WTF happened to the BUSH lovers?

[Yonivore]

Nope. I'm just a person who would rather see you and your car dead than the ecosystem that was here before you.

And that makes you a ing idiot.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

yonivore makes a point without lubing it up for once, save for the fact that anwr is a myth, and exploring and working it would only cost money in the long run, and not solve anything oil-related.

i think the statistic is it would save 1 cent in gasoline within like 10 years

[Wild Cobra]

WC, why do continue to mischaracterize the intel as being good or bad when we know that the reasons for war were deliberately misleading?

But there is no good evidence it was intentionally misleading by the administration. The only material that appears intentionally misleading was by the CIA. Not anyone in the White House.

Keep holding on the erroneous ideas about the facts. Someday you will realize how foolish you are, and how misplaced your hatred is. Tenet is the only one who appears to have trumped up any evidence. President Bush went by what he was supplied, relying on the accuracy of others.

[Wild Cobra]

Warning....

Lemming Alert...

I consider high oil prices a good thing. The higher the better in my opinion.

And going into ANWR. I'd rather see oil jump another $100 bucks a barrel before seeing one single caribou herd alter it's migration patterns in even the slightest of degrees.

Funny how Caribou dwelling near the pipeline in Alaska have grown in herd sizes. The warmth from the heated oil keeps areas more habitable for them! They are raised above the ground as not to cut off wildlife movement. Some places are at ground level, but then they raise it for access every so often.



From a 2001 article led Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge finds itself at the center of a national drama :

Murkowski says the dramatically increased population of the Central Arctic caribou herd near existing oil fields 120 miles west of Kaktovik shows that development isn't a threat to wildlife. The herd numbered 3,000 when trans-Alaska oil pipeline construction began in the mid-1970s and is more than 27,000 now.

The Central Arctic herd, about half of which wanders the 1002 area where drilling would occur, has been on the rise since the oil boom on the North Slope, increasing from 3,000 animals in the early 1970s to 27,000 as of this past winter. Caribou wander by the drilling sites and seek shade under the elevated pipelines. Supporters of oil exploration in the arctic refuge say the Central Arctic herd's experience proves development and wildlife can co-exist.

While the initial Prudhoe Bay field is considered an impediment to the free passage of caribou, mitigation measures at neighboring fields developed later -- including elevated pipelines and increased distances between pipelines and heavily traveled roads -- resulted in the caribou "habituating" to the infrastructure, according to industry-financed studies. Gravel pads even provide relief from swarms of insects that induce post-calving stress in midsummer.

[Wild Cobra]

i think the statistic is it would save 1 cent in gasoline within like 10 years

Who's statistic and from when? That's just under 1% if you mean when gas was $1.20 per gallon. If it came from someone who is against the project, we can assume the figure is the lowest possible calculation.

Let me ask you something. If it isn't worth going after, then why not open it up for the oil companies and let their experts make that determination rather than political pundits?