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  1. #1076
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    If the coverage is good enough to merit a fair catch, why not get the extra 15 yards.
    All ya want to do in punt returns is maintain possesion and if ya can gain a few yards, cool. It's not a play ya want to try and get cute with.

  2. #1077
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    I don't like him either. I did once upon a time.

  3. #1078
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    Bengals at home coming off a loss, gotta like their chances here, talking SU. No reason to see Miami a weak road team to hang in this "spot".

    Bengals haven't lost back to back home games since 2012.
    Dolphins have won but six road games since 2014.

  4. #1079
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    Week 4 ya start seeing something closer to how things really are in 2016, then by week 6/7 we pretty much have it.

    Wentz/Presott the real deal?

    Vikes/Eagles defense~~~

    Broncos better than 2015?

    Panthers fading a bit?

    Seahawks offense?

    Not that we haven't seen 1-3 teams end up better off than 3-1 teams numerous times.
    Last edited by Avante; 09-30-2016 at 09:19 AM.

  5. #1080
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    32-16

    wk 4 winners

    Bengals....won
    Jags
    Cards
    Panthers
    Ravens
    Pats
    Lions
    Redskins
    Niners
    Broncos
    Texans
    Steelers
    Chargers
    Jets
    Vikes

    I thought I had a local to take my ATS action, no answer on the number I was given.

  6. #1081
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    So Kaepernick will get the start Sunday ...AT...Buffalo.

    Are you kidding me? Chip Kelly is a 100% idiot. You do not switch QB's flying from the west coast to the east. Talk about stupid, there it is.

    The Niners are done for 2016, and if Kelly can't see that why am I not surprised? If he wants to make a change, he does it next week at home...then a bye...then at home. Ya don't do it now.

    Time to dump Kelly, the guy is a moron.

    And, if I'm a head coach and one of my players isn't joining his teammates on the sidelines during the National Anthem he's not playing on my team and I will give him that option.

    Coach Avante...you either stand or hit the showers, got it? And, if ya don't join your teammates you won't be here next week.

    If anyone needs to protest anything, protest why black men bail on their kids.

  7. #1082
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    How did you do this week Avante? I went 10-4 and won both my safety (Pats) and surprise (Skins) picks. Lost picks with the Rams, Bengals, Eagles, and of course Panthers.

    50-28 overall
    5-0 safety
    3-2 surprise

  8. #1083
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    How did you do this week Avante? I went 10-4 and won both my safety (Pats) and surprise (Skins) picks. Lost picks with the Rams, Bengals, Eagles, and of course Panthers.

    50-28 overall
    5-0 safety
    3-2 surprise
    You asked.

    I had to take a friend to Clovis and the airport, it was a last mintue thing. I was going to post my picks that morning, well I didn't get the chance.

    So we can do one of these three things.

    I just stop picking.
    you give me the 11 I had for week 5
    we start over now that we have a better read.

    I have gone

    12
    10
    10
    7
    11

    Giving me...50 wins.

  9. #1084
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    You asked.

    I had to take a friend to Clovis and the airport, it was a last mintue thing. I was going to post my picks that morning, well I didn't get the chance.

    So we can do one of these three things.

    I just stop picking.
    you give me the 11 I had for week 5
    we start over now that we have a better read.

    I have gone

    12
    10
    10
    7
    11

    Giving me...50 wins.
    8
    14
    12
    6
    10

    Tie.. dang

    which one did you get right that I didn't?

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    Tie.. dang

    which one did you get right that I didn't?
    I had the Cowboys winning at home over the Bengals.

    So we go from here tied?

  11. #1086
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    I had the Cowboys winning at home over the Bengals.

    So we go from here tied?
    yes, 50-27 apiece... not 50-28 because there were only 15 games last week and 14 this week, my bad

  12. #1087
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    yes, 50-27 apiece... not 50-28 because there were only 15 games last week and 14 this week, my bad
    How about this rule, if for some reason either of us can't make our plays, we get an auto...8..wins? Deal?

  13. #1088
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    Here it is heading into week six, this is the time we should start seeing something we can latch onto. Now teams are looking for where they stand in that division race and what needs to be done. While you will never hear these guys admit it, they do pick and choose games they must have and others where a loss won't hurt so...hmmmm? This is not the NCAA, the pros don;t have to win every game.

    The Falcons have a huge lead already in thier division, so a let down/week off/loss wouldn't hurt and they know this. While the Seahawks have the Rams right on their tail and the tie breaker, they can't afford a loss.

    People are forgetting that the Falcons were 6-1 last season, then lost their next 6.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-11-2016 at 06:34 PM.

  14. #1089
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    How about this rule, if for some reason either of us can't make our plays, we get an auto...8..wins? Deal?
    no... you get .500 rounded up if the number of games is odd.

    14 game week = 7-7
    15 game week = 8-7
    16 game week = 8-8
    11 game week = 6-5


    etc.

  15. #1090
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    no... you get .500 rounded up if the number of games is odd.

    14 game week = 7-7
    15 game week = 8-7
    16 game week = 8-8
    11 game week = 6-5


    etc.
    That will work.

  16. #1091
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    In the Mike McCoy era the Chargers are 1-5 vs the Broncos SU.

    In the Gary Kubiak era the Broncos have never lost to the Chargers, 4-0.

    So we have a strong 9-1 trend favoring the Broncos in this "spot".

    As far as ATS goes, the Broncos are 7-1 on TNF, and are 5-0 last 5 in SD ATS. That is a strong 12-1 trend in this "spot".

    I have the Broncos SU.

  17. #1092
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    Would ya believe?

    An all black Tennessee HS went undefeated and unscored on for a season, AND.....no opponet crossed the 50 yard line on them?

    The great Gale Sayers, The Kansas Coment, was the second fastest member of his family?

    From 1901 to 1905, Michigan went 55-1, losing the last game of 1905 2-0 to Chicago. In that peroid of time the Wolverines scored over 2000 points and gave up 42. They scored over 100 points in a game 4 times and had 49 shutouts.

    Keith Lincoln a SD Charger fullback scored...

    rushing
    passing
    receiving
    kickoff return
    punt return
    field goal
    X-point

    Big Ben Stevenson played seven seasons of college football while at Tuskegge Ins ude.

    The first black QB to play in an NFL game was named......Willie Thrower

    This NFL player, played for the Cardinals as a grade school kid, his middle school....The Cardinals, his HS...The Cardinals...his college...The Cardinals, and he played for the old St. Louis Cardinals in the NFL.

    This stud NCAA RB tandum both won the Heisman.

    The first Raider to have a 1000 yard season was a cornerback in college and dumped by the Niners.

    This RB made such a huge impact on his team that he is in their ring of honor, he only played two seasons.

    An NCAA world record 4x1 team with three pro footballers to be on that team.

    Oregon has twice had the best 110hurdler in the nation playing wide receiver on the football team.

    Herschel Walker once beat Bo Jackson in the heats of an indoor SEC 60m dash.

    While at Texas A&I, Darrell Green ran a 10.08 100, that was the third fastest time n the world that season.

    KC Chiefs current kick returner Tyreek Hill ran a 20.14 200m while in HS, the HS record....20.13. (at that time)

  18. #1093
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    Sitting on 50 wins, yep averaging 10 wins a week, tied with UNT Eagle

    week six

    lost with Broncos
    Seahawks
    Giants
    Bills
    Panthers....if they lose this one.
    Bears
    Pats
    ans
    Packers
    Lions
    Texans
    Chiefs are one of the best teams in the NFL coming off a bye week
    Steelers
    Cards
    Eagles

  19. #1094
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    Heading into week six and things can change it looks like this to me.

    NFC Champs...Seahawks vs Vikes
    AFC Champs....Steelers vs Pats

    I do have some doubts the Seahawks can beat "these" Vikes in their place in that cold.

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    Heading into week six and things can change it looks like this to me.

    NFC Champs...Seahawks vs Vikes
    AFC Champs....Steelers vs Pats

    I do have some doubts the Seahawks can beat "these" Vikes in their place in that cold.
    Don't the Vikings play indoors now? And what's Andy Reid's record ATS coming off a bye?

  21. #1096
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    Don't the Vikings play indoors now? And what's Andy Reid's record ATS coming off a bye?
    Where did I get this cold thing???

    I don't have that stat/trend for a coach. I do have the Chiefs ATS off a bye week, really nothing there to mention. Pretty 50/50 in all roles.

    The two most dramatic ATS "spots" coming off a bye.

    Denver 22-7
    Philly 22-6


    Seattle sucks...9-20

    All the others nothing really strong either way, the Chiefs 15-14.

    I do have some teams that suck/shine heading into a bye week ATS, but only those where it's dramatic like those above. And they have to be searched out.

  22. #1097
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    Main reason I don't do ATS::: prevent defense, a.k.a. pussy defense.

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    Main reason I don't do ATS::: prevent defense, a.k.a. pussy defense.
    I usually play the ATS aspect of it, last two season here plus over 3000, but my man...???? I heard he was in jail. First time I've just played around with SU here.

    The key to ATS is knowing how the teams do in whatever role they are in that week.

    Home fav
    Home dog
    Road fav
    Road dog

    Quick exmple...

    Seattle (last 4 seasons) 26-6 HF, vs Cards 12=20 RD, that is a 46-18 trend favoring the Seahawks. Now add the Cards are coming off a bye, there they are 4-12, now add the Seahawks are at home again....16-4. Add all that up ands it's plain to see the Seahawks are the play. Obviously ya look at injuries/weather. Yep, very time comsumning trying to find those 3-5 best plays that week.

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    I usually play the ATS aspect of it, last two season here plus over 3000, but my man...???? I heard he was in jail. First time I've just played around with SU here.

    The key to ATS is knowing how the teams do in whatever role they are in that week.

    Home fav
    Home dog
    Road fav
    Road dog

    Quick exmple...

    Seattle (last 4 seasons) 26-6 HF, vs Cards 12=20 RD, that is a 46-18 trend favoring the Seahawks. Now add the Cards are coming off a bye, there they are 4-12, now add the Seahawks are at home again....16-4. Add all that up ands it's plain to see the Seahawks are the play. Obviously ya look at injuries/weather. Yep, very time comsumning trying to find those 3-5 best plays that week.
    Or you pick the Patriots at home to cover that -9 spread against some bottom feeding AFC fodder and they go up 35-7 and all looks good, until late in the 3rd quarter when they start giving up score after score because of prevent defense and the score winds up being 35-28 and you lose against the spread. You won SU, but lost ATS. Pointless.

  25. #1100
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    Week six, NOW is the time where we start to see how things really are, not that we can't still be surprised. Funny watching you guy freaking out after two/three weeks, why do you play that, you haven't learned anything by now?

    So what have we learned after 5 weeks?

    1.Derek Anderson totally sucks.
    2.Chip Kelly is a moron.
    3.Dak Prescott/Carson Wentz can play.
    4.rookie RB's can step right in and take off (we already knew this)
    5.Colin Kaepernick needs his ass kicked.
    6.Best triplets in the league....Steelers
    7.RGIII needs to do something else.
    8.Thursday Night football sucks.

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