Official Seedings Thread

[TampaDude]

NBA.com

http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html

TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Head-to-head
(2) Conference Record
(3) vs. Teams ultimately at-or-over .500
(4) Head-to-Head ulative point differential
(5) vCoin toss (tied teams listed alphabetically above)
x-Clinched Playoff Berth | o-Eliminated from Playoffs contention | e-Clinched Eastern Conference | w-Clinched Western Conference
nw-Clinched Northwest Division | p-Clinched Pacific Conference | sw-Clinched Southwest Division | a-Clinched Atlantic Division
c-Clinched Central Conference | se-Clinched Southeast Conference
*-Games remaining vs.Teams Over/Under .500

Playoff Tie-Break Procedures

Ties for playoff positions (including division winners) will be broken utilizing the criteria set forth in subparagraph a. below (in the case of ties involving two teams) and subparagraph b. below (in the case of ties involving more than two teams), and the guidelines set forth in subparagraph c. below.

a. Two Teams b. More Than Two Teams Tied
(1) Better winning percentage in games against each other. (1) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.
(2) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if tied teams are in same division). (2) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in the same division).
(3) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. (3) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
(4) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). (4) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
(5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). (5) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all opponents (“point differential”).
(6) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all opponents (“point differential”).

c. Guidelines For Applying Tie-Break Criteria.
The following guidelines shall be used when applying the above criteria to break ties for playoff positions:

(1) (a) Since the three division winners receive the first three playoff positions, ties to determine the division winners must be broken before any other ties.
(b) When a tie must be broken to determine a division winner, the results of the tie-break shall be used to determine only the division winner and its playoff position, not any other playoff position(s).

(2) If a tie involves more than two teams, the tie-break criteria in subparagraph b. shall be applied in the order set forth therein until the first to occur of the following:
(a) Each of the tied teams has a different winning percentage or point differential under the applicable tiebreak criterion (a “complete” breaking of the tie). In this cir stance, the team with the best winning percentage or point differential under the criterion will be awarded the best playoff position, the team with the next-best winning percentage or point differential will be awarded the next-best playoff position, and so on, and no further application of the tie-break criteria will be required.
(b) One or more (but not all) of the tied teams has a different winning percentage or point differential under the applicable tie-break criterion (a “partial” breaking of the tie). In this cir stance: (x) any team(s) that performed better under the applicable criterion than any other team(s) will be awarded a higher playoff position than such other team(s); and (y) teams that had equivalent performance under the applicable criterion will remain tied, and such remaining tie(s) will be broken by applying, from the beginning, the criteria in subparagraph a.(1)-(6) above (for any remaining tie involving only two teams) or subparagraph b.(1)-(5) above (for any remaining tie involving more than two teams) and the guidelines set forth in this subparagraph c.

(3) If application of the criteria in subparagraph a. or b. does not result in the breaking of a tie, the playoff positions of the tied teams will be determined by a random drawing.

[milkyway21]

Uh...correct me if I'm wrong, but if we lose to the Jazz on Wednesday, we drop to #4 and get the Rockets, while the Jazz move up to #3 and get the Suns. Works for me!

is that true?

[Budkin]

Ok SI.com has it right...

Link

The victory, coupled with Houston's loss to Utah, put the Spurs in position to clinch third place in the conference for a second straight season. A year ago, they defeated Cleveland in the NBA finals.

[timvp]

All I freaking want to know is where the SPurs end up in a 4 way tie.

Sixth.

Why does Houston finish 4th when we have the tie breaker over them?

Different tiebreaker rules apply.

[duncan228]

I'll see your and raise you .

It's unreal this year.

[Warlord23]

Are you sure? This is yet another different take on this.

All I freaking want to know is where the SPurs end up in a 4 way tie. Why does Houston finish 4th when we have the tie breaker over them?

Yeah I'm sure. 4-way tie = we finish #6 and face Utah without home-court

[Princess Pimp]

I am almost not looking forward to the playoffs the way we are playing, and with these matchups.

If you play the Jazz on the road, at least make it an interesting series and go the long way (7 Games) just like the Rockets did last yaer.

[timvp]

A horrible scenario would be Spurs lose and Rockets lose ... which would then make it Utah vs. Rockets and Spurs vs. Suns with Suns having HCA.

[Warlord23]

Who would have thought that the Jazz, derided all season long for playing in the weakest division in the West and underperforming on the road, would own the tiebreakers against the Spurs, Suns and Rockets, no matter whether 2, 3 or 4 teams finish tied (with the Jazz being among those teams, of course)

[Allanon]

The matchups are the hard part, tiebreakers are easy.

Spurs/Houston would qualify for "Division record" tiebreaker so Spurs have tiebreaker

Suns own the tiebreaker over the Spurs

Spurs/Jazz tiebreaker is the complicated one and comes down to these last 2 games and possibly goes into the "Record against Western Playoff teams". Both are only 1 game apart in the Conference record so that tiebreaker can swing either way.

[timvp]

If you play the Jazz on the road, at least make it an instersiting series and go the long way (7 Games) just like the Rockets did last yaer.

Rocket Fan showing his true colors.

[BonnerDynasty]

If the Utah game comes down to us losing HCA then we MUST play Manu. Pop has said he won't (healthy 3rd better than non-healthy first blah blah blah) but we do not want to lose HCA to the Jazz imo. And losing HCA to the Suns after all this work? NOOOOOOOOOO

Maybe Spurs playing Suns is just destiny. Both teams have blown numerous opportunities for it not to happen. Rockets trying their best TO make it happen.

[TampaDude]

Yeah I'm sure. 4-way tie = we finish #6 and face Utah without home-court

it, then...we gotta beat the Jazz...I don't care if we have to face the Suns...and maybe they won't end up in 6th place, anyway...

[timvp]

Spurs vs. Jazz is a must, must, MUST win game. It's a playoff game. The Spurs lose that game and I'd say their season is over. If the Spurs win, I like their chances to regroup enough to beat the Suns.

Manu has to play. No matter his condition.

[greens]

If the Utah game comes down to us losing HCA then we MUST play Manu. Pop has said he won't (healthy 3rd better than non-healthy first blah blah blah) but we do not want to lose HCA to the Jazz imo. And losing HCA to the Suns after all this work? NOOOOOOOOOO

Maybe Spurs playing Suns is just destiny. Both teams have blown numerous opportunities for it not to happen. Rockets trying their best TO make it happen.

Well, who knows what Pop will do. But I think he HAS to play Manu...it's a game for home court advantage, the Spurs need it! And Manu had already missed 3 games...why miss four? Plus, he needs to work of the rust before the playoffs.

[duncan228]

Manu has to play. No matter his condition.

From everything that's been let out, he's okay. That's a good thing. I would hope we'll see him.

[DAF86]

Spurs vs. Jazz is a must, must, MUST win game. It's a playoff game. The Spurs lose that game and I'd say their season is over. If the Spurs win, I like their chances to regroup enough to beat the Suns.

Manu has to play. No matter his condition.

Don't put too much hope into it 'cause we're getting this game live here in Argentina so the spurs would probably lose by 20

[greens]

From everything that's been let out, he's okay. That's a good thing. I would hope we'll see him.

Yes, all the articles indicate that Manu is fine...but Pop was just being extra careful...I also did read that Manu asked him to let him play vs the Lakers, then now vs Sacramento...

So he needs to let him play vs Utah.

[timvp]

What sucks is that if the Warriors would have hung on to beat the Suns, the Spurs could have tanked the game against the Jazz to setup Spurs vs. Rockets with the Spurs having homecourt in the 4 vs. 5 matchup. That would have been niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.



A must lose game followed by HCA versus the Rockets. Why did the Warriors have to choke?

[TampaDude]

Manu will play on Wednesday...at least some minutes...

[greens]

Manu will play on Wednesday...at least some minutes...

Did you hear something new?

[ploto]

Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

Here is the proof given above. All you need to know for multiple tied teams.

[TampaDude]

What sucks is that if the Warriors would have hung on to beat the Suns, the Spurs could have tanked the game against the Jazz to setup Spurs vs. Rockets with the Spurs having homecourt in the 4 vs. 5 matchup. That would have been niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.



A must lose game followed by HCA versus the Rockets. Why did the Warriors have to choke?

Uh...cuz they're the Warriors...

[TampaDude]

Did you hear something new?

Just my prediction...

[greens]

Just my prediction...

Oh, I was hoping you'd have an article or something...

Maybe we'll know something by tomorrow...