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    PG13 declined his option

    Might be nothing for us... but who knows...

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    In b4 Paul George

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    PG13 declined his option

    Might be nothing for us... but who knows...
    I believe that puts him out of the running for a lot of contending teams.

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    I wouldn't mind signing Paul George, but he's probably just putting pressure on the Clippers to give him the max

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    PG...interesting

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    I believe that puts him out of the running for a lot of contending teams.
    Yup...there's only four or 5 counting us left I believe.. curious as to what he's thinking..

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    I wouldn't mind signing Paul George, but he's probably just putting pressure on the Clippers to give him the max
    Does it give him more leverage there with only a few teams left instead of having the S&T option?

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    Forgot Sixers have the space to offer him, yeah? That'd shift things a lot.

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    He's been inefficient and underwhelming his whole career, had high salary expectations before getting traded from Detroit, and now comes off an ACL injury. He wasn't a bargain even before he got injured, now I wouldn't touch him with a 10 ft pole
    I'm fairly certain he was their second choice to Vassell in '20, but he's basically a higher profile/pedigree, more expensive, somewhat delusional version of Champagnie.

    Since it make no sense to go the Collins route with him, it shouldn't be ruled out.

    Jones, Castle, Wesley
    Vassell, Branham, Champangie
    Johnson, Cissoko
    Sochan, Ingram
    Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey
    Sochan, Osman (UFA), Mamukelashvili (RFA), Ingram, Cissoko, Gray (TW)
    Champagnie, Johnson
    Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey (NG), Barlow (RFA)
    Vassell, Branham, Duke Jr. (RFA)
    Jones, Castle, Wesley, Graham (PG), Bouyea (TW)

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    What we can't happen is LAC sucking and OKC getting their unprotected pick next year.

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    George may not have trusted the Clippers to trade him if he opted in. Though it's been reported his adamant about getting a four-year deal, and couldn't do that off an extend-and-trade deal.

    One thing to note is if the Clippers receive any salary back from a potential sign-and-trade, they are hard-capped at the second apron. Maybe that's not a huge deal with PG off the books and Harden a free agent. Since Keith is stupid-fast with his updates, it looks like LAC has $61 Million to play with 10 players under contract and not counting whatever players they drafted. If Harden signs the max, he'll basically take up all that. He probably will take less, but will he take so much less that the Clippers can take back meaningful salary? I don't think so. But if George walks and Harden goes elsewhere, what do the Clippers do? They have Kawhi and nothing else.

    What this means for the Spurs is that if they want PG, they might have to make cap space for him or find other teams to take salary (which basically the same thing). I've said before they're about a Johnson, Graham and Branham away from a max slot. People's pet trade of sending Keldon to Detroit seems off the table with them drafting another forward. The Magic might want him, but I wouldn't count on it given the strength of their front court already.

    With this opt-out decision, I don't know if there's a reasonable path for the Spurs to acquire George, and the same issues exist for most other teams. The restriction to receive a player if you're S&Ting a guy a way is in the second apron, but first-apron teams cannot receive a signed-and-traded player. That's fine for the Spurs, if their goal is to receive George (besides the issues I've outlined), but it's not fine for the potential of them being a third team in a deal where they get compensated for helping a capless team make ends meet.

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    I had to come on ST when I saw PG13 decelined his option...

    Do you guys think it's realistic?

    He'd have to change is game and lower his averages, but who knows maybe last big deal means he wouldn't care much?

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    Def would prefer for PG-13 to re-sign with the Clips. Don't want OKC getting a top pick in next years draft.

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    Does it give him more leverage there with only a few teams left instead of having the S&T option?
    of course since he wants a 4-year deal and not a one year opt in

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    What’s funny and it shows money talks… 76ers are probably the favorites to sign PG13 even after they just screwed PG13 teammate James Harden by not paying him whatever contract Harden thought/promised that Morey would offer.

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    The Clippers will pay him. This is him posturing to get what he can out of them. He wants to stay on the West Coast.

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    11088740[/URL]]how much is coming out of YOUR pocket?
    My point is the Spurs didn’t clutch their pearls when it came to opening their wallet to Vassell. They should be open to paying the Robin aka #2 option 50 million dollars, it’s just how the NBA is nowadays.

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    George's APY is going to be twice that of Vassell's. Folks need to stop thinking that Devin got some huge deal.

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    11088795[/URL]]The Clippers will pay him. This is him posturing to get what he can out of them. He wants to stay on the West Coast.
    I agree…he cares more about LA and podcasting than winning. Nephew is there to take the hit when they fail again.

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    11088801[/URL]]George's APY is going to be twice that of Vassell's. Folks need to stop thinking that Devin got some huge deal.
    It is the largest contract ever given out for the franchise. I don’t dislike it, but others need to recognize these players are going to make a lot more money than before.

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    of course since he wants a 4-year deal and not a one year opt in
    But they could have already agreed to that...

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    Collins to det for cha first should be enough both for det and PG if PG wanted to be here

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    It will be Philly or LAC for PG13. Honestly kind of hope it's Philly because that will be a fun team in the short term (like 1-2 years, a 3max player construction surely can't work for long).

    Zero chance a guy like PG13 comes to a team like San Antonio, who is actively avoiding taking opportunities to add talent to its team. PG13 ain't going to failing rebuilding projects.

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    Collins to det for cha first should be enough both for det and PG if PG wanted to be here
    It's actually pretty short, and I don't think CHA25 is close to enough to take Collins into cap space.

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    It's actually pretty short, and I don't think CHA25 is close to enough to take Collins into cap space.
    Det took 3 2nds for THJ and gave up a player in return that has value to do it. I think it’s fair considering Zach likely has on value to teams still and it’s a shot at a first.

    But how is 26+15M short on PG?

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