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it would be a ing disgrage to rammstein to compare them to some of the bands on that list
I know mastodon was playing a few dates with maiden. don't know if deathKlok was included.
it would be a ing disgrage to rammstein to compare them to some of the bands on that list
Smart #1. If they hadn't been #1, this list would have failed no matter how they ranked anyone else. As it is...because of Sabbath's ranking, no matter what other ups they made the list is legitimate.
I'd say it's fair to classify AC DC and Aerosmith as Heavy Metal. ACDC was definitely considered heavy metal at one point. It's more difficult to put Aerosmith on the list, but I remember in the early early 80's Aerosmith was pretty much considered heavy metal.
...Def Leppard was considered heavy metal when they first came out.
Some of the other bands are jokes being on this list...most definitely Thin Lizzy.
I haven't listened to heavy metal, probably since Metallica went mainstream, so I don't know much about most of the newer bands, but these are some of the notable omissions IMO:
1. Iron Butterfly - IMO they were the first modern heavy metal band even though they seldom get credit for it, so they belong on the list. I've can only think of one song they made, but to me In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida is the first heavy metal song, and it's a long damn song too....that song is practically an album. Plus, I mean you hear that song and it's heavy. And it predates Sabbath just barely.
They've even got the name, and on their album they defined themselves as heavy. I think they probably deserve to be on this list more than Steppenwolf, even though I think Steppenwolf was the first band to ever use the term in a song. BLue Cheer is another band that is in the discussion for protopyical heavy metal band.
2. Blue Oyster Cult - Yeah they're heavy metal, half the time, and they were the first ones to use the term in a song name .
3. Raven - I can't think of a single song they made, nor have I heard anything from them in a loooooooong time...all I know is that the first time I heard Metallica, Metallica was the opening band for Raven. It was funny...we were excited about getting to see Raven, that was all we could talk about, didn't even know who Metallica was and Metallica destroyed them, and Raven was never heard from again. I think it happened on that entire tour that launched Metallica. The funny thing is they were actually a pretty good band...and were generally considered the best heavy metal band at the time of that tour...but they never got over the devastation that Metallica laid on them.
4. Alice Cooper - Maybe not a guy that screams heavy metal right off the bat, until you realize how many Metal Bands ripped off his stage persona. Kiss didn't invent the look and the themes...Alice Cooper did. He was so influential that he belongs on that list before most of the bands do.
It's funny...he's not even considered that unique by modern standards...but he was a ing freak at one point.
5. UFO - I don't know why UFO never gets mentioned on any lists...Rock or Heavy Metal...people don't know what they're missing.
And you can't mention UFO without mentioning:
6. Michael Shenker(and group) - After Tony Iommi and before Randy Rhodes...this guy was theeeeeee Heavy Metal Guitarist.
There are probably a lot of new bands that are better bands and more deserving of being on the list than those guys...but I just know those guys belong on there more than some of those bands that made the list(like Thin Lizzy, who is not heavy metal and never was).
I was wondering why BOC and UFO didn't get any mention on the list in question. I mean, if you're going to put Alice In Chains and Spinal Tap on the list, BOC and UFO should be on there long before you even get to AIC & the 'Tap.
Also: why all the disdain for Lizzy? Granted, I wouldn't consider them metal either, but if push came to shove, they deserve a spot moreso than say Meshggah, Robin Trower or Rush.
It's not disdain, I like Thin Lizzy...but they aren't a heavy metal band. Plus I couldn't remember any of the other bands that didn't belong on the list. I agree, Rush and Robin Trower don't belong either. Or Alice in Chains. Rush and Thin Lizzy aren't even close to heavy hetal IMO. I've never heard of Meshggah.
I don't have any issue with calling Rush metal if you're talking about their 70s material. Same with AiC... I don't know if I'd call them a metal band, but I've always thought of Dirt as a metal album.
Kick ass band. PS...it is Meshuggah.
Debate away, at least the guy got Metallica, Slayer, Pantera and Motorhead on the list.
Think of some noobs list that could have written this piece. Fallout Boy, My Chemical Romance or some obscure reference to Green Day or Jackal.
This list sucks bottome line. IF anything they should have done it by era.
Where the is Dream Theater?
i seemed to have missed "gay" in the thread le.
^^ LMAO. This list fails especially because its totally opinionated. To each their own.
Is that them?
Gawd they suck.
That is why I don't listen to Heavy Metal anymore...IMO, it's just crap with little or no musical value, and to make things even worse...it's not even original crap or crap with variety. Not the topic of the songs, not the guitar stylings, not the vocal stylings...I doubt their visual style is original either.
IF you are going to eradicate any semblance of a melody and non screaming vocalizations, from your music...it at least needs to be original and you haven't heard before...not where not only does it sound like 50 other bands, but you can't even tell where one of their songs ends and the next one begins.
It's just not that good...especially in a genre where imitation is king.
Where's Megadeth? Sepultura? Saxon? Anthrax?
Anyone who says Rammstein should be there needs to listen to oween first and then come back to this thread.
If Hendrix, Alice In Chains and even friggin Aerosmith are to be considered, then the earlier Queen should be in there too.
Kiss blows. If they're there, so should be Alice Cooper.
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