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Like I said tbh. I think this is legit. Clingan or a trade at 3 for the Rockets. They need someone to throw at Wemby moving forward cause Sengun ain’t the guy to do it. Clingan feels like a very Ime Udoka pick tbh.
agreed. he makes a ton of sense for them. unlike ATL/HOU, their priority is not year 1 production out of their pick. Sarr needs some time to cook, and Washington can be plenty patient. he also is less of a pick and roll guy and more of a face up guy, at least as far as what his aspirations are. washington has more use for a guy like that than ATL/HOU as well
Like I said tbh. I think this is legit. Clingan or a trade at 3 for the Rockets. They need someone to throw at Wemby moving forward cause Sengun ain’t the guy to do it. Clingan feels like a very Ime Udoka pick tbh.
Let’s goooooo. Love to see it.
If that happens, the question then becomes do the Spurs value Shepherd over Castle? Cause Reed definitely won’t be there at 8 tbh.
It probably won't happen this summer - but if a big trade opportunity that made a lot of sense (like the Lauri hypothetical I offered) presented itself and we passed because "we are being patient"... then we aren't being patient, we are being paralyzed by stupidity.
I'm not worried about where Sarr goes, because he's a theoretical player who projects to a not-so-valuable archetype (rim running big) and hasn't actually been all that impressive to begin with. I just don't understand why I'm supposed to be smitten with 9 points and 4 rebounds in 17 mpg in the freakin' NBL. This is not quite James Wiseman level wish casting, but it's not super far off either.
Follow up to that: is keldon Johnson worth sacrificing to get both?
I think the best way to evaluate this is to consider: what kind of pick should be required to move up from 8 to 5 or 6 to get both? Once you have that, then you can ask - would you trade Keldon to receive that? My feeling is that Keldon is probably worth more than that (I think Keldon is worth an FRP expected to land in the 20s, but a couple of SRPs should be enough to to move from 8 to 6).
if the top 4 are Sarr/Risacher/Clingan/Sheppard...
i dont think detroit cares for castle, between Cade/Ausar/Ivey, they have enough work to do there. i think buzelis makes a ton of sense next to Duren for them, or maybe Cody Williams. i think Charlotte is the big threat to take Castle as a connective piece and defensive ace alongside Lamelo and Miller. they also may like Clingan with Mark Williams' health issues, but Clingan is off the board in this scenario as well. they also may like Knecht, but i doubt they take him over Castle. portland doesnt seem like a big threat for Castle imo
Lots of boards are popping with Castle to Charlotte. With him being confirmed as having worked out for them, it seems a clear threat. He's a perfect fit for their needs, a defensive ace and good connector to play off LaMelo who can take over duties when LaMelo inevitably takes the rest of the year off.
Yup. If it breaks this way with Sarr, Clingan and Risacher 1-3, then Spurs have a direct path to getting Reed + Castle and should be able to trade up with DET or CHA to get it done.
I previously thought Charlotte would be fine moving back a couple spots given how it seemed Castle didn't want to play there. But if he's really their guy, I think you'd need a rich pot to get up to grab him.
Why do you think Houston takes Risacher? He doesn't seem to fit. They have much better options at the wing already, even if they need shooting. Or do you mean they'd pick and trade him?
I dont, I think ATL may take Risacher, WAS takes Sarr and HOU takes Clingan…OR ATL takes Clingan, WAS takes Sarr, HOU trades pick and someone nabs Risacher.
Ah. Ok. To me I'm seeing Clingan-Sarr-Sheppard. I think the Spurs will need to decide whether to take Risacher or someone else, presumably Castle.
I'm not buying Houston wants Clingan; they're probably just trying to scare Memphis into trading up to get him.
It's likely they take Sheppard or trade out to whoever wants Clingan. Outside chance of Castle.
That would be great because that means Reed falls to SA
Why does Houston take Clingan when they have Sengun? They most certaintly can't play together.
They were very clear that winning was the goal last season.
Why are you so quick to discard any evidence that is contrary to your own opinion?
Charlotte may be going hard for the 3 pick. Charlotte redditors think this may be Reed Sheppard instead of Clingan. All hearsay, however.
This leaves a conundrum -- if Clingan happens to still be on the board. Do the Spurs use him to trade down? If not, it may be crazy that this leaves Houston with the opportunity to trade down to a team that likes Clingan again.
Regardless, there's fire forming around Houston moving off the pick. If they go to 6, then I can see Houston maybe taking a Dalton Knecht.
Outside chance that Charlotte's target really is Castle and they want to jump in front of the Spurs.
I think you completely misunderstood what they were saying. But, again, you can harbor a fantasy of trading for Trae Young if you want. Nobody's stopping you.
Listening to the CHA podcasters, it sounds like they may have fallen in love with Reed? Or they may be wanting to get ahead of SA to take Castle?
At 6 they saw Castle, Reed, and Holland as the targets, with Dalton potentially a dark horse. Not gospel obviously, but theyve been pretty consistent.
GSW probably has a deal in place to buy pick #35 for $1 million and then pick McCain.
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