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    That Ian Begley tweet has the word "if" in it enough to make it seem like this guy is not sure what he wants to do.

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    Yep. Ultimately it's Morris/Klutch decision--but Morris is a knucklehead and Klutch is Klutch. The Knicks FO's behavior is puzzling and, as you say, shady. None of this happens without them instigating it. It's like a guy walking by a wedding trying to seduce the bride just before the vows...
    I could see Marcus Morris in that exact example. “Your man must be happy, but you happy?”

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    He will still sign with the Spurs.

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    So basically the Knicks' pursuit of Morris would Bullock out of real money. Plantar fascilitis is common for basketball players, this is not some "red flag" injury which warrants voiding a player signing. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...67.TFUd5ksG8BQ

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    If Bullock's agent hold NY to their agreement and we hold onto Morris I'd go all in on roco and sign a 3rd big and get ready for camp.

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    True, in theory, but no other agency is owned by an NBA player, and so Klutch appears to operate under different assumptions.
    Yes and not. As AD said, players are their own corporations. The difference between Klutch and other agencies is marginal, at this point. Do you think the Kawhi/Uncle manipulations are less slimy than Klutch's?

    Nowadays star players have all the power, and no obligations to respect their contract, let alone their word. That's the NBA we live in. Obviously Klutch stands out as being owned by LBJ, but in terms of ethics they all look the same.

    I wish the players would try to run their own league. It would be a laughable show, and after a couple years we would be back to a league where players play and contracts mean something.

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    This is not a "re-work" but a screwing of Bullock.

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    He'll be a Spurs

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    So basically the Knicks' pursuit of Morris would Bullock out of real money. Plantar fascilitis is common for basketball players, this is not some "red flag" injury which warrants voiding a player signing. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...67.TFUd5ksG8BQ
    Teodosic costed the Clippers 10 mil for 20 games for the same injury

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    I just can't see Bullock going from 2/21 to 1/4.9 or even vet min. Something like 2/14 or 1/7 seems way more realistic

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    Not really; this happens all the time behind closed doors! I don’t agree with it but I’m also not going to have a meltdown over this player/agency. Pops/Spurs memories are long I suspect!
    This certainly does not always happen.

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    honestly if you consider the fit and the usual jump in efficiency and defense that players who join the Spurs make, he'd be stupid to go to the Knicks. He'll get a way better contract offer next year playing in San Antonio. Knicks will tank and he might just be on the bench for half a season

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    I just can't see Bullock going from 2/21 to 1/4.9 or even vet min. Something like 2/14 or 1/7 seems way more realistic
    That comes out of their cap room, and doesn't allow NY to steal Morris.

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    I just can't see Bullock going from 2/21 to 1/4.9 or even vet min. Something like 2/14 or 1/7 seems way more realistic
    That would only leave 7M for Morris.

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    This certainly does not always happen.
    Sure it does with negotiating...... you don’t all the moving parts to arrive at any/all deals.

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    You think these other agencies don’t use leverage when it’s available? Wise up bruh! Leverage comes in many forms.

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    Never personal......just shady ass business!

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    That comes out of their cap room, and doesn't allow NY to steal Morris.
    that's what I'm saying. That's the key factor now. What sum will Reggie Bullock agree to?

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    I just can't see Bullock going from 2/21 to 1/4.9 or even vet min. Something like 2/14 or 1/7 seems way more realistic

    I can't either. Which is why I said they're going to have to make some kind of back door deal. It's why Bullock's agent is calling them "mensches" - they're trying to come up with something creative. But I don't think there is a creative solution to this that gets Bullock satisfied, without going outside the rules.

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    This certainly does not always happen.
    No... but it does happen. I get the feeling that things are starting to happen more under Silver. I saw the video of his conference where he talked about people violating the moratorium. He admitted that when people make announcements of a deal within minutes of the FA season, there were likely "discussions" going on behind the scenes. But he sort of brushed it off, saying these things have always happened, and maybe the rules need to be looked at.

    Now that I think about it, Silver seemed content that these kinds of things happen all the time. He just acted like it was a small thing, and they might make a few small tweaks to make things more consistent.

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    No... but it does happen. I get the feeling that things are starting to happen more under Silver. I saw the video of his conference where he talked about people violating the moratorium. He admitted that when people make announcements of a deal within minutes of the FA season, there were likely "discussions" going on behind the scenes. But he sort of brushed it off, saying these things have always happened, and maybe the rules need to be looked at.

    Now that I think about it, Silver seemed content that these kinds of things happen all the time. He just acted like it was a small thing, and they might make a few small tweaks to make things more consistent.
    He's weak while Stern was corrupt.

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    Silver isn’t doing anything. This is “good” for the league getting constant media exposure. Unfortunately, it’s at the expense of the actual game and sucks for fans who support teams and not personalities.

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    Silver isn’t doing anything. This is “good” for the league getting constant media exposure. Unfortunately, it’s at the expense of the actual game and sucks for fans who support teams and not personalities.
    What is he going to do? There isn't a rule in place to prevent this. So he can't enforce a rule that doesn't exist. And how hard is Morris going to play and what kind of headache is he going to be if the league forces him to go to San Antonio against his will? And then you'll hear Draymond turn it into a race thing. There is nothing Silver can do accept apply pressure in backchannels, but even that is limited. Knicks are going to do what they want if its within the rules and Morris is going to take the money wherever he can get it.

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    Silver isn’t doing anything. This is “good” for the league getting constant media exposure. Unfortunately, it’s at the expense of the actual game and sucks for fans who support teams and not personalities.

    Silver actually said something about that in his interview. All the team-hopping is actually good for the league, since it makes the offseason more exciting, and results in a lot more fan interest. It's part of the plan. We complain, but it's not going to change, because the spectacle is exactly what they want. It's the perfect marriage of sports and reality TV drama.

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    According to KHRISJohnsonNBA, Marcus Morris will sign with NY. Just waiting for NY and Bullock to agree on a new deal.

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