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    I'd really like Johnson here..
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    I'd really like Johnson here..
    Just begs for the "bend over, I'll give you a Johnson" line.

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    #3 in some package for Bridges makes a lot of sense and has been one of the more obvious possibilities since the lottery draw... wonder if this is real or just media making the same obvious observations as others (like this board... we hypothesized a move like this from the get go).

    Brooklyn moving ahead of us would suck, because they're kind of like WAS and can go any direction, as opposed to HOU who has more limited needs and pathways ahead of us.

    I always thought both Cams (Johnson and Thomas) would be a good fit here. Johnson as a starting PF and Thomas as a 6th man sparkplug. The Nets may look to monetize those pieces if they can get a significant amount of their own draft capital back from Houston so they can start building their own warchest.

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    #3 in some package for Bridges makes a lot of sense and has been one of the more obvious possibilities since the lottery draw... wonder if this is real or just media making the same obvious observations as others (like this board... we hypothesized a move like this from the get go).

    Brooklyn moving ahead of us would suck, because they're kind of like WAS and can go any direction, as opposed to HOU who has more limited needs and pathways ahead of us.

    I always thought both Cams (Johnson and Thomas) would be a good fit here. Johnson as a starting PF and Thomas as a 6th man sparkplug. The Nets may look to monetize those pieces if they can get a significant amount of their own draft capital back from Houston so they can start building their own warchest.
    I like both to, CT is coming into a contract year so I didn't include him. I stuck with the more cost controlled player who's a bigger need. I also figure that Brooklyn will not want to aggregate them because they can get more separately.

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    Then that leaves Cam Johnson. I'd offer Zollins (who actually wouldn't be bad for them on a short contract) + #8, + Cha + 2 more 2nds. Then I'd be prepared to offer another first a few years down the road.

    Cam would fit next to Sochan and Wemby better than anyone on the draft.
    Another 1st would be an overpay for an injury prone, low end starter. As much as his shooting would be needed, he'd also add another scrawny type who plays small.

    Brooklyn moving ahead of us would suck, because they're kind of like WAS and can go any direction, as opposed to HOU who has more limited needs and pathways ahead of us.

    I always thought both Cams (Johnson and Thomas) would be a good fit here. Johnson as a starting PF and Thomas as a 6th man sparkplug. The Nets may look to monetize those pieces if they can get a significant amount of their own draft capital back from Houston so they can start building their own warchest.
    If anything, it'd probably be a good thing since they'd probably be more likely to select Castle or maybe even Clingan than Sheppard.

    Johnson is more of an SF and Thomas is the an hesis of Spurs material.

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    The guy at Utility Sports suggested we trade #4 Wesley/Branham and a few 2nds to go up two spots for the #2 pick in the draft to ensure we get Sarr or Risarchet which isnt a bad idea.

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    Thinking a little creatively about ATL and if they want to get their picks back so they can tank... What about:

    ATL Gets: #8 overall in 2024, all three of their picks back, Keldon, Collins
    SA Gets: #1 overall in 2024, Trae/Dejounte (take your pick. If Dejounte, then only Collins goes out).

    Spurs get to take Risacher (who isn't atop my board, but probably requires the #1 pick to get) and whoever they might have been targeting at 4. Let's say it's Sheppard for now.

    Atlanta gets to start their true rebuild and still get a Top 10 pick this year to help.

    Just a different, wacky idea.

    Trae/Tre
    Vassell/Sheppard
    Risacher/Champ
    Sochan/TBD
    Wemby/Bassey

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    The guy at Utility Sports suggested we trade #4 Wesley/Branham and a few 2nds to go up two spots for the #2 pick in the draft to ensure we get Sarr or Risarchet which isnt a bad idea.
    I'd love to trade #4 plus dog to move up to #2 but no idea why Washington would do that deal.

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    Thinking a little creatively about ATL and if they want to get their picks back so they can tank... What about:

    ATL Gets: #8 overall in 2024, all three of their picks back, Keldon, Collins
    SA Gets: #1 overall in 2024, Trae/Dejounte (take your pick. If Dejounte, then only Collins goes out).

    Spurs get to take Risacher (who isn't atop my board, but probably requires the #1 pick to get) and whoever they might have been targeting at 4. Let's say it's Sheppard for now.

    Atlanta gets to start their true rebuild and still get a Top 10 pick this year to help.

    Just a different, wacky idea.

    Trae/Tre
    Vassell/Sheppard
    Risacher/Champ
    Sochan/TBD
    Wemby/Bassey
    I like the concept of getting #1, but I don't believe I could give up the 25 atl pick.

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    Considering the usual Hornets 1st, Graham and filler (Wesley, 2nd(s), etc.) for Brogdon package sounds light . . .

    To Hornets: Johnson

    To Trail Blazers: Bertans, Heat (via Hornets) lottery protected '27 1st, Wesley

    To Spurs: Brogdon . . . contingent on him agreeing to something like a 2/$40-45M extension, with the second season around half guaranteed.

    Basically, the Spurs would be choosing to retain their "real" 1sts (all of which are too valuable for an aging, injury prone player) over Johnson and come out close to cap neutral (+$3M), mostly preserving the remaining space to pursue a replacement.

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    Considering the usual Hornets 1st, Graham and filler (Wesley, 2nd(s), etc.) for Brogdon package sounds light . . .

    To Hornets: Johnson

    To Trail Blazers: Bertans, Heat (via Hornets) lottery protected '27 1st, Wesley

    To Spurs: Brogdon . . . contingent on him agreeing to something like a 2/$40-45M extension, with the second season around half guaranteed.

    Basically, the Spurs would be choosing to retain their "real" 1sts (all of which are too valuable for an aging, injury prone player) over Johnson and come out close to cap neutral (+$3M), mostly preserving the remaining space to pursue a replacement.
    Personally I would pass. Part of the appeal of Brogdon, to me, is that he is only a 1-year stopgap rental. Adding two years of that decreases, not increases, his value to me.

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    A rando suggested the following:
    Spurs trade #4, #8, keldon Johnson, tre jones, sochan and I think Wesley for jimmy butler and Nikola Jovic. To me it’s a trade that doesn’t make sense for both teams. But feel free to discuss.

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    Makes no sense. Butler contract ending and he is demanding a max extension. Blowing your load on an aging star demanding even more. Great player when healthy. Playoff monster too, for now.

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    Personally I would pass. Part of the appeal of Brogdon, to me, is that he is only a 1-year stopgap rental. Adding two years of that decreases, not increases, his value to me.
    It'd be one fully guaranteed season on the extension, with the second essentially making him a valuable trade chip (even if he is in decline by then) for matching salary purposes.

    Even if they luck into Traore or whoever in '25, they're going to want a veteran around and he's both better and more malleable than Jones.

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    Thinking a little creatively about ATL and if they want to get their picks back so they can tank... What about:

    ATL Gets: #8 overall in 2024, all three of their picks back, Keldon, Collins
    SA Gets: #1 overall in 2024, Trae/Dejounte (take your pick. If Dejounte, then only Collins goes out).

    Spurs get to take Risacher (who isn't atop my board, but probably requires the #1 pick to get) and whoever they might have been targeting at 4. Let's say it's Sheppard for now.

    Atlanta gets to start their true rebuild and still get a Top 10 pick this year to help.

    Just a different, wacky idea.

    Trae/Tre
    Vassell/Sheppard
    Risacher/Champ
    Sochan/TBD
    Wemby/Bassey
    Very creative and practical! I wouldn't be mad at this. If the Spurs want to capitalize on the 2025 draft, then they should keep those Hawks picks.

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    Michael Porter Jr has the same agent as McDermott and Zach Collins. Maybe a change of scenery can unlock him to a higher level. He appears to be over himself nowadays. Plus he is still only 25.

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    Thinking a little creatively about ATL and if they want to get their picks back so they can tank... What about:

    ATL Gets: #8 overall in 2024, all three of their picks back, Keldon, Collins
    SA Gets: #1 overall in 2024, Trae/Dejounte (take your pick. If Dejounte, then only Collins goes out).

    Spurs get to take Risacher (who isn't atop my board, but probably requires the #1 pick to get) and whoever they might have been targeting at 4. Let's say it's Sheppard for now.

    Atlanta gets to start their true rebuild and still get a Top 10 pick this year to help.

    Just a different, wacky idea.

    Trae/Tre
    Vassell/Sheppard
    Risacher/Champ
    Sochan/TBD
    Wemby/Bassey
    If Spurs love Risacher I’d rather them just use 4 and 8 to move up to 2 and get him while keeping all the ATL picks.

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    Michael Porter Jr has the same agent as McDermott and Zach Collins. Maybe a change of scenery can unlock him to a higher level. He appears to be over himself nowadays. Plus he is still only 25.
    On all of these MPJ projections, what ate we thinking we give up to get him and his contract?

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    Thinking a little creatively about ATL and if they want to get their picks back so they can tank... What about:

    ATL Gets: #8 overall in 2024, all three of their picks back, Keldon, Collins
    SA Gets: #1 overall in 2024, Trae/Dejounte (take your pick. If Dejounte, then only Collins goes out).

    Spurs get to take Risacher (who isn't atop my board, but probably requires the #1 pick to get) and whoever they might have been targeting at 4. Let's say it's Sheppard for now.

    Atlanta gets to start their true rebuild and still get a Top 10 pick this year to help.

    Just a different, wacky idea.

    Trae/Tre
    Vassell/Sheppard
    Risacher/Champ
    Sochan/TBD
    Wemby/Bassey
    The only way I would do this (and I dont want to do this at all) is if SA both gets Trae and keeps 8 in this scenario. I still wouldn’t like it, but if ATL wants their 3 picks back, they can give us 1 + Trae (I know they wouldn’t do it, but that’s only way Im doing it if Im SA)

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    The only way I would do this (and I dont want to do this at all) is if SA both gets Trae and keeps 8 in this scenario. I still wouldn’t like it, but if ATL wants their 3 picks back, they can give us 1 + Trae (I know they wouldn’t do it, but that’s only way Im doing it if Im SA)
    I don't actually want to do it at all, I was just trying to have a little fun

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    I don't actually want to do it at all, I was just trying to have a little fun
    For sure lol - Theres a path to doing it where I think the risk/reward is acceptable is sort of what I was getting at

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    I don't actually want to do it at all, I was just trying to have a little fun
    This describes most of my trade proposals too, but the usual suspects jump to conclusions to push their agendas.

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    Thinking a little creatively about ATL and if they want to get their picks back so they can tank... What about:

    ATL Gets: #8 overall in 2024, all three of their picks back, Keldon, Collins
    SA Gets: #1 overall in 2024, Trae/Dejounte (take your pick. If Dejounte, then only Collins goes out).

    Spurs get to take Risacher (who isn't atop my board, but probably requires the #1 pick to get) and whoever they might have been targeting at 4. Let's say it's Sheppard for now.

    Atlanta gets to start their true rebuild and still get a Top 10 pick this year to help.

    Just a different, wacky idea.

    Trae/Tre
    Vassell/Sheppard
    Risacher/Champ
    Sochan/TBD
    Wemby/Bassey

    That would be a horrible trade ...

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    If Spurs love Risacher I’d rather them just use 4 and 8 to move up to 2 and get him while keeping all the ATL picks.
    They could use the chi future pick and couple of seconds to potentially make it work. Not as enticing as adding one or our future first round picks or Hawks but might be in the realm of possible.

    Pick 4, Bulls protect top 10 1st, couple future 2nds or Pick 4, keldon, and a pair of 2nds.

    Is it worth it *shrugs* not sure

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    Jordan Clarkson or Collin Sexton from Jazz? Keeps coming up on my MSN page feed. two separate articles.

    (disclaimer, I have read 0 of 1073 prior posts on this thread, insulating me from admonishment by admitting I am too lazy or busy to see if this has been discussed)

    Underrated trade targets that could help the Spurs improve their roster (msn.com)

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