and anger I had.

    I put all the photos away but keep one on my desk, that I can see right now. And I can now look at it and think of the good memories with him without cursing god and wonder why 'this piece of ' or 'that piece of ' is alive, and my son is dead.

    I could run you through a whole range of head trips. So before you go judging me, remember that bad things happen and people get burned in the 'lottery of life'. I don't need to be schooled by some halfwit about the pain of losing a child. The most bizarre odds that god can lay on a person came to my doorstep. What do I do ? Go on some crazy anti-insect crusade ?
    God took my child. He takes everyone. When it's up, it's up.

    If you think I'm poo-pooing away deaths from accidents you're wrong. I am saying their solution to drunk driving has been less than just or reasonable and that there is a lot of hysteria about it.
    so youre comparing a mosquito bite to melo CHOOSING to drink & then drive?

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    Life has odds. Life has bad breaks. Punishing people excessively for what 'might have happened' or 'could have done' is not only not the way to go, but is anti-american if you shake your head and give it a thought.

    I've read here about what he 'might have done' and 'waiving loaded guns' and such. Let's just stick with what he did do. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't maime anyone, he didn't even dent someones car much less his own.

    People make mistakes. Comparing a dui to some other willful 'crime' like murder or assault is horrendously stupid and deserves to be laughed at and squashed in public discussion.

    Further, I find this new 'nanny state' mentality disgusting and dangerous. I was able, after my sons death, to have other children, and it was the hardest thing I ever did and I lived in fear but ultimately I knew life is risk and a lot of faith is required to carry on in this world.

    Call me crazy call me anyting you like. One of the basic tenants of my life is forgiveness and keeping things in perspective as best I can. My second wife worried to NO END about kidnapping. Any time our children were out playing in the yard or whatever...she just constantly would wring her hands, worried about them being snatched away and I always preached to her about 'odds' and life being the risk that it is. And the reality is, it's not that much risk. Not here. Not in the US or the west but people act like we're living in some war torn state with people starving and too weak to bat a fly from their face.

    It saddens me what has happened to this country. When did we start living in all this FEAR and retribution. I don't get it. I honestly don't.
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    How is driving under the influence a selfish act? DUI is a very common crime, usually committed by people who aren't thinking 100% clearly due to the very same influence they're driving under. I'm no Carmelo fan, but it's not like he got arrested for beating his wife or anything.
    Dude...are you ing kidding me??? DUI is a very serious offense nowadays...not that Melo will suffer much...he'll pay his fine, which will be chump change, and just have a limo drive him around...no worries...

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    Melo = Jason Williams

    *cough*

    A long ass list could be put together on athletes who went 'off the reservation'. Mello ain't there YET. Like most people, you learn as you go brother, you learn as you go. I shivver at the thought of me at his age with that kind of money. Jesus...thank you lord !!
    Last edited by word; 04-14-2008 at 10:23 PM.

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    Couldn't happen to a nicer Thug!

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    Mello = Jason Williams

    *cough*

    A long ass list could be put together on athletes who went 'off the reservation'. Mello ain't there YET. Like most people, you learn as you go brother, you learn as you go. I shivver at the thought of me at his age with that kind of money. Jesus...thank you lord !!
    I ing hate you already and I'm not going to argue with you about the morality of DUI's. But I will say this- Melo isn't speld wif too L's.

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    'The morality of DUIs'



    Go live some life, kiddo, after you get out of your black and white world then get back to me in 20, if I'm still here.

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    'The morality of DUIs'



    Go live some life, kiddo, after you get out of your black and white world then get back to me in 20, if I'm still here.
    Hopefully some drunk driver will have killed you or someone you love by then.

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    Your hopes have nothing to do with anything in my life. I hope you live a happy life filled with no sorrow or pain. If you get that, you'll be the first. I'm on your side, whether you believe it or not.

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    Hopefully some drunk driver will have killed you or someone you love by then.
    I might have made some obtuse, perhaps not-very-well-thought-out, comments in this thread, but why is no one giving this ballijuana guy for saying things like this?

    Ban this guy already.

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    Hopefully some drunk driver will have killed you or someone you love by then.
    I know your pissed at what he said, and I think you have every right to be angry but you shouldn't say stuff like that. Your way better than that. Relax.

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    As for the topic at hand, after giving it some more thought I now understand what you guys mean when you call it a "selfish act," when at first I didn't really get it. I wasn't trying to justify Melo's actions, or excuse him for doing it, but I think some of the reactions to this particular crime are a little out of hand. Ballijuana sounds like he's going to commit homicide if someone disagrees with him about the degree of importance of this crime.

    I think nowadays, people are too quick to demonize someone who's committed a crime, when just about everyone has skeletons either in their closet, or out on their lawn for everyone to see. Carmelo might have committed a selfish act, but he didn't hurt anyone, he didn't commit an act of violence, and he hasn't even been proven guilty yet. Don't skewer the guy so soon.

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    Obviously I don't want the guy or his loved ones dead. Just a very bad way of saying I hope he gets a new perspective on the issue. Truly, I'm sorry word. It was a bad thing to say. Still, I hate your position.

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    Obviously I don't want the guy or his loved ones dead. Just a very bad way of saying I hope he gets a new perspective on the issue. Truly, I'm sorry word. It was a bad thing to say. Still, I hate your position.
    As for the topic at hand, after giving it some more thought I now understand what you guys mean when you call it a "selfish act," when at first I didn't really get it. I wasn't trying to justify Melo's actions, or excuse him for doing it, but I think some of the reactions to this particular crime are a little out of hand.
    What nice resolution.

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    He's a Hawks fan. Which means he's probably a Falcons fan which means he's probably a Braves fan...

    Tough down there lately if you're a sports fan.

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    He's a Hawks fan. Which means he's probably a Falcons fan which means he's probably a Braves fan...

    Tough down there lately if you're a sports fan.
    Nope. Just liked Joe Johnson before he went there and the team stuck.

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    Obviously I don't want the guy or his loved ones dead. Just a very bad way of saying I hope he gets a new perspective on the issue. Truly, I'm sorry word. It was a bad thing to say. Still, I hate your position.
    Apology accepted but not necessary. I've been on forums a long time here and there, even back to the newsgroups days before the WWW and have said a lot of things I didn't really mean in literal terms.

    I'm pretty sure you don't wish death upon me or my loved ones.

    I think I've covered my position reasonably well. You may not agree but I did state WHY I think the way I do. You can't fault me for that. That's more than you'll get from a lot of people.

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    Cool enough. I guess we'll just agree to disagree then.

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    Poor guy

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    how bout you read this article first and then see how "innocent" his actions were..........

    http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/...109x1200003383

    that is ABSURD to read/hear/think of how drunk he was....AND behind the wheel. If thats not a selfish, ignorant, selfless act, then I dont know what is.

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