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    I don't see no touch and his hands are really bad.
    that tells me all I need to know about how much tape you actually watched and how many scouting reports you read. Thanks. Talk to someone who watched 3 min. highlight reels. Y'all will get along.

    Maluach would be a tough sell for me. What exactly is he going to help the Spurs with? Much better rebounding can be had. He gets moved off his spots with ease. He gets lost at times on both sides of the ball. He is very athletic for his size but what does he use that athleticism for? Block and steal rate is not very high. He is a rim running big that in theory you hope becomes a lot more. I don’t see the fit with Wemby. So you are drafting a backup center. Backup centers need to do the dirty work for 15-18 minutes a night. Maluach isn’t that type. If the Spurs are going backup center I would much rather have Sorber. Asa Newell and Maxime Raynaud would be better fits. They could play spot minutes with Wemby. Drafting Maluach to me would signal to me the Spurs are worried about Wemby’s long term health.
    these takes are hilarious to me. Like how much do you actually scout guys to come away with these takes? You know why his block and defensive rebounding rate is lower? Because he played in a hedge scheme and not in drop coverage.

    That being said, I'd also take Sorber without a doubt at #14.

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    that tells me all I need to know about how much tape you actually watched and how many scouting reports you read. Thanks. Talk to someone who watched 3 min. highlight reels. Y'all will get along.



    these takes are hilarious to me. Like how much do you actually scout guys to come away with these takes? You know why his block and defensive rebounding rate is lower? Because he played in a hedge scheme and not in drop coverage.

    That being said, I'd also take Sorber without a doubt at #14.
    If either of those players are bpa on BW’s board when he’s up at 14, fine. But I hope they don’t reach to fill a need. There still likely is a top 10 talent there at 14 if you disregard position. Look at JDub & McCain recently just to name two absolutely off the cusp.

    when I put my list I’m assuming these guys are absolutely gone at 14:

    flagg
    harper
    bailey (maybe a cam Whiitmore fall?)
    edgecomb
    kon
    tre
    fears
    malauch
    jakucionis
    queen

    Those guys should honestly be gone before 14 so I’m making that assumption. I’m also pretty confident that essengue and Bryant will be gone too. That leaves us one of the last two.
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    these takes are hilarious to me. Like how much do you actually scout guys to come away with these takes? You know why his block and defensive rebounding rate is lower? Because he played in a hedge scheme and not in drop coverage.

    That being said, I'd also take Sorber without a doubt at #14.
    I feel like he gets a lot of his takes from AI

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    that tells me all I need to know about how much tape you actually watched and how many scouting reports you read. Thanks. Talk to someone who watched 3 min. highlight reels. Y'all will get along.



    these takes are hilarious to me. Like how much do you actually scout guys to come away with these takes? You know why his block and defensive rebounding rate is lower? Because he played in a hedge scheme and not in drop coverage.

    That being said, I'd also take Sorber without a doubt at #14.
    Ive watched all his Duke games and Sudan games at this point. The guy is not physical for his size. He moves really well.

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    Maluach got benched vs Stanford. Go watch that tape. It’s not pretty. He couldn’t stop Maxime Raynaud. That’s the type of player he will face in the pros. Maybe watch more tape.

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    Maluach got benched vs Stanford. Go watch that tape. It’s not pretty. He couldn’t stop Maxime Raynaud. That’s the type of player he will face in the pros. Maybe watch more tape.
    Duke vs. Stanford

    Duke won 106-70

    Raynaud: 19 Points, 7 boards. 0 blocks, FG 7-21, 32 minutes

    Maluach: 17 points, 6 boards, 1 block, 8-9 FG, 21 minutes

    if that's what means getting outplayed to you, I take Maluach without blinking.

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    I never said outplayed. Watch the actual tape. You just pulled the boxscore. They had to take Maluach out of the game when Raynaud was on the court. Also scoreboard doesn’t matter when evaluating prospects

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    Duke vs. Stanford

    Duke won 106-70

    Raynaud: 19 Points, 7 boards. 0 blocks, FG 7-21, 32 minutes

    Maluach: 17 points, 6 boards, 1 block, 8-9 FG, 21 minutes

    if that's what means getting outplayed to you, I take Maluach without blinking.
    lol this has nothing to do with what I said

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    Are you saying you would take Maluach with pick 14 if there? I would pass. Are you high on Maluach as a prospect? You are not really saying much lol. Where do you rank him in this class?

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    I never said outplayed. Watch the actual tape. You just pulled the boxscore. They had to take Maluach out of the game when Raynaud was on the court. Also scoreboard doesn’t matter when evaluating prospects
    oh no they had to pull Maluach because Raynaud was going off in garbage time

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    Are you saying you would take Maluach with pick 14 if there? I would pass. Are you high on Maluach as a prospect? You are not really saying much lol. Where do you rank him in this class?
    Raynaud scored 8 points against Maluach and 8 when he wasn't on the floor. So again where did he cook him? When Maluach blocked his ass at the rim? Or when Maluach dunked the ball as a roller multiple times while Raynaud was out of position to guard him? Asking ChatGPT for help ain't it dude.



    Are you saying you would take Maluach with pick 14 if there? I would pass. Are you high on Maluach as a prospect? You are not really saying much lol. Where do you rank him in this class?
    I already posted my thoughts on Maluach multiple times.

    His rebounding and block numbers are inflated because he plays in a hedge scheme.

    He has great touch around the rim, which there's a lot of tape on. He has flashes of shooting from 3, midrange and even turnaround fadeaways. He shoots when playing for Sudan. Great FT%. Standing reach only 1 inch shorter than Wemby's.

    Played basketball for only 5 years. Never had access to a practice facility until he went to Duke. Improves and picks up things rapidly.

    Moves fluid, but gets caught with his feet in the wrong position often, which means he needs to be taught more defensive fundamentals. There's tape where he's able to guard guards and he has a large margin for error because of his length.

    Highest dunk rate of a prospect since 2008. Plays above the rim. His floor is basically Clint Capela. He can basically become the prime version of Bucks Brook Lopez. Which is DPOY level All-Star.

    Hands are questionable, but I'll take that. Gobert became a 3-time All-Star with butterfingers.
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    not taking Maluach at 14

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    Are you saying you would take Maluach with pick 14 if there? I would pass. Are you high on Maluach as a prospect? You are not really saying much lol. Where do you rank him in this class?
    A consensus top 10 player and you would pass on him if he slipped to 14? Instead you’re arguing for a guy 3 years older that’s projected in the mid to late 20’s? Say you don’t know basketball without saying you don’t know basketball.

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    Raynaud scored 8 points against Maluach and 8 when he wasn't on the floor. So again where did he cook him? When Maluach blocked his ass at the rim? Or when Maluach dunked the ball as a roller multiple times while Raynaud was out of position to guard him? Asking ChatGPT for help ain't it dude.





    I already posted my thoughts on Maluach multiple times.

    His rebounding and block numbers are inflated because he plays in a hedge scheme.

    He has great touch around the rim, which there's a lot of tape on. He has flashes of shooting from 3, midrange and even turnaround fadeaways. He shoots when playing for Sudan. Great FT%. Standing reach only 1 inch shorter than Wemby's.

    Played basketball for only 5 years. Never had access to a practice facility until he went to Duke. Improves and picks up things rapidly.

    Moves fluid, but gets caught with his feet in the wrong position often, which means he needs to be taught more defensive fundamentals. There's tape where he's able to guard guards and he has a large margin for error because of his length.

    Highest dunk rate of a prospect since 2008. Plays above the rim. His floor is basically Clint Capela. He can basically become the prime version of Bucks Brook Lopez. Which is DPOY level All-Star.

    Hands are questionable, but I'll take that. Gobert became a 3-time All-Star with butterfingers.
    So you are pulling up highlights. That’s not the game tape. Maybe you don’t have access to the All 10. I forget everyone uses YouTube. I’ve also posted my opinion on Malauch several times. He has very good feet and Duke was a good program for him to learn at. He had alot of people setting him up for all those dunks. Chat GPT? wtf lol try harder. I’m too old school to know how to use whatever that is. I don’t need anyone to speak on my behalf I’m well educated.

    Hedge system has very little to do with him getting pushed off spots, struggling against skilled players or being slow to react on contests.

    I have him Ranked 17th. 4th tier in a good class. He has potential but he is still learning. I have stated my opinion multiple times. I think the Spurs should stay away from projects. Personally I don’t believe he is a good fit next to Wemby. So if the Spurs drafted him he would be a backup big unless he develops a shot and a handle. Even a limited handle would go a long way. It’s very possible he develops into a really good starting caliber player but he needs work. He needs minutes. Minutes he won’t get on the spurs.
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    A consensus top 10 player and you would pass on him if he slipped to 14? Instead you’re arguing for a guy 3 years older that’s projected in the mid to late 20’s? Say you don’t know basketball without saying you don’t know basketball.
    I’m not arguing for anyone in particular. I just don’t think the Spurs should pick him. I also don’t think he will make it to 14 because of his upside. So it’s all a moot point. I don’t have him as a top 10 player. Consensus among the media? Yeah I don’t care about that. I have him higher on my board than Maxime Raynaud by the way. I would lose my job if I didn’t know basketball. I’ve been around the game my entire life. I’m very thankful and blessed for that. Favorite Sport by far.
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    I think Sorber can actually play with Wemby some. He can’t shoot but he has some handle. Untapped creation ability. It’s not great but it’s passable. I’m on the record saying I would not pick Raynaud at 14 but I would understand why the Spurs do it. Asa Newell is also a better fit. The only Big I really want at 14 is Sorber though. Maluach I would take it but it’s just not what I would do. Beringer and Wolf would be disappointing.

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    If Sorber is off the board. Coward and Clifford both make sense. They both rebound extremely well. Clifford is probably the most ready prospect. He can do it all. His only knock is his age. Coward has a high floor. Still needs some fine tuning but you can always fall back on his shot.

    If the Spurs flag both Coward and Sorber for injury and they don’t like Clifford because of his age. I’m not sure what I would do but can’t go wrong with best player available.

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    I’m not arguing for anyone in particular. I just don’t think the Spurs should pick him. I also don’t think he will make it to 14 because of his upside. So it’s all a moot point. I don’t have him as a top 10 player. Consensus among the media? Yeah I don’t care about that. I have him higher on my board than Maxime Raynaud by the way. I would lose my job if I didn’t know basketball. I’ve been around the game my entire life. I’m very thankful and blessed for that. Favorite Sport by far.
    I've been listening to your opinion quite a bit as it just seemed to me you do something along these lines for your work. I was even going to ask what job you do a few days ago (Was just going to ask a general description not specifics. I'm not asking now btw, as I respect people's privacy to not get them to post that on a public forum). Would be awesome to be doing something Basketball related for a living. I'd even be happy just doing something like lower level player development staff.

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    I've been listening to your opinion quite a bit as it just seemed to me you do something along these lines for your work. I was even going to ask what job you do a few days ago (Was just going to ask a general description not specifics. I'm not asking now btw, as I respect people's privacy to not get them to post that on a public forum). Would be awesome to be doing something Basketball related for a living. I'd even be happy just doing something like lower level player development staff.

    I don’t work in talent evaluation I want to make that clear. Just doing that for fun. I will probably be wrong about most of these prospects lol and I’m okay with that. I like sharing my opinions whether people like them or not. But yes I’m around basketball. Plenty of opportunities out there these days.

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    The Khaman hate around here is crazy. He looks as good as a prospect as any at Center in the draft. We going to have Wemby taking a beating all day trying to play down low on defense? Taking up floor space on offense? How about the space those two would eat up on defense? I am going to assume people just don't believe in Khaman specifically and think he is going to turn out a bust or something. And that's fine but in any case the Spurs can definitely use a better Center.

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    Not even sure why we’re really discussing Maluach in this thread tbh He’s almost a guarantee to be gone by 14.

    In terms of trading up, I personally don’t think he’s so much better than Sorber (assuming the Spurs think his foot is a non-issue) that it’d be worthwhile to trade meaningful assets to move up for Maluach.

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    So you are pulling up highlights. That’s not the game tape. Maybe you don’t have access to the All 10. I forget everyone uses YouTube. I’ve also posted my opinion on Malauch several times. He has very good feet and Duke was a good program for him to learn at. He had alot of people setting him up for all those dunks. Chat GPT? wtf lol try harder. I’m too old school to know how to use whatever that is. I don’t need anyone to speak on my behalf I’m well educated.

    Hedge system has very little to do with him getting pushed off spots, struggling against skilled players or being slow to react on contests.

    I have him Ranked 17th. 4th tier in a good class. He has potential but he is still learning. I have stated my opinion multiple times. I think the Spurs should stay away from projects. Personally I don’t believe he is a good fit next to Wemby. So if the Spurs drafted him he would be a backup big unless he develops a shot and a handle. Even a limited handle would go a long way. It’s very possible he develops into a really good starting caliber player but he needs work. He needs minutes. Minutes he won’t get on the spurs.
    You should buy yourself some glasses

    Much was made of the matchup against likely all-conference selection Maxime Raynaud heading into Saturday, as the star center figured to be a tough matchup for freshman big Khaman Maluach. However, the youngster won the first matchup of the day, forcing a turnover on Stanford’s first possession and slamming down a lob on the other end of the floor.

    Raynaud had some answers of his own in the early going. The Paris native knocked down two triples before the first media timeout despite entering the contest having made just one of his last 15 attempts from downtown. Inside the arc though, the senior was troubled by Duke’s size and length. Maluach, Brown and Mason Gillis took turns making life difficult for the big man, as he went 0-for-5 on 2-point attempts to begin.

    By the time the final buzzer had sounded, Raynaud had racked up 19 points and seven rebounds. Despite the lofty totals, Duke forced him into several tough shots. The center put up 21 attempts — nine from three — from the field in the losing effort.

    “Raynaud is a tough cover. They do some really good things for him, but the fact that he scored 19 on 21 shots, that's really what you want,” head coach Jon Scheyer said.

    The Maluach-Brown combo worked in perfect tandem all afternoon. Both bigs leaned on their respective skill sets to defend Raynaud and help Duke take a commanding lead. Maluach added several thunderous dunks inside and Brown multiple dimes to Proctor as head coach Jon Scheyer used them interchangeably.

    Maluach in particular had a large impact on the contest. The Rumbek, South Sudan, native found himself in excellent position down low, and his teammates kept feeding him for open dunks. He also had his way on the offensive glass; four of Maluach’s six boards were offensive.

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    Not even sure why we’re really discussing Maluach in this thread tbh He’s almost a guarantee to be gone by 14.

    In terms of trading up, I personally don’t think he’s so much better than Sorber (assuming the Spurs think his foot is a non-issue) that it’d be worthwhile to trade meaningful assets to move up for Maluach.
    I’m agnostic on the player, but I wonder if the thinking is that if Maluach gets past Toronto (or Phoenix) at 9, that the next team that would take him are Bulls at 12. Maybe that’s the trade up opportunity?

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    You should buy yourself some glasses
    What lol?! Did you copy and paste an article. Yeah I’m moving on. We disagree on Maluach with certain aspects and that is fine.

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    Not even sure why we’re really discussing Maluach in this thread tbh He’s almost a guarantee to be gone by 14.

    In terms of trading up, I personally don’t think he’s so much better than Sorber (assuming the Spurs think his foot is a non-issue) that it’d be worthwhile to trade meaningful assets to move up for Maluach.
    Probably because of reports the Spurs brought him in twice. Anybody else the Spurs met with twice besides Harper? When’s the last time the Spurs brought someone in twice that they didn’t have an interest in?

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