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  1. #976
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    Don't start any premature celebrations. I think you're confusing the Spurs with the Mavs.

    As for the Cavs, I really feel bad for you guys. I hope you guys do get the number one pick.
    LOL, I'm as much of a Cleveland fan as Axe Murderer is a Toronto fan. I have roots here growing up in a suburb of Cleveland. I have no emotional attachment to the team nor to Lebron. I have followed the Spurs passionately since the Admiral era so when posters make jokes at my expense for being a Cleveland fan, I play along.

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    I have roots here growing up in a suburb of Cleveland.
    Damn bro. That is a sad story. If you need a friend, PM me, I know a lot of good shrinks.

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    Damn bro. That is a sad story. If you need a friend, PM me, I know a lot of good shrinks.
    Beachwood is an upscale suburb of Cleveland. Its not too sad of a story if you like nice things. At this time, I don't need to borrow one of your many shrinks. They probably have their hands full.

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    Beachwood is an upscale suburb of Cleveland. Its not too sad of a story if you like nice things. At this time, I don't need to borrow one of your many shrinks. They probably have their hands full.
    Just go cry already over that team and June means now, there is not great #1 out there to get now and the team will still suck for years bro! GOOD LORD that team is horrible. Bron left you guys for dead and you know it.

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    dOES aNYONE hAVE a bREWER uPDATE???
    I wonder the same thing. It's not like he's Jesus lil brother or anything. But everyones goin crazy over him.

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...r-corey-brewer 3:02 AM by Stein ESPN nothing new except Mavs still favorite due to having more to spend.

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...r-corey-brewer 3:02 AM by Stein ESPN nothing new except Mavs still favorite due to having more to spend.
    if brewer chooses celts or mavs, what would be our backup plan?

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    if brewer chooses celts or mavs, what would be our backup plan?
    Finley

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    i know u would pick finley....but i want to know what others think

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    Boston is interested in everybody that gets bought out apparently.
    Bottom feeders

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    I think he is torn between sentimentally picking the Spurs and financially picking the Mavs.
    My guess is that Pop sold him on becoming a Spur and that he could truly be a huge help here for a long time to come, but he is young and the Mavs undoubtedly offered more and maybe even a starting role so that together offsets the sentimental choice or at least tears at him making the choice so much harder. Just a guess.
    If he is like most, expect him to choose the money and run.

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    i know u would pick finley....but i want to know what others think
    Finley?

    no

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...r-corey-brewer 3:02 AM by Stein ESPN nothing new except Mavs still favorite due to having more to spend.
    So if Brewer chooses the Spurs over the Mavs, that means he really wants to be here or he feels the Spurs have a better shot at the 'ship. I'm Ok with that

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    If it’s about money, the Dallas Maverick may win out as they still have their full mid-level exception they can offer up. Meaning Dallas can offer $4 million, San Antonio can offer up about $1.5 million in a cap exception, and Boston can offer only a veteran minimum, same with Miami.
    Charlotte and New Orleans also are throwing their hats in the ring.


    But Dallas can offer money and the chance to contend. That’s got to be a tempting combo.

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    If Brewer picks Spurs, the smartest thing to do for him will be the STFU until Friday when he will clear waivers.

    Dallas has a trade exception big enough to claim him from waivers but it's a move that will cost $4.5M to Cuban. It wouldn't be a reasonable move but Cuban could be tempted to do it if he knows that Brewer will go to SA once he has cleared waivers.
    Paging Bruno for more explanations on this...

    Questions:
    - claiming a player off waivers supersedes any prior arrangement this players might have? For example Brewer announces he will sign with Spurs, Cuban can still claim him?
    - where do the $4.5M in your example go? To the NBA, as a fee? To the player, and if yes, as a one-time bonus, or added to his contract, or just replacing his contract?

    Cos if it's money down the drain, yes that might be tough to swallow, even for Cuban (and in this case I guess there's a pre-agreed salary to be paid regulated by the CBA?)

    But if $4.5M is actually Brewer's salary if picked up from waivers, then it's not really that much more than the $4M that Dallas can offer anyway... so Cuban might do it.

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    Ah, so bought-out players still have to go through the waiver wire. Okay, I didn't know that, my apologies to whoever I said the opposite to earlier.

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    You're thinking of Lebron.

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    I don't think that game last night helped us in the chase for him. We looked soft as and the Mavs actually won theirs. That might have screwed our chances with him

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    I don't think that game last night helped us in the chase for him. We looked soft as and the Mavs actually won theirs. That might have screwed our chances with him
    I feel like he would look at us and see that we needed a defensive stopper.

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    I feel like he would look at us and see that we needed a defensive stopper.
    He could also look at the Mavs and Peja being in the starting unit, and see that the Mavs need a defensive stopper in the starting unit as well.

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    Paging Bruno for more explanations on this...

    Questions:
    - claiming a player off waivers supersedes any prior arrangement this players might have? For example Brewer announces he will sign with Spurs, Cuban can still claim him?
    - where do the $4.5M in your example go? To the NBA, as a fee? To the player, and if yes, as a one-time bonus, or added to his contract, or just replacing his contract?

    Cos if it's money down the drain, yes that might be tough to swallow, even for Cuban (and in this case I guess there's a pre-agreed salary to be paid regulated by the CBA?)

    But if $4.5M is actually Brewer's salary if picked up from waivers, then it's not really that much more than the $4M that Dallas can offer anyway... so Cuban might do it.
    A great explanation of the waivers procedure:
    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q56

    What are waivers?

    It's a temporary status for players who are released by their team. A player released between August 15th and the end of the regular season stays on waivers for 48 hours. A player released at any other time stays on waivers for seven days. During the waiver period other teams may claim a waived player. If more than one team tries to claim the player, the team with the worst record gets him. If a player on waivers is claimed, the new team acquires his existing contract and pays the remainder of his salary. There is also a fee of $1,000, payable to the league office, for claiming a waived player.

    A team can claim a waived player only if one of the following is true:

    * The team is far enough under the salary cap to fit the player's entire salary.
    * The team has a Disabled Player exception for at least the player's salary.
    * The team has a Traded Player exception for at least the player's salary.
    * The player's contract is for one or two seasons and he is paid the minimum salary.

    If no team claims a waived player, he is said to have "cleared waivers." The player may sign with a new team of his choice, and the player's prior team continues to pay the guaranteed portion of the terminated contract. The player's salary with his new team is a matter of negotiation. Few players are actually claimed while on waivers, since the team claiming a waived player inherits his entire contract. It is far more common for teams to wait for the player to clear waivers, and then sign him to a much smaller (even minimum salary) contract.
    Dallas has a traded player exception big enough to claim Brewer from waivers. If they do it and no teams with a worse record do, they will automatically get Brewer even if he wants to play elsewhere.

    Brewer's salary this year was $3.7M. Dallas will have to pay the part of this salary ( about $800K) that he still must get. Dallas is also above the luxury tax so they will have to pay $3.7M in tax if they claim him from waivers.

    And if Dallas offer him $4M after he has cleared waivers, it will cost them $8M because of the tax. It will be more expensive than claiming him from waivers but they could lock him to a multiyear contract.

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    A great explanation of the waivers procedure:
    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q56



    Dallas has a traded player exception big enough to claim Brewer from waivers. If they do it and no teams with a worse record do, they will automatically get Brewer even if he wants to play elsewhere.

    Brewer's salary this year was $3.7M. Dallas will have to pay the part of this salary ( about $800K) that he still must get. Dallas is also above the luxury tax so they will have to pay $3.7M in tax if they claim him from waivers.

    And if Dallas offer him $4M after he has cleared waivers, it will cost them $8M because of the tax. It will be more expensive than claiming him from waivers but they could lock him to a multiyear contract.
    Makes me feel like if Dallas really wanted him, they'd be swooping in and nabbing him off the wire any time now.

    I feel like the longer this goes (at least until Friday), the better the Spurs chances get.

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    Makes me feel like if Dallas really wanted him, they'd be swooping in and nabbing him off the wire any time now.

    I feel like the longer this goes (at least until Friday), the better the Spurs chances get.
    After looking more closely, brewer was waived on Monday so he will clear waivers today.

    And when a team claims a player from waivers, you don't hear about it until the end of the waiver period.

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    And when a team claims a player from waivers, you don't hear about it until the end of the waiver period.
    Well ain't that a . Makes sense. I guess every team has to have their bid at him.

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    After looking more closely, brewer was waived on Monday so he will clear waivers today.

    And when a team claims a player from waivers, you don't hear about it until the end of the waiver period.
    Meaning we won't hear about it until the end of his own particular waiver period that happens today, or the end of the entire waiver period of all the players on waivers?

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