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    I thought the acting was fine. Maybe the exceptions being Ana Lucia and Zoe.

    Ultimately, everybody has their favorite actors/characters, and there's always one or two that stand out because they're just superior performers (Michael Emerson, Terry O'Quinn).

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    This is probably the best criticism I've read in this thread because its undeniable they left the island really open ended and there were a lot of unanswered questions.

    That being said, you should have seen that coming from miles away. People who are upset suddenly after the finale on this level haven't been paying attention - at all.
    I agree they couldn't possibly explain every can of worms they opened. I just thought they could have done a better job on that than what they did. They did have 3 seasons to do it. Even for characters you could say the same. It would have been interesting to see the spin they would put to explain Hugo being able to see dead people than yet another scene of Jacob playing what ultimately was a meaningless game with the MiB.

    I think most people that are upset is because the alt had basically nothing to do with the island (other than the fact they were all there at some point in time). The supernatural has normally been tied to the island, and to see something like that out of the left field, I can see how they would be upset.

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    Well, it had to do with the Island because in the job of saving/protecing the island they were all linked forever. Christian says the time they shared on that island was the most important in all of their lives.

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    Well, it had to do with the Island because in the job of saving/protecing the island they were all linked forever. Christian says the time they shared on that island was the most important in all of their lives.
    Sure, but it's them that made that place, not the island. Christian also says that it's the place they made themselves to go away together. So, again, the island is really on a second plane.

    The alt is ultimately all about them. And I really have no problem with that.
    That said, I can definitely see how some other fans would think different.

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    That being said, you should have seen that coming from miles away. People who are upset suddenly after the finale on this level haven't been paying attention - at all.
    BS. The commercials talking about the finale said it would answer all the questions. The writters said they would answer everything in the last season. Lost and all their apologists.

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    This is probably the best criticism I've read in this thread because its undeniable they left the island really open ended and there were a lot of unanswered questions.

    That being said, you should have seen that coming from miles away. People who are upset suddenly after the finale on this level haven't been paying attention - at all.
    So basically someone compares the island to zimbabwe and you get it now? It actually wasn't the finale that was the problem, it was the "Across the Sea" episode that dropped the ball and turned the series into garbage. The finale just didn't do anything to change this, all in all it was a good episode of TV.

    So get off your high horse of themes and character development and face the fact that the writers took an easy way out.

    Did anyone really want that happy of an ending anyways?

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    Well, it had to do with the Island because in the job of saving/protecing the island they were all linked forever. Christian says the time they shared on that island was the most important in all of their lives.
    If christian told you to suck Sawyer's left nipple, would you?

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    If christian told you to suck Sawyer's left nipple, would you?

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    The acting across the board was pretty horrible. There were a few exceptional ones (TO'Q, Ben, Desmond) but the majority were bad actors. The thing that made the show amazing was the setting, plot, and themes.

    So they all over the plot and half the setting to comply to a theme and make everyone feel good about themselves that all the characters got back together in the end. Be happy with that, I'm not.

    Leaving work, to be continued..
    The actors that played Locke and Ben both won Emmys.

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    So basically someone compares the island to zimbabwe and you get it now? It actually wasn't the finale that was the problem, it was the "Across the Sea" episode that dropped the ball and turned the series into garbage. The finale just didn't do anything to change this, all in all it was a good episode of TV.

    So get off your high horse of themes and character development and face the fact that the writers took an easy way out.

    Did anyone really want that happy of an ending anyways?
    THEY WERE ALL DEAD. How ing happy is that? Did you want to see them living out eternal damnation on a Ronnie James Dio album cover?

    I'm real ing sorry that Smoky eviscerating Jack rather painfully, ultimately resulting in his death, was too ing happy for you.
    Last edited by exstatic; 05-25-2010 at 07:35 PM.

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    If christian told you to suck Sawyer's left nipple, would you?
    Did you cut yourself as you watched the final episodes of lost while wearing black and listening to the smiths?

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    So basically someone compares the island to zimbabwe and you get it now? It actually wasn't the finale that was the problem, it was the "Across the Sea" episode that dropped the ball and turned the series into garbage. The finale just didn't do anything to change this, all in all it was a good episode of TV.

    So get off your high horse of themes and character development and face the fact that the writers took an easy way out.

    Did anyone really want that happy of an ending anyways?
    LOL OK Mr. Deep Complex Guy. Who is on their high horse here? You never answered my questions above btw. I get their criticism of how the Island themes weren't fulfilled, but thats a long way from saying this was anything but a character driven drama with damn good acting.

    I get it - you didn't like the ending. Thats fine, but doesn't change what the series was.

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    THEY WERE ALL DEAD. How ing happy is that? Did you want to see them living out eternal damnation on a Ronnie James Dio album cover?

    I'm real ing sorry that Smoky eviscerating Jack rather painfully, ultimately resulting in his death, was too ing happy for you.
    Simple minded fool.

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    Stick a fork in it.

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    Stick a fork in it.
    maybe we should all just create some paranormal sideways thread where we can all just reconnect and get along. and then walk off into the light together.

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    Even LOTR and Star Trek were ultimately about the relationships between the characters and less about the mysteries and fantasy of their respective worlds. I know that's not what Manny was even remotely getting at but just found that interesting.

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    I loved the ending and the idea of Hugo as the new Jacob and Ben as the #2.

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    Stick a fork in it.
    Did you even watch the show?

    maybe we should all just create some paranormal sideways thread where we can all just reconnect and get along. and then walk off into the light together.
    yeah!

    These conversations will continue for a long time, that's how good this show was. The bar has been raised.

    I have nothing to watch on Tuesday nights anymore.

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    I loved the ending and the idea of Hugo as the new Jacob and Ben as the #2.

    now this is just me but did anyone else see this allegory? the island under aaron and his "mother" before him seemed to be very akin to old testament "law". then jack has this Christ-like sacrfice for the island and hands over the care of the land to hugo and ben, his disciples so to speak, and they now rule over the island with a more "new testament" style.

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    The actors that played Locke and Ben both won Emmys.
    Hence why I said they were part of the exception. Sawyer/Kate/Hugo lol

    LOL OK Mr. Deep Complex Guy. Who is on their high horse here? You never answered my questions above btw. I get their criticism of how the Island themes weren't fulfilled, but thats a long way from saying this was anything but a character driven drama with damn good acting.

    I get it - you didn't like the ending. Thats fine, but doesn't change what the series was.
    Manny I am sorry for attacking you yesterday, and you were right I am angry how the show ended. Not that I had any particular outcome that I wanted, but the fact that they danced around giving definite answers to close out the show and then shoved the notion that the whole show was about the characters not the mysteries down our throat leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

    Even LOTR and Star Trek were ultimately about the relationships between the characters and less about the mysteries and fantasy of their respective worlds. I know that's not what Manny was even remotely getting at but just found that interesting.
    This is true, as in every story worth telling, but LOTR didn't sacrifice what made LOTR great just to make the character's story have a "resolution" (if that's what you want to call LOST's ending).

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    now this is just me but did anyone else see this allegory? the island under aaron and his "mother" before him seemed to be very akin to old testament "law". then jack has this Christ-like sacrfice for the island and hands over the care of the land to hugo and ben, his disciples so to speak, and they now rule over the island with a more "new testament" style.
    Read this.

    http://designwoop.com/2010/05/lost-f...xplained-well/


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    yeah i had already read this. it clarified some things that i had pretty much assumed but not the temple (and that is why i brought up the idea of a world living under a more "new testament" law) and also some inconsistencies, such as why michael gets assigned to purgatory for his sins but somehow sayid did not.

    hey, forgive me, i have a degree in philosophy and spent 13 years in catholic schools. and now i work as a medical physicist! so no wonder LOST hit me on so many levels.

    (i still think there was more need for characters' closure at the end. )

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