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Looks like the NFL and the NFLPA are just smarter than these guys since they got their CBA done without cancelling any regular season games at all. maybe the NBA and NBAPA need to ask the NFL how they got it done
I wonder if it's prohibitive? I can't imagine Fisher not looking out for Buss there. It must be a manageable ratio.
Looks like the NFL and the NFLPA are just smarter than these guys since they got their CBA done without cancelling any regular season games at all. maybe the NBA and NBAPA need to ask the NFL how they got it done
In announcing the cancellation of all NBA games through November 30, commissioner David Stern said that there will not be a full 82-game season "under any cir stances."
The players' union drew a line at 52% of BRI, stalling talks even after significant progress was made on 'systems issues' such as amnesty clauses and the luxury tax. There are no scheduled negotiation sessions and NBPA president Derek Fisher has flown home, according to various sources, so the odds of a deal this weekend just tanked. The sides have inched closer and closer, however, and presumably there will be more talks early next week.
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it looks like this guy does not care.he needs to stay where he is at and case they need to meet tomorrow or Sunday.
If I ever meet David Stern, I'm punching that guy in the balls. What a major league asshole he's turned out to be.
You have to give him credit though... he was saying with a straight face that the owners made "concessions", such as $5 million MLE and the length of the contracts being 4 and 5 years (as opposed to 3 and 4 years the owners originally proposed)...
As a reminder, the MLE for 2010-2011 was $5.7 million and the length of the contracts were 5 and 6 years.
I'm praying that would be the case, but Idk what to believe from Stern and crew now.
I never liked this guy and that was way before .4. He's an overrated POS flopper and fake tough guy. One thing I look forward to if this lockout last a year is that he will be made the fall guy by the Union. It going to be great seeing him get lynched by few hundred angry players.
Yeah, too bad they've suspended transcontinental flights and there's no way Fisher can get back in, like, half a day. He doesn't deserve to spend Halloween with his kids or see his family because... something something.
I don't see about what players and owners could talk right now. Fisher being in LA or in NY doesn't matter. Negotiations are in an impasse. It is that simple.
http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/st...99592053268480
Arison will be fined $100K by Stern with that comment.NBA's united owners @MickyArison: u r barking at wrong owner. RT @GreedyNBAs s: guess what? Fans provide the money you're fighting over
you Derek Fisher. Just had to say that. I hate that y player.
just having to c the fate of the nba players being lead by fish and roger "i suck out loud mason" gives me a bad feeling
much logic in this.STEIN_LINE_HQ Marc Stein
Amnesty Clause latest: Sources say Spurs pushing for clause teams can "save" instead of immediate use-it-or-lose-it -
2012 will be the crucial summer for the Spurs future and there are a lot of questions open and a lot of things can happen till then.
it all starts with the question if Tim retires and if he does, do the Spurs totally rebuild, or just reload. a lot will depend on how the young players will perform this season, something they can't know right now.
Spurs won't be enough $ under the cap (whatever the cap will be) to be a player in the 2012 free agency. also not, if they use the AC this summer on RJ. but they could try to get rid of some contracts this deadline and then have the flexibility to use the clause on whatever contract they want in 2012, especially if the major goal will be to create as much cap room as possible. (yes, this could even be Manu, who's salary will be the highest at that point)
This latest bit was all just a show on the owners part in the run up to the NLRB ruling. They wanted to look more like they were negotiating, and they did. There was never really any chance of a negotiated settlement. The owners don't want one. They want their terms or no season.
I guess we are having no season then as long as Fisher is there.
5 million per year average player salary.
Matt Bonner 3.3 million a year to suck.
The owners did come down from 57% to 52%.
At what point should the players simply concede even if the owners are making more of their **fair** share?
lol Fabbs
Exactly. The owners never came off 50%. They went up 3% from their initial position of 47%. The players came down 5% from their current percentage of 57%.
It makes no sense to continue the lockout over the difference between 52.5% and 50%, neither side wanting to be known as the side that caved seems like the only thing keeping the lockout going. That 2.5% in revenue they're fighting over is probably close to being lost just on the games they've missed.
The 2% difference is about $100 million per year. Over a 10 year long CBA it's around $1 billion. It's a lot of money and they're not losing that much cancelling a few november games.
I heard somewhere they're already projected to lose $300,000,000 as of right now. I also had no idea it'd be a 10 year CBA.
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