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    Whottt, did you not see the parallel to the gays in the military policy?

    Do you not see the differences between serving in the US military and being employed as a private citizen?

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    it was a joke, whottt....go take a smoke break.

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    Is it odd that I, known as a liberal, do not have a problem with this?

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    Do you not see the differences between serving in the US military and being employed as a private citizen?
    IT WAS A JOKE WHOTTT!!!

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    As long as they offer reimbursment for programs to stop smoking, I dont think this is horrible. USAA did this when they stopped all on-campus smoking.

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    Is it odd that I, known as a liberal, do not have a problem with this?
    Not really...since most anti-smoking legislation is championed by the left.

    Alas, there's nothing odd about liberals being contradictory...

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    Oh please. Conservatives are just as contradictory as anyone else.

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    Not really...since most anti-smoking legislation is championed by the left.

    Alas, there's nothing odd about liberals being contradictory...

    And this is about Business' rights, which is clearly on the conservative agenda.

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    In America liberalism has married socialism..

    The only individual rights most liberals are interested in preserving is the right to get cornholed by another man in your bedroom.(which is why I can only chuckle when I see them supporting this precedent...talk about a lack of foresight) and to make sure murderers live longer and have more rights than the people they murder.

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    And this is about Business' rights, which is clearly on the conservative agenda.
    You are kidding right?

    Who do you think owns the cigarette companies?

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    the tobacco is arbitrary in this case. It is about business' ability to employ at will.

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    Agree 100%, the tobacco is arbitrary in this case. But you miss my point...this should be an issue that the left is rallying against...however since the left is largely anti-smoking and in favor of regulating the private lives of individuals(except in the cases I noted above)...they are riding a proud shotgun on this particular precedent setting issue.

    Like I said earlier...the contradiction doesn't surprise me...and no doubt the left will be the one crying the loudest about this once is starts being used against them in issues of major importance to their core base. Just don't cry about it then.

    And at least Dan can say he was on the right side of this one from the beginning.

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    To be honest with you, I can see your point. I mean I am a smoker and know I shouldnt be, but am too lazy to quit, that is why this particular case doesnt really bother me. But if I was to be persuaded to one side of the fence, you make an excellent case, because it does set a dangerous precedent.

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    I just wish they'd outlaw freaking cigarettes...Problem solved. Smokers are already being ostracized and treated as if criminals...so once they have started down that path they might as well make them illegal...I mean since they are a great evil and all. It beats people profiting off the addiction, which is really all they are doing from a governmental perspective.

    But I don't blame the left for that...I am sure they would outlaw them if they had the choice...

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