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Stupid thread. I didn't even read it. Just by the le alone it's pretty damn re ed. Let's see Parker be the focal point of a team both offensively and defensively. Let's see him get the double and triple teams Kobe does. Let's see his monkey ass carry a team all by his lonesome self. Take him off the Spurs his rank as a pg automatically drops. He's the perfect pg for the Spurs but stfu really. Let's see hi do what he does without Duncan and Ginobili.
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Laker fans....no point of even arguing the merits of this thread. There's no point and I would just let it die as it ranks up there with the best troll threads I've read.
You made your entire point worthless. The system was designed to work with Tony's skillset. That's what is supposed to be done, play to your players strengths and hide their weakness.
Yes, those other teams (I think the suns would actually be better with Parker than Nash since he fits in with their uptempo philosophy), but plug those guys in with the Spurs in their current system and the Spurs would be worse as well. Of course the Spurs could change their system more easily than most teams because of coaching and players experienced in multiple systems, but that's not the point.
It's a stupid argument. For what the Spurs want to do currently, Parker is the best PG to have. No one even comes close to giving what Parker does. He is a unique talent. CP3 and Deron are much better classical PGs, but they would bomb trying to do what Parker does, and Parker would be mediocre at best trying to do what they do.
Of course--there is at least one thing that Tony has which Kobe doesn't...
They both have overrated annoying ugly esOf course--there is at least one thing that Tony has which Kobe doesn't...
But you agree they are overrated, ugly, and annoying
Kobe has a better 3 pointer. Tony rarely shoots 3's to even be more specific. That's the main thing.
Several more inches, a decent FT %, A good 3pt Shot, Clutchness, more skills, and at ude issues.
Vd?
That's cold.
What does Kobe have that TP doesn't? Lets see..
Better defense, better shooting, more range on said shot, more scoring moves, equal finishing at the rim ability, size and jumping ability, rebounding, more clutch, ability to take over games, in general just a much better basketball player.(best on the planet) I actually like Tony don't make troll threads and give people reason to dislike him.
Kobe vs Parker? You have gotta be kidding me. This is so ridiculous I'm not even going to answer the question, instead I pose several other questions.
1) If you were to start a franchise today who would you rather have, Kobe or Parker?
2) If you had a crappy team but could add 1 good player, would you take Kobe or Parker?
3) If the game was on the line, who would you rather have taking the final shot?
4) Final 30 seconds and you're up with the other team fouling you, who would you want taking the foul shots?
5) If you needed 3 points, who would you want getting those 3 points for you?
6) If you needed to lock down the other team's best player, who would you want as the defender?
7) If Kobe and Parker were to play 1 on 1, who would win? Would it even be close?
8) Would Parker have a chance at stopping Kobe?
9) Would Kobe have a chance at stopping Parker?
Kobe has no weaknesses on the court. Tony Parker's a stellar player as a 2nd or 3rd option...but he can never be THE man on a team.
Kobe is a top 1 player, Tony's top 20.
Kobe vs Duncan and you have a valid question.
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Parker. He's younger, he's cheaper, he's less cancerous, he's less selfish, he's less likely to demand to be traded, he's less likely to demand someone else be traded, he's less likely to attempt to get his coach fired... and he plays the first or second most difficult position to master on the court.
I take Parker and I don't even think twice about it. Building franchises around 30 year olds is generally a dumbass idea.
Parker for the reasons mentioned above...with a special focus on the fact that Kobe whines and demands to be traded if he feels he's on a crappy team.2) If you had a crappy team but could add 1 good player, would you take Kobe or Parker?
Parker...3) If the game was on the line, who would you rather have taking the final shot?
Kobe4) Final 30 seconds and you're up with the other team fouling you, who would you want taking the foul shots?
Eh...maybe Kobe.5) If you needed 3 points, who would you want getting those 3 points for you?
Depends on who their best player was..and you've evidentally never watched Kobe Bryant try to defend Tony Parker or you wouldn't say he locks down . I'd tell you to watch the matchup of Kobe defending Parker again if we meet in the postseason this year, but I doubt Phil will ever attempt that again...in fact I imagine he'll probably try to double team Parker as he did in 04.6) If you needed to lock down the other team's best player, who would you want as the defender?
Parker is a much higher PCT shooter than Kobe.7) If Kobe and Parker were to play 1 on 1, who would win? Would it even be close?
Except for his decision making...Kobe has no weaknesses on the court.
I see....and what exactly has Kobe done as the man?
Tony Parker's a stellar player as a 2nd or 3rd option...but he can never be THE man on a team.
Miss the playoffs?
Blow up his team?
Win the Heat a championship?
Has he even gotten his team out of the first round?
Oh wait...he didn't, and your excuse is that he didn't have Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili...which doesn't sound like he's top 1 anything.
Bull ...the best player in the NBA wouldn't get his ass kicked in the first round 2 years in a row and miss the playoffs another.Kobe is a top 1 player, Tony's top 20.
Kobe vs Duncan and you have a valid question.
Uh...with all due respect, Kobe's not fit to carry Duncan's jock.
^^ That's all I needed to know, enjoy the Haterade
Kori needs to ban "twhottt" for being a Spurs troll.
Seriously whott that's some Homer thinking right there. Tony's great but Kobe is much better.
Whott gets off to this kind of , don't lend him your hand to jack off with.
When he gets in the mood to troll he's like Spursdynasty but more believable.
(I think everyone knows Kobe is a top 3 player in the league and Tony isn't.)
If the man wants to suck Tony off, as long as Eva ain't mad why should anyone else?
Seriously Whott needs to be banned for being a Spurs troll on a Spurs messageboard. This that spews out of his mouth is ridiculous.
And whomever said the Spurs would be worse off with CP3 or Williams in place of Parker, I don't buy that. Spurs would be just as good if not better.
So you guys are saying if you were building a team from scratch, or you have a crappy team and can add one good player to it...
You'd take Kobe?
If so you're pretty ing stupid, because only an idiot would think Kobe wouldn't demand a trade instantly.
Not only do you guys evidentally not follow basketball...you don't even follow Kobe interviews in the summer.
whottt has actually held his own against Laker Fan even though he's defending a near impossible position. Speaking of Laker Fan, how come there were only like two on SpursTalk over the last three years? All of a sudden, Laker Fan is back in full force.
Wonder why
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