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You are chickening out. Answer the question.Oh yes, that pesky Cons ution with those meddlesome laws... why can't we just govern based on heat-of-the-moment emotion?
Automatic machine guns. AK-47s.
Should they be LEGAL?
Oh yes, that pesky Cons ution with those meddlesome laws... why can't we just govern based on heat-of-the-moment emotion?
You are chickening out. Answer the question.Oh yes, that pesky Cons ution with those meddlesome laws... why can't we just govern based on heat-of-the-moment emotion?
Automatic machine guns. AK-47s.
Should they be LEGAL?
It depends on what voters in each state find appropriate, tbh.... I don't think any civilian needs a fully automatic machine gun, but I also disagree with the federal government barging in on what's clearly a state issue....
automatic guns are illegal.
Also, how come the shooter didnt use a FULLY automatic weapon?
If Gun restrictions dont work. If people can just get what they want on the black market, how come he didnt get a fully automatic weapon on the black market?
Its obvious he was trying to kill as many as possible.
maybe he tried and couldnt get one
Now you're just asking questions that are purposefully impossible to answer, B.... nobody will likely ever know why he didn't just get a fully-automatic machine gun, tbh.... definitely shows you've lost the argument....
Who are YOU to say what someone needs?!!!
Why do you think people dont need a fully automatics?
My point exactly. Maybe the gun restrictions worked?
i can agree with that. its easier to go to gun show and get a semi auto same day
On the contrary. You just admitted that you found fully automatics inappropriate. Dont know why those are inappropriate but semis are not. You'll have to explain yourself.
Likewise, you cant tell me why he obeyed the law with respects to purchasing firearms even though you said earlier "criminals dont obey the law".
Why didnt this criminal buy better guns on the black market? We've been hearing for pages criminals just do what they want, anyway.
Game. Set. Match.
I'm not the one arguing for a full federal gun ban, you are..... if you read my post, I clearly said that it's up to each state to decide what types of firearms should be legal.... the onus is on you to prove the benefits of the federal government forcing law-abiding citizens to give up property that they legally obtained and are licensed to use, and you have repeatedly failed to do that, tbh...
Yep, and if semis were illegal, maybe he would have been armed with just a couple of revolvers that he could have purchased legally. Maybe there'd be a few more people alive today.
Colorado's gun purchasing and licensing process is clearly too lax and doesn't do a thorough enough job of weeding out nutjobs like the Aurora shooter.... I have said several times already that they need to change their process to ensure that this won't happen again....
There you go.
LMAO.
You just jumped from "people will do what they want" to "its a states rights thing".
What a bunch of bull .
Tell me why fully automatics should be legal, or admit that you just realized you are wrong.
Yes, YOU are reducing the argument to absurdity by siezing on DMC's throwaway swimming pool line from ages ago instead of focusing on the overall points he's been making, B.... glad you finally admit it....
FUN FACT: He had no prior criminal record. He could have bought a gun in ANY state. Its been confirmed.
I find it ridiculous that youre now calling for tighter restrictions on gun licenses.
I thought that was pointless since CRIMINALS DONT OBEY THE LAW?!!!!
Thats what Ive been reading for pages and pages, anyway.
It IS a states' rights thing.... you clearly haven't been reading any of my posts...
These are the points I've been making all thread:
- Federal bans don't work (War on Drugs, Prohibition)
- Gun bans in other countries have failed to significantly decrease gun crime (Britain, Australia)
- It isn't the federal government's place to tell law-abiding citizens to give up property they legally obtained, are licensed to use, and use responsibly
- Colorado and other states need to closely examine the process they use for gun buying and licensing to make sure that nutjobs like the Aurora shooter can't get their hands on a gun
You, meanwhile, are putting words in my mouth and ascribing other arguments to me.... definitely shows that you don't have much of a case, B.....
Last edited by Clipper Nation; 07-23-2012 at 06:25 PM.
Unfortunately Aurora has a city/county ordinance the prohibits carry of a firearm even with a state issued license.
By the way too soon?
Mugshot.
IIRC, many states also require a mental health evaluation before you can own a gun.... strongly doubt this nutjob would have passed, tbh...
I'm arguing for a better process at the STATE level.... you, meanwhile, are arguing for a full-out FEDERAL ban on all guns.... if you honestly can't tell the difference between state and federal, I don't know what to tell you....I find it ridiculous that youre now calling for tighter restrictions on gun licenses.
You really don't get it, B.... federal bans have proven to do nothing but punish law-abiding citizens and strengthen the black market (just look at Prohibition and the War on Drugs)..... still allowing guns while making the standards a bit more selective at the state level won't necessarily do that....I thought that was pointless since CRIMINALS DONT OBEY THE LAW?!!!!
Even liberal CNN is at this moment admitting that in recent years, America has become more safe as gun sales have skyrocketed. The spin they are trying to out on it is "see, since it's safe everyone needs to turn in their guns voluntarily!" I'm in my phone or id post the link, it's on the front page.
They literally just acknowledged those worried about a gun grab and said no one is going to attack your 2nd amendment, it's off the political agenda! But since it's so safe, you should just go ahead and turn those in willingly.
Wow.
That argument is so stupid and transparent, I'm surprised da_suns_fan hasn't trotted it out in this thread, tbh.....
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