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    CDR is listed at 6'7", 200 lbs, although he has supposedly bulked up a bit. Manu is listed at 6'6", 205 lbs. So is Manu too skinny?

    Would you call Manu a freakish athlete, or an incredible pure shooter? Nope. But he has always had a knack for putting the ball in the hole. Not saying that CDR will ever be the player that Manu is. But there are some similarities. I don't think you would understand Manu's game if you only saw him in a workout. If you watched CDR in a game, you would understand his value better.

    He looks awkward on the court, and people describe his game as "unorthodox". And I think that makes some people discount what he does, like "it's just luck when a shot like that goes in." But when a guy keeps doing it game after game, it's not luck. The numbers don't lie.

    The other thing that I think is important is that he has improved every year. His numbers got better, but so did his decision making. And the little stuff. They say that last year he went to the right 61% of the time when driving to the basket. This year he evened it out to 49%. That isn't coincidence. He worked on it because he understood that gave defenders an edge. It's hard to overcome a natural tendency like that - just ask Manu.

    There is no doubt that he's never faced NBA compe ion. I just think he is one of those guys who finds a way. And maybe his unorthodox style will even help him.
    Okay, I get the comparison and understand where you're coming from. He was the "Manu" for college, but I still have doubt as to whether he can have similar impact or be as effective in the NBA. I guess time will tell.

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    Well, he did shoot a more than respectable 41% from 3, can't make any of those from closer than 20 feet.
    I was referring to sample size.

    Tony Parker also hit 3's at better than a 40% clip two years ago, but I don't think he's that consistent of a 3pt shooter if he doubles the attempts.

    Same concept.

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    Okay, I get the comparison and understand where you're coming from. He was the "Manu" for college, but I still have doubt as to whether he can have similar impact or be as effective in the NBA. I guess time will tell.
    Heh. If any of us knew that, we'd be on the payroll. Or they would be on our payroll. Your point is 100% valid.

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    Either way, I'm not bashing this guy or saying I'd be disappointed if the Spurs drafted him. I just wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a marginal NBA player.

    Disagree if you want, that's what forums are for. If he ends up being a stud (hopefully for the Spurs if that's the case) then I'll happily eat crow.

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    If he can develop a consistent jump shot then he'll be fine.

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    I was referring to sample size.

    Tony Parker also hit 3's at better than a 40% clip two years ago, but I don't think he's that consistent of a 3pt shooter if he doubles the attempts.

    Same concept.
    CDR averaged 3 attempts out there per game (120 on the season). that's not that small a sample

    that's more than Derrick Rose, Michael Beasley, Russell Westbrook, Joe Alexander.

    it's only half a shot less per game than Rush or Chalmers.

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    CDR averaged 3 attempts out there per game (120 on the season). that's not that small a sample

    that's more than Derrick Rose, Michael Beasley, Russell Westbrook, Joe Alexander.

    it's only half a shot less per game than Rush or Chalmers.
    Thanks for the info...won't argue that. Didn't look at the numbers, just read the scouting reports.

    Either way, I've said my piece on it.

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    Either way, I'm not bashing this guy or saying I'd be disappointed if the Spurs drafted him. I just wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a marginal NBA player.
    I wouldn't be surprised if anyone the Spurs draft at 26 ends up being marginal (or worse).

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    I think this year they actually pull someone halfways decent. Granted, it's a small sample, but the last two low 1st round picks the Spurs have taken and brought in the next season are still in the league, and one's an All-Star.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if anyone the Spurs draft at 26 ends up being marginal (or worse.)
    Good point, though it's an awfully pessimistic view at this point. Wait until we draft Jawai, then let the pessimism sink in.

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    Wait until we draft Jawai, then let the pessimism sink in.

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    Good point, though it's an awfully pessimistic view at this point. Wait until we draft Jawai, then let the pessimism sink in.
    Remember when Pop told us Cory Alexander was just like Tim Hardaway?

    Yeah, it'd be like that.

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    This page has an ESPN video breakdown of CDR: http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...and=expn?dfsdf

    This page has a link to a video interview with CDR, after a T-Wolves workout:
    http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news...ts_080617.html

    This one is after a Golden State workout:
    http://www.hoopsfantasy.com/chris-do...iew-nba-draft/
    Last edited by GSH; 06-18-2008 at 12:17 PM.

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    Thanks for the info...won't argue that. Didn't look at the numbers, just read the scouting reports.

    Either way, I've said my piece on it.
    I hear you. Whenever these services scout a player that I have watched quite a bit of (i.e. Beasley, Walker, Rush, Chalmers) - I find them to be way off.

    Makes me real curious where they get there info.

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    Remember when Pop told us Cory Alexander was just like Tim Hardaway?

    Yeah, it'd be like that.
    If Cory Alexander had ever grown a brain and listened to Pop, he could've been a pretty darn good point maybe.

    I think CDR is a money pick and if the Spurs take him, I think he goes into the starting 5 pretty soon into the season.

    Draft him, hopefully a decent point guard, then have fun with the MLE and LLE.

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    here's an idea not just for CDR but for any player the Spurs like but fear might be slightly out of reach.

    Considering the financial hardships that the Seattle ownership group is going to go through with relocation no matter what, Seattle might be willing to swap the 24 for the 26 with the only incentive being cash considerations.

    Moving up two spots could make a big difference in this draft and could be the difference in having a shot at CDR, Lee, Rush, Batum, Walker et al on the board and not having anyone there except Roy Hibbert.

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    If Cory Alexander had ever grown a brain and listened to Pop, he could've been a pretty darn good point maybe.

    I think CDR is a money pick and if the Spurs take him, I think he goes into the starting 5 pretty soon into the season.

    Draft him, hopefully a decent point guard, then have fun with the MLE and LLE.
    corey was never the same player after breaking his leg his junior year.

    that guy was the most explosive player in an ACC that included Grant Hill, Jerry Stackhouse, Joe Smith, et al.

    not that he would have made it otherwise, but it certainly didn't help him.

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    I thought he had broken his feet?

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    I remember it being his ankle.

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    I rather have a backup point guard. This guy is first class though, I hope he does well.

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    I thought he had broken his feet?
    it was his foot.

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    The most impressive thing about CDR is his ability to put the ball in the basket. He’s shot over .500 all 3 seasons he’s played college ball. FG Pct. has long been an important stat in evaluating prospects. It’s a sign of how easily a player scores. For SGs, the pass/fail level in FG pct. has been around .425. A player has to be above that number to be considered a serious prospect. The best ones have been closer to .500 though.

    ....

    Any college SG who scores as often and efficiently as Douglas-Roberts has to be considered a strong prospect. As a junior he started to hit the 3-pointer effectively for the first time, drilling it at a .413 rate. The non-scoring numbers could only be called adequate at best, but they’re good enough. The A/TO is low, but it’s not like he’s TO-prone. He actually has a comparatively low number of TOs. He just doesn’t get a lot of assists and that could have as much to do with the Memphis offense as anything. The numbers say Chris Douglas-Roberts should have a solid career. His strength will be scoring and he definitely has the potential to become a perennial 20+ PPG guy. The defense and passing parts of his game look like they need some work, though he’s good enough that he won’t be overmatched.

    http://hoopsanalyst.com/0708ew15.htm
    I'm starting to like CDR more and more. But I think with Budinger pulling out, that really hurt the chances of CDR falling to 26. I see him going in the 19-23 range to a team who otherwise probably would have taken Budinger.

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    I'm starting to like CDR more and more. But I think with Budinger pulling out, that really hurt the chances of CDR falling to 26. I see him going in the 19-23 range to a team who otherwise probably would have taken Budinger.
    me too
    i like this guy since i saw him during the final four , he could be a hugue addition , i think the spurs needs someone who can be a menace offensivly and he's the guy
    also i think he have a big potential

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    here's an idea not just for CDR but for any player the Spurs like but fear might be slightly out of reach.

    Considering the financial hardships that the Seattle ownership group is going to go through with relocation no matter what, Seattle might be willing to swap the 24 for the 26 with the only incentive being cash considerations.

    Moving up two spots could make a big difference in this draft and could be the difference in having a shot at CDR, Lee, Rush, Batum, Walker et al on the board and not having anyone there except Roy Hibbert.
    With that in mind, on draft day we may be watching the draft and see Seattle draft a coveted player and we all collectively groan. Only to have Stern come to the podium and announce a pre-arranged trade and Seattle was drafting on our behalf.

    Good thought.

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    If Memphis or another team leapfrogs Orlando and grabs Courtney Lee, the Magic may wind up taking CDR ahead of us.

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