Even if only his two first seasons are guaranteed, I have a problem in that he'll be taking minutes from other guys that have much more upside and can use the minutes to develop. If we paid market-value or not is truly irrelevant for me, other than the comedy factor.
Bonner shot better from 3 point land than Frye did but he also got a much smaller contract. You have to admit that Frye and Bonner are very similar players so Matt Bonner at half that seems about market value.
In any event, I'm not disagreeing with you that the contract and maybe it would have been better just to let him go at that price but I don't see how you can say its not market value considering everything I've pointed out.
Frye shot 44% against the Spurs and wasn't that bad against the Lakers - 3 good games and 3 bad games. He's 6'11'' and plays a decent defense - not gettting why that's such a bad deal
How is it logical to believe that Matt Bonner didn't get offers other than the fact that you don't like him?The semantics game. I am just stating logical opinion, just like your "in this market" theory.
Frye also grabs nearly double the rebounds than Matty does. Plus Frye was cashing in on a relatively successful post-season. That stuff happens all the time.
Channing Frye shot .349 from 3 point land and .36% overall in the playoffs. Bonner shot .370 from 3 and .43% overall. Frye is a better rebounder and is younger but otherwise they're very similar players (their defense is about equal).
I'd much rather have Bonner at his reported deal over Frye's deal. Not sure I really want either, but yeah.
I don't disagree with you. All indications point to him getting more minutes so unless they flip Blair or Antonio in a trade then he will likely get more minutes than he should.
34.9 for the playoffs, but 44% against the Spurs and winning that series (especially a sweep) was huge for that franchise.
Frye averaged a block a game in the playoffs and we now that boner can't block shots with his T-Rex wingspan. There's got to be much more value for a big man that can actually play big. Frye's defense was much better than boner's - come on now.
If you go off of the Spurs series then Frye deserves that contract but if you factor in the other 95% of the season and playoffs he doesn't.
It's a player's market this offseason.
While, yes, I'd prefer the Spurs actually retain, let's say, a Ian Mahinmi, and play him, Bonner does offer the ability to provide some spacing for Duncan in the paint with his outside shot (or theoretical threat thereof). I'd rather Mahinmi because I believe that he will prove to be a much better NBA talent than Bonner, and you don't piss away athletic bigman talent.
Assuming the other members of the Spurs' frontcourt are Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, and Blair, retaining Bonner isn't that big of a deal.
I am not disagreeing this is probably market value for Bonner. I am saying that we have heard nothing about Bonner getting an offer. Also, based on what was reported and Matt's quotes, it seems like the Spurs were the only team in talks with Bonner.
Now, obviously that could be off, but I am going by what I have seen/heard.
He at least did something in the playoffs. He came up big in a series the Suns were dying to win. That counts for way more in my book.
Bonner has done absolutely nothing in any playoff series ever. Especially in a big series.
If this deal reported for Bonner is correct, why would you pay your 5th best big 4 million per year or close to that? Especially when he has 0 upside and is a playoff choker.
There is seemingly a few guys who can give you what Bonner gives you (in theory) for a lot cheaper, like Tolliver.
and yet rj has no offers
i wonder if it is becuase he is openly gay.
according to the ken burns do entary baseball there was once a ban on negros playing baseball. I doubt there is in the nba, but sure would cause your interest to be lower i would assume.
You're now fluffing Frye's stats in an attempt to make a point. Realistically, he averaged significantly less than block a game in the Playoffs. He had 9 total blocks in 16 games which is around a block every other game. That is around Frye's average over his career as well. Bonner's isn't that far behind him at .4 BPG. And for the poster who said that he rebounds twice as much as Bonner - I'm curious where those stats came from. Bonner is a career 3.5 RPG player while Frye averages 4.7 RPG. In the Playoffs this year, Frye averaged 5.6 to Bonner's 3.2, but he did so in 10 more minutes of play each game. I'm not defending the Bonner supposed signing (although I'm not as put off by it as many others), but I'm not buying into the posters stating Frye is that much of a better player (defensively OR offensively).
I'm wondering how new jersey justifies petro for that much and not just going and dumping a crap load of money on scola's lap...
He has no offers because he resigned.
Neither has Chris Bosh, and look at the deal he got!
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If I'm Tony Parker or Carmelo Anthony right now, I'm talking to my agent why I didn't have an opt-out clause for this summer. The money they could be making right now...
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