Fischer: Spurs Repeatedly Mentioned By NBA Figures As Potential Home For Young

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Granham's contract is just $2M guaranteed for the next season, Hawks have no reason to take it.

Any trade involving Spurs trading away first rounders simply must have Collins also going away. We have to get rid of him, he's a detriment to the team.

If they are tanking sure they do. They are not trying to take back their draft picks AND improve their team. It is one or the other.

[TD 21]

lol "excoriate"



Why not?



What's this supossed act of me?



Winning one when everyone thought he and his team were past their prime and nobody expected them to win I would consider a "magnus opus", tbh.



Durant, the same guy without whom Curry won one before and one after? Durant, the same guy that hasn't won without Curry holding his hand? That Durant?

Also, how does this "unprecedented" break catching plays a part on Curry grading as, arguably, the most impactful player of all time at his peak?



Because you clearly are being disingenuous. You speak about Durant holding Curry's hand, when it is the other way around. Durant is the guy that can't ring without Steph. You also cry about "unprecedented" injury luck, when the truth is that they had "unprecedente" injury luck one time, and even then, they probably would have won it all, with or without it.

P/S: you erase the "like" by pressing the button again.

Because you can't possibly see it from the same lens the same way I couldn't if the shoe were on the other foot.

Your personality.

Won by beating decimated teams repeatedly (if only Durant, Paul, etc. could have switched places with him), which doesn't have anything to do with the fact that anyone who knew anything about this league knew they'd be starting on the 2 yard line if Durant joined them.

The "unprecedented" opponent injury luck was the lifeblood of his accomplishments and at thinking a small guard could ever have GOAT impact when their stature inherently limits the amount of areas they can influence.

Durant won the 2 Finals MVP's and was widely considered better before, during and after their time together. It's only since '22 when the Curry fanboys started to play the revisionist history game. By the way, I couldn't stand Durant since before it became fashionable to.

I actually respect your knowledge too.

[Proxy]

SA isn't going to draft a PG that hits Trae's level, the dude has been top 2 in assists all season, and we already know he's clutch in the playoffs as the number one option. He'd be sidekick to wemby here, sounds like he understands that by the interviews he's given this season. If Wemby is really in a win now mentality, then making this move would probably go a long way in him staying here all career too.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

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[DAF86]

Because you can't possibly see it from the same lens the same way I couldn't if the shoe were on the other foot.

And whose to say your view of the situation is the correct one? I'm not saying mine is either, but if anything I can be at least impartial seeing it as a from a 3rd World country. Like I responded to Chinook, we have Jordan, Iverson, Shaq, Lebron and a bunch of other players that for different reasons wouldn't appeal to the white audience. Yet, they are some of the most popular players in history. So maybe this theory about "lightskin" isn't as solid as you think it is, tbh.

Your personality.

The 's that supposed to mean? What about my personality screams "I love light skinned guards"?

Won by beating decimated teams repeatedly (if only Durant, Paul, etc. could have switched places with him), which doesn't have anything to do with the fact that anyone who knew anything about this league knew they'd be starting on the 2 yard line if Durant joined them.

The "unprecedented" opponent injury luck was the lifeblood of his accomplishments and at thinking a small guard could ever have GOAT impact when their stature inherently limits the amount of areas they can influence.

Durant won the 2 Finals MVP's and was widely considered better before, during and after their time together. It's only since '22 when the Curry fanboys started to play the revisionist history game. By the way, I couldn't stand Durant since before it became fashionable to.

I actually respect your knowledge too.

We'll never get on the same page about Curry's place among the all-time greats, tbh.

[DAF86]

Because you can't possibly see it from the same lens the same way I couldn't if the shoe were on the other foot.

And whose to say your view of the situation is the correct one? I'm not saying mine is either, but if anything I can be at least impartial seeing it as a from a 3rd World country. Like I responded to Chinook, we have Jordan, Iverson, Shaq, Lebron and a bunch of other players that for different reasons wouldn't appeal to the white audience. Yet, they are some of the most popular players in history. So maybe this theory about "lightskin" isn't as solid as you think it is, tbh.

Your personality.

The 's that supposed to mean? What about my personality screams "I love light skinned guards"?

Won by beating decimated teams repeatedly (if only Durant, Paul, etc. could have switched places with him), which doesn't have anything to do with the fact that anyone who knew anything about this league knew they'd be starting on the 2 yard line if Durant joined them.

The "unprecedented" opponent injury luck was the lifeblood of his accomplishments and at thinking a small guard could ever have GOAT impact when their stature inherently limits the amount of areas they can influence.

Durant won the 2 Finals MVP's and was widely considered better before, during and after their time together. It's only since '22 when the Curry fanboys started to play the revisionist history game. By the way, I couldn't stand Durant since before it became fashionable to.

I actually respect your knowledge too.

We'll never get on the same page about Curry's place among the all-time greats, tbh.

[Dejounte]

And whose to say your view of the situation is the correct one? I'm not saying mine is either, but if anything I can be at least impartial seeing it as a from a 3rd World country. Like I responded to Chinook, we have Jordan, Iverson, Shaq, Lebron and a bunch of other players that for different reasons wouldn't appeal to the white audience. Yet, they are some of the most popular players in history. So maybe this theory about "lightskin" isn't as solid as you think it is, tbh.



The 's that supposed to mean? What about my personality screams "I love light skinned guards"?



We'll never get on the same page about Curry's place among the all-time greats, tbh.

Shut up, racist.


…I’m ing with you.

[DAF86]

SA isn't going to draft a PG that hits Trae's level, the dude has been top 2 in assists all season, and we already know he's clutch in the playoffs as the number one option. He'd be sidekick to wemby here, sounds like he understands that by the interviews he's given this season. If Wemby is really in a win now mentality, then making this move would probably go a long way in him staying here all career too.

Didn't care to double check, but I think Trae's shooting 29% from 3 in the playoffs and in around 40% overall.

[DAF86]

Shut up, racist.


…I’m ing with you.

I mean, Trae is a light skinned guard and yall don't see me precisely lobbying for the guy, tbh.

[Mr. Body]

I mean, Trae is a light skinned guard and yall don't see me precisely lobbying for the guy, tbh.

Trae looks like a pool hall sharp who's going to hustle you for money. Curry looks like a kid your daughter brings home from high school.

[mo7888]

Didn't care to double check, but I think Trae's shooting 29% from 3 in the playoffs and in around 40% overall.

35.7% regular season 3 pt %

29.4 post season 3 pt %

[TD 21]

And whose to say your view of the situation is the correct one? I'm not saying mine is either, but if anything I can be at least impartial seeing it as a from a 3rd World country. Like I responded to Chinook, we have Jordan, Iverson, Shaq, Lebron and a bunch of other players that for different reasons wouldn't appeal to the white audience. Yet, they are some of the most popular players in history. So maybe this theory about "lightskin" isn't as solid as you think it is, tbh.



The 's that supposed to mean? What about my personality screams "I love light skinned guards"?



We'll never get on the same page about Curry's place among the all-time greats, tbh.

I can't explain this to you any further (at least in a way that won't come off unintended) other than to say even Chinook agreed with me, which should tell you all you need to know.

It was a joke that you're taking far too serious.

[DAF86]

I can't explain this to you any further (at least in a way that won't come off unintended) other than to say even Chinook agreed with me, which should tell you all you need to know.

It was a joke that you're taking far too serious.

I know what yall trying to say, I was just trying for you to say it outright so I could hit you with the comeback, tbh.

This about "only certain people can talk about certain things" is pretty bull , tbh. Anyone can talk about anything. In fact, that should be the prefered way, because that way you can get input from all types of different points of view.

But anyway, I'm not trying to get philosophical here. Back to basketball.

[Proxy]

Didn't care to double check, but I think Trae's shooting 29% from 3 in the playoffs and in around 40% overall.

I hear you, I'm thinking more eye test, not being scared of the moment, his series against the knicks kind of stuff. The volume shooting and inefficiencies... you've got me there, can't argue with that. I'd hope those shooting numbers would improve with him being in a beneficiary position to Vic instead of the focus of the playoff defensive schemes. I like the idea of the team having a compe ive at ude overall with him, sochan, and wemby

[TD 21]

I know what yall trying to say, I was just trying for you to say it outright so I could hit you with the comeback, tbh.

This about "only certain people can talk about certain things" is pretty bull , tbh. Anyone can talk about anything. In fact, that should be the prefered way, because that way you can get input from all types of different points of view.

But anyway, I'm not trying to get philosophical here. Back to basketball.

With certain things, you've got to be able to walk a mile in the shoes to truly understand the perspective.

[CorrectCrusader]

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[DAF86]

With certain things, you've got to be able to walk a mile in the shoes to truly understand the perspective.

To understand that very specific perspective, sure. I can still give my perspective from where I'm at.

[Frenchfred]

Granham's contract is just $2M guaranteed for the next season, Hawks have no reason to take it.

Any trade involving Spurs trading away first rounders simply must have Collins also going away. We have to get rid of him, he's a detriment to the team.

if they trade before july 1st, then Graham is counting for 12 millions with only 2 guaranteed next year so that would be pretty much an expiring.

[Chinook]

Granham's contract is just $2M guaranteed for the next season, Hawks have no reason to take it.

Any trade involving Spurs trading away first rounders simply must have Collins also going away. We have to get rid of him, he's a detriment to the team.

The $2ish Million from Graham's contract is important for a team that doesn't have that much cap space. Don't underestimate the chances the Spurs pay a second for some team to get rid of it.

if they trade before july 1st, then Graham is counting for 12 millions with only 2 guaranteed next year so that would be pretty much an expiring.

Nah, that loophole was closed years ago. It only counts for the guaranteed portion now that the trade deadline has passed.

[Frenchfred]

Thy change the rules every few years about salary matching so I just go to the various trade calculators and work out permutations. Keldon and Graham would not be enough. Hawks would still need to take on salary themselves.

A nontaxe paying team can trade one or more players and take back 125% of the outgoing salary (plus $100K), for any amount above $19,600,000. Keldon and Graham before July 1st are 32 millions meaning that the Spurs can receive 40 millions; Trae’s salary. The Hawks get an expiring and Keldon’s contract, which is pretty decent and decreasing. That gives them 20 millions of cap spce that they can use to take another contracts for picks

[Chinook]

Keldon and Graham before July 1st are 32 millions

No. Graham's guarantee is the only thing that counts for the Spurs' side of the matching equation. It doesn't matter if it's before or after July 1 (ignoring that the guarantee probably has a trigger date somewhere between 06/25 and 07/10). That was specifically changed two CBAs ago. For Atlanta, the full salary counts, so the Hawks couldn't just take him for nothing. But if the Spurs want his salary to count, they'd have to guarantee it.

[Frenchfred]

No. Graham's guarantee is the only thing that counts. It doesn't matter if it's before or after July 1 (ignoring that the guarantee probably has a trigger date somewhere between 06/25 and 07/10). That was specifically changed two CBAs ago.

sorry, I saw your post after I posted mine. Typing a phone. So I guess that the Hawks have to take Collins.

[objective]

Can't let Wright waste those picks on Primos with obvious locks like Sengun on the board. Trade those picks for Trae before Wright screws it all up

[RC_Drunkford]

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[Bruno]

https://streamable.com/e6txxj

That's interesting, thanks for posting.

Young is basically saying "I want to stay but you have to put a good team around me". It's a kinda similar talk to what Lillard said a year ago. When he saw what Portland did in the draft and the FA market, he asked to be traded. In Atlanta case, a big factor will be their willingness to pay the luxury tax. If they don't want to pay it, they won't even be able to re-sign Saddiq Bey this summer.

Hawks won't trade Young unless he asks to be traded. Young clearly isn't asking to be traded right now but he is putting pressure on the ownership and FO with a departure threat.