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    The hard part is giving up our best three point shooter for another great shooter in Durant, but one with age and mileage and if he got injured, we'd be hurting badly on 3 point shooting.

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    The hard part is giving up our best three point shooter for another great shooter in Durant, but one with age and mileage and if he got injured, we'd be hurting badly on 3 point shooting.
    With Durant, spurs have no shooting problem

    Without Durant, spurs have a shooting problem. Regardless of barnes/vassell or not

    (Am a big fan of Barnes but KD obv on a different planet)

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    The hard part is giving up our best three point shooter for another great shooter in Durant, but one with age and mileage and if he got injured, we'd be hurting badly on 3 point shooting.
    Shooting is one thing Durant does. Shooting is the only thing Barnes does.

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    As of now the Spurs are very slight favorites over Houston to get KD. Seems the market views SA/Houston as the two clear most likely destinations. Next couple of weeks are going to be interesting!

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    Wouldn’t be surprised if the Spurs also include the 38. That would give the Suns a full draft class this year picking at 14, 38 and 52.

    Dev/Barnes/14/38 plus two future second round picks.

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    Wouldn’t be surprised if the Spurs also include the 38. That would give the Suns a full draft class this year picking at 14, 38 and 52.

    Dev/Barnes/14/38 plus two future second round picks.
    Don’t go bidding against yourself now. Obviously the Suns are interested, but is Houston even interested in KD?

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    Wouldn’t be surprised if the Spurs also include the 38. That would give the Suns a full draft class this year picking at 14, 38 and 52.

    Dev/Barnes/14/38 plus two future second round picks.
    Phoenix not only traded their firsts, they traded almost all of their seconds. We’ve got FOUR extra SRPs in 2026. I’d be OK if the Spurs dropped two of those into the pot, as long as we retain the Utah SRP.

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    As of now the Spurs are very slight favorites over Houston to get KD. Seems the market views SA/Houston as the two clear most likely destinations. Next couple of weeks are going to be interesting!
    I wish I had the ability to pull up historical odds maker predictions for player destinations. My hypothesis is that of all the things that bookmakers put odds on… this is the area where their odds are the most meaningless.

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    Trading Vassell is necessary to clear minutes for Harper. Also Vassell’s stock would take a hit sharing minutes. Spurs should trade while the iron is hot. But I’m not too crazy for a 2-yrs rental KD, especially if it includes #14. I think this draft is deep on solid role players like a Naz Reid defensive type player even at #14, Bryant, Fleming, Essengue, or if they want to go big Sorber. I rather they use future FRP’s, ATL swap, etc instead.
    Anyone who has hope of Harper playing legit minutes better hope for a Vassell trade. Durant, Collins, PJ, whoever, but Vassell is bad news for Harper time and on ball development
    Harper will just takes paul's minutes ( 28 per game).

    Not as high as some on KD, sure he will be a nice addition but if we are after a 3/4 i prefer to get someone younger.

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    Spurs are good at not overpaying for a player, so it will be interesting. Houston should have a better offer if they are putting the 10th pick on the table. So either Houston is not putting the 10th pick on the table, which should mean that we should only offer a protected future first round pick, or Durant is telling the Suns he wants SA, which also allows Spurs to pay less than market if Durant won't accept going anywhere else.

    Minnesota and Knicks don't have great assets to trade. Suns want a pick and even a protected future could be like top 3 protected or top 5 protected and that would be worth it. Or even a protected pick swap.

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    With Durant, spurs have no shooting problem

    Without Durant, spurs have a shooting problem. Regardless of barnes/vassell or not

    (Am a big fan of Barnes but KD obv on a different planet)
    Well, in giving up Vassell and Barnes, Spurs give up their two highest percentage 3 point shooters. Yes, Durant is an elite shooter, but if he got injured, losing those two shooters would really hurt. Spurs should look to add another shooter, if possible.

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    What do you think rockets have on the table?

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    Well, in giving up Vassell and Barnes, Spurs give up their two highest percentage 3 point shooters. Yes, Durant is an elite shooter, but if he got injured, losing those two shooters would really hurt. Spurs should look to add another shooter, if possible.
    Playing with a ragtag band of youngsters and Wemby, Barnes shot his career high of 43.3%. Makes me wonder if KD could shoot 45-46% from 3, playing off Wemby. That would be fun to watch.

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    Vassell is garbage

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    What do you think rockets have on the table?
    I’m not sure it matters if he’s said he’ll only extend in SA.

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    What do you think rockets have on the table?
    I would imagine something like FVV + Jock+ 10 + PHX 27 for KD + 29 something like that maybe?

    Or a third team where HOU sends Jalen Green + Jock + picks to PHX for KD + 29 and another player like Cam Whitmore or whatever gets routed to a different team for a pick

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    On the HOU fan site, I see them talking about trading Jalen which sorta surprises me.

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    On the HOU fan site, I see them talking about trading Jalen which sorta surprises me.
    I think they’ve figured out he’s nothing but a show pony.

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    My guess is that Durant wants to settle in Austin after his playing days are over.

    Especially with his rumored involvement in trying to bring a WNBA Team to Austin.

    That is probably a significant reason SA is at the top of his list, as he can travel between ATX and SA for games and then realize how ty traffic is in Austin and then hitting construction traffic getting into SA .

    I believe the Suns, now without Sarver, will help him reach his desired destination imo, as they know they are not competing anytime soon.

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    My guess is that Durant wants to settle in Austin after his playing days are over.

    Especially with his rumored involvement in trying to bring a WNBA Team to Austin.

    That is probably a significant reason SA is at the top of his list, as he can travel between ATX and SA for games and then realize how ty traffic is in Austin and then hitting construction traffic getting into SA .

    I believe the Suns, now without Sarver, will help him reach his desired destination imo, as they know they are not competing anytime soon.
    yes that's part of it. The reason he wants to leave Phoenix is because the Suns tried to sneaky trade him at the deadline, like Dallas did with Luka and KD got wind of it. The Suns also never asked if he was willing to extend, which is stupid.

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    As of now the Spurs are very slight favorites over Houston to get KD. Seems the market views SA/Houston as the two clear most likely destinations. Next couple of weeks are going to be interesting!
    It's understandable that the Spurs and Rox are considered the most likely. Odds makers are looking at Phoenix side in which they will want to maximize the haul of draft capital. Question is, are the two Texas teams willing to part with as much capital as Phoenix will want. I suspect the two teams will not be as willing as some may think.

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    It's understandable that the Spurs and Rox are considered the most likely. Odds makers are looking at Phoenix side in which they will want to maximize the haul of draft capital. Question is, are the two Texas teams willing to part with as much capital as Phoenix will want. I suspect the two teams will not be as willing as some may think.
    It doesn’t matter what Phoenix wants. They burned their bridges with him, he won’t extend, and they have to take whatever they can get or lose him for nothing in 2026. Other agents and players are watching this go down. They risk being an undesirable destination if they around with this.

    The driver in this trade is where will KD agree to extend. That will determine his price by likely cutting the market to only one team, like Fox did.

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    It doesn’t matter what Phoenix wants. They burned their bridges with him, he won’t extend, and they have to take whatever they can get or lose him for nothing in 2026. Other agents and players are watching this go down. They risk being an undesirable destination if they around with this.

    The driver in this trade is where will KD agree to extend. That will determine his price by likely cutting the market to only one team, like Fox did.
    Yeah, my whole point was the odds are based from the Phoenix perspective but that they are being more optimistic than I believe they should.

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    Yeah, my whole point was the odds are based from the Phoenix perspective but that they are being more optimistic than I believe they should.
    I think on something like this,the odds are based on nothing, just conjecture.

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