Off come the lid on WTC 7!

[Wild Cobra]

What mental ins ute does Galileo live at? Anyone know?

[Don Quixote]

The Truthers are the Jehovah's Witnesses of politics.

[RandomGuy]

There are ways to get around the Cons ution, that's why you get a good lawyer to write legal memos. The ideal legal memo will claim you are following the Cons ution, while at the same time you are breaking it.

There's no law that legalizes killing US citizens in false-flag operations. That's where secret executive orders come in and claims of national security. There aren't many laws on the books regulating false flag military operations, so there'e a legal loophole to drive a truc through right there.

They do have a name for the people killed in false-flag operations, they're called collateral damage.

PS

Here is an example of a good Bush lawyer, Alberto Gonzales.

Gonzales, when he testified to congress about habeas corpus said the Cons ution never says you have the right of habeas corpus, so the Gitmo detensions were legal. And Gonzales is right, it doensn't say anywhere in the Cons ution that "you have the right of habeas corpus".

Go read the text.

You are assuming that no one involved would have had an attack of conscience and come forward to speak out about it.

How many people were involved in this "false-flag" operation?

[RandomGuy]

The Truthers are the Jehovah's Witnesses of politics.

"Knock knock"

"Who's there?"

"OHMYGODYOUKNOWTHEYDIDITIHAVEAWEBSITEWITHAVIDEOTHA TPROVESIT!!!"

[RandomGuy]

"Knock knock"

"Who's there?"

"Wedidifer."

"Wedidifer who?"

"Wedidifer da oil."

[RandomGuy]

"Knock knock"

"Who's there?"

"Lazas"

"Lazas who?"

"Lazas and space beams destroyed the towers."

[Galileo]

You are assuming that no one involved would have had an attack of conscience and come forward to speak out about it.

How many people were involved in this "false-flag" operation?

Three people.

[ChumpDumper]

Three people.

[RandomGuy]

Three people.

(wipes tears from eyes)

No, seriously, how many people were involved in this.

You stated for absolute certainty that this was a false-flag operation, so I am sure you can tell me what was involved.

Faking of passports? yes/no?
Demolition of buildings? yes/no?


Seriously, outline your rough estimate of what happened. If you can't at least do that, you can sit over there with the flat earth crowd.

[ChumpDumper]

Three people hijacked four planes!

[TeyshaBlue]

1)

The hijackers weren't told it was suicide mission, they were patsies. The planes were remote controlled ino the targets. Either that, or they paid them more.

2) Cheney had personal authority to schedule the wargames, that's right. You can look it up.

3) OK, it could have been a week before, but that's it.

Dude, when the tenants of your "arguement" are peppered with qualifiers, then you know you're in trouble....or a conspiracy theorists backyard.

[RandomGuy]

Ok, remote controlled planes.

That means you have to have at least 1 person to wire up 4 jetliners without anybody noticing.

Reprogramming autopilots don't cut it, because they aren't sophisticated enough to hit specific targets.

There is one person, probably more, but let's give this operation creds for being really good at their jobs.

Now, assuming remote controls for 4 planes simultaneously, requires 4 people trained to operate the "remote controls", and this assumes that the same mysterious, extremely sneaky, hard-working tech that installed the remote control devices was also capable of hooking up the aircraft to the controlled equipment.

So there is at least five people outside of the people who ordered it.

Galileo is also on record as saying that WTC 7 was obviously imploded, if not the other two towers.

Gawd, even giving them their generous assumptions of limited amounts of explosives on limited columns, fully wiring 3 buildings for explosives in "less than a week" would require...

20 columns per floor, 260 floors or so, 5 minutes to attach, test and troubleshoot any problems per charge, 20*260*5 is about 173 man-hours, or 36 days of 12 hour shifts.

To accomplish this all in 7 days would take 5 guys. Again this assumes that placing the charges are done in total secrecy.

So there is at least 10 active conspirators.

[RandomGuy]

Add to this the security guys who were ordered to allow access to the buildings to the extremely hard-working, sneaky magic demolition crew... call it two guys at the top...

There's at least twelve people.

[RandomGuy]

This assumes some very generous assumptions for our astronomically-named friend.

Take away the generous assumptions, and you have 2-4 technicians to wire the planes, a larger demolition crew, and one or two more security guys to help.

That makes the number of people that would logically have to have been active participants at about 20 or so.

Even if you only had a "bit" part and didn't know WHY you were doing what you were doing, you would have figured it out pretty darn quick from the news reports. i.e. I don't know why I am installing this sophisticated equipment in secret on this commercial airplane, but when I watch the news from sept 11, and recognize the plane I worked on as having hit WTC1, I can put 2 and 2 together.

[RandomGuy]

You might be able to assume the techinicians and security guys were not quite in on it, but figured it out afterwards.

You have to assume that the remote control operators and demolition experts knew bloody well what they were doing...

Either way, any ONE of them could leak the information on the operation.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, three guys knocked the prep work in one weekend and squeezed in a quick 18 with Bush at the Andrews AFB golf course on Sunday.

[RandomGuy]

Dude, three guys knocked the prep work in one weekend and squeezed in a quick 18 with Bush at the Andrews AFB golf course on Sunday.

I even "did my research" and found their pictures:

[xrayzebra]

You know if people don't post on these threads the quickly go to the other page and are forgotten.

You know like, place in "in basket" and let it die a natural death.

[RandomGuy]

You know if people don't post on these threads the quickly go to the other page and are forgotten.

You know like, place in "in basket" and let it die a natural death.

Yuppers. That is why I give up on them after a few pages. Not worth responding to after a while.

Worth making fun of, but not responding seriously, this post aside.

I have made my point, and will probably do just that, i.e. ignore it after this.