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The two second rounders wouldn't have gotten it down. The 2012 pick would only have gotten it done by putting less protection on the pick than Charlotte is willing to do.
Bottom line, you wouldn't have offered assets that would have definitely swung the trade for Spurs.
We have surrendered.
Wait, Charlotte's pick was protected too?..
IMO Spurs have all the assets to make these kind of trades. However they might lack the aggression it takes to get it done. As far as a remember Spurs FO has never been the aggressive negotiator type. More of "if the opportunity is there"
Nothing you said changes my point.
Standing pat is not the worst option.
A bad trade is the worst option.
The FO is great at drafting, but they haven't shown to be worth a damn when it comes to trading. Are there even any remarkable trades in this FO's tenure? There are definitely more failures than positives.
I didn't think than giving a first round pick for Thomas was a smart idea. I'm quite happy Spurs haven't done it and I hope they have something else under their wings.
I totally understand and share your frustration. What pisses me off is that other, more inferior organizations, have upgraded their talent levels or shaved off salary. Other teams have gotten things done and the Spurs have causally done nothing. It's not as though this team doesn't have its roster warts and could afford to simply stand pat. For the first time in a few years, they actually had some assets to use in various trade scenarios and none have been used.
Again, I didn't expect for the Spurs to pull off anything miraculous. This was just a matter of improving the talent level now to prevent a bottoming out later.
Let's stop fooling ourselves. This team isn't going to challenge for either a le or a deep playoff run. They're simply not equipped to do so. If the deadline passes and they've not upgrade the roster, I predict this team will take a freefall into the draft lottery.
Salmons/Thomas for Mason Finley Bonner and a 1st is not a bad trade. They obviously could have gotten that done.
They could have got Marcus Camby for expirings and a 1st rounder. That didn't get done.
They could have improved the team enough to compete with the Lakers had they included a late first round pick. But they didn't. They obviously think George Hill and DeJuan Blair come out of the draft every year from where they always tend to draft from.
I hope you're right but the pickings are slim at this point.
So ummm, is there anything worthwhile in the D-league for a 10-day tryout?
tyrus to charlotte
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
Any chance Charlotte will flip Thomas to us? I'm dreaming, I know, but not much else to do at this point.
Charlotte pilling up on talent, damn
Marc J. Spears, Y! Sports: "Y! Sports has learned Bobcats get Tyrus Thomas(notes) from Bulls for Flip Murray(notes), Acie Law(notes) and future 1st round pick. [...] Nuggets tried hard to get Thomas, but Charlotte had more attractive pick."
IMO, those are bad trades. You're welcome to an opposing opinion, but those trades both have very certain costs and very uncertain benefits.
Damn, after seeing what other teams are giving up, I can't believe the Spurs could not get anything done to improve the team. They better not let all these expiring contracts expire without getting something out of them.
I'm depressed now. I was hoping for a Thomas/Salmons trade. That would have helped now and in the future.
Not sure where all this activity leaves the Spurs now. As people mentioned earlier, is there anything out there that would help anymore?
Marcus camby? What kind of bad mushrooms are you on?
Yuck.
If Boris Diaw wouldn't have turned into a fat slob, the Bobcats wouldn't be so desperate for a PF.
I wonder if the Spurs were at least in second place.
I think they are now the sleepers that might have the ability to cause damage and make a run on some teams this year. I wish I could say it was the Spurs...
If you can allow me to dream for a second, Amare would help...
So no mention that the Spurs even made a strong offer?..
Who exactly was the FO going after?..Lebron?..
Hasn't he been a fat slob since that big contract Phoenix gave him?
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