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    Refs were fine and that's what make me more worried

    We may see a Salvatore or Rush in game 2 and than we're ed

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    The game was tied when Kobe pushed-off on Bowen, then shouldered into him. That one no-call was a potential four point swing. Lakers won by four...

    ...and that wasn't the only bad/no call at the end.

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    Refs were fine and that's what make me more worried

    We may see a Salvatore or Rush in game 2 and than we're ed
    Yes, I gotta agree, if you think the Spurs got jobbed in this game, you haven't seen anything yet.
    Last edited by Allanon; 05-22-2008 at 12:13 AM.

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    The Spurs did blow a big lead, but they were still ahead by 5 when the ref's took over. Spurs still win if the last 3 minutes are called evenly.

    And that isn't whining or making excuses. That's just the truth. If the rest of you want to get on your moral high-horse and say the ref's don't decide games, well that's just sanctimonious bull . The Spurs still should not have blown a 20 point lead, but they would have been ahead at the end if the calls were fair in the last three minutes.

    Manu and Fin went a combined 3-18 from the floor. And a lot of those were open looks. If those two guys shoot just 33% tonight, we walk out with a win.

    In the last 18 minutes of the game, Parker and Manu both made some really bad decisions, and threw away possessions. Once again, the refs didn't do that... the Spurs did. Seriously, I would give anything to know that the rest of the games would be called as evenly as this one.

    The reason I say that is because I think some effort went into making sure the game was called fairly. Give credit where it is due, as well as the blame.

    Right now, the Lakers know they dodged a bullet, the way Manu and Finley shot the ball. Kobe shot lights-out in the second half, but the Lakers can see that they don't have an answer for Duncan. We don't need anything different from the refs to go home with a split. All we need is for Manu to be up for Game 2.

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    The Bowen play could have been called a blocking foul, honestly.

    But, Kobe traveled when Bowen used the classic Karl Malone move, but they just let him call timeout.
    Kobe traveled but on the replay, you can see Bowen pulled Kobe down by the jersey. Nice sneaky move by the Bruce

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    Manu and Fin went a combined 3-18 from the floor. And a lot of those were open looks. If those two guys shoot just 33% tonight, we walk out with a win.

    In the last 18 minutes of the game, Parker and Manu both made some really bad decisions, and threw away possessions. Once again, the refs didn't do that... the Spurs did. Seriously, I would give anything to know that the rest of the games would be called as evenly as this one.

    The reason I say that is because I think some effort went into making sure the game was called fairly. Give credit where it is due, as well as the blame.

    Right now, the Lakers know they dodged a bullet, the way Manu and Finley shot the ball. Kobe shot lights-out in the second half, but the Lakers can see that they don't have an answer for Duncan. We don't need anything different from the refs to go home with a split. All we need is for Manu to be up for Game 2.
    I thought the game was fairly called until the last few minutes. But those bad calls / no calls at the end decided the game at that point, regardless of how big a lead the Spurs blew.

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    I don't give a about the refs..

    my brother was angry with the call vs. Duncan and some of the other calls down the stretch, but I could care less..TWENTY POINT LEAD..I wouldn't give a if they blew a 100 calls down the stretch in LA's favor..you don't blow a 20 point lead, that's ALL on the team..just an embarrassing loss..

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    I don't give a about the refs..

    my brother was angry with the call vs. Duncan and some of the other calls down the stretch, but I could care less..TWENTY POINT LEAD..I wouldn't give a if they blew a 100 calls down the stretch in LA's favor..you don't blow a 20 point lead, that's ALL on the team..just an embarrassing loss..
    Then why are you posting on the Official Ref Discussion Thread?

    They shouldn't have blown a 20 point lead, but they still would have won with fair calls down the stretch.

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    I meant I don't give a about how the refs called the game..too much complaining..

    you don't know that the game would have turned out differently..you don't know that the Spurs would have scored if they called the Gasol hack on Duncan..the Spurs lost because there was a chokejob..

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    I meant I don't give a about how the refs called the game..too much complaining..

    you don't know that the game would have turned out differently..you don't know that the Spurs would have scored if they called the Gasol hack on Duncan..the Spurs lost because there was a chokejob..
    Lakers won by four.

    The no-call on Kobe was 2 points for the Lakers and -2 free throws for the Spurs.

    The no-call on Gasol was -2 free throws for the Spurs and possession for the Lakers

    Those 6 point alone would have won the game.

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    Refs blew a couple calls late but that didn't decide the game one bit.
    that's true

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    Can't blame the refs for this one....

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    you guys should be the last team to blame the refs....you wanna kno why? just ask the suns fans

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    don't get all convenient and forget the two non-calls in the sp*rs favor down the stretch: manu's hip check and tdunc's over the back for the put in.

    both fouls, neither called.

    hey, your team choked away yet another game to the lakers. deal with it.

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    and bowen's cheap shot on sasha.

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    i could go on.

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    This isn't the refs fault. Any loss where you led by 20 points can't be blamed on anybody but yourself.
    sure it's not... Gasol hacking Duncan and getting the ball back... then Manu getting fouled on the last play and nothing... sure.. we lost this game ourselves... and Pop should have some of the blame for benching Bowen when he got his 3rd foul and they started their run...

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    Damn, every time ya'll lose ya'll are blaming the ref. Ya'll blamed the refs on 20 point losses to the Hornets, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. (This is only to those Spurs fans that do blame the refs, many of you have not).

    What's funny is the call between Gasol and Duncan at the end actually HELPED the Spurs. Right after giving the Lakers the ball, they gave it right back to the Spurs, and Duncan tipped it in to tie the game. Had they called a foul on Gasol, ya'll would have been counting on Duncan free throws to tie instead. Good luck with that.

    And Bowen is lucky that he did not get called for fouling Kobe on that shot. There is NO WAY IN either team is going to get an offensive foul on a play like that with the game on the line. Regardless of the fact that Kobe hit bruce in the chest with his shoulder, and not his arm, and Bowen went flying like a grenade went off.

    The Spurs had about 50 shots that could've won that game for them. 49 probably taken by Manu. They can only blame themselves, and make up for it next game.

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    So could I...

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    Wow...Spurs fans starting to sound like Suns fans complaining about the ref's...

    Seriously though, you thought last night was bad, try getting your heart ripped out in Game 5 of the NBA Finals by Bennet Salvatore

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    Regardless of the fact that Kobe hit bruce in the chest with his shoulder, and not his arm, and Bowen went flying like a grenade went off.
    Kobe hit Bruce with his arm first and then followed it with a shoulder. The arm can be questionable at times, but when you lower a shoulder, that's automatic.

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    Wow...Spurs fans starting to sound like Suns fans complaining about the ref's...

    Seriously though, you thought last night was bad, try getting your heart ripped out in Game 5 of the NBA Finals by Bennet Salvatore
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    Kobe hit Bruce with his arm first and then followed it with a shoulder. The arm can be questionable at times, but when you lower a shoulder, that's automatic.


    elbowing sasha to the floor is also automatic but nothing was called for an 88% ft shooter

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    If Lakers didnt get the rebound at the end, this probably would've been a factor also... if you think ALL the last 2 minute calls didnt go your way...


    Odom made Manu fall?
    Horry tackled Odom, Odom fell on Manu... splat.



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    Odom had already hit Manu, and was standing on Manu's his foot when Horry got there.

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