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    Also, one of the main reasons I'm not for standing pat or blowing it up despite SA's flaws is because things change so quickly.

    Basically Spurs are by all measures a top 5 team. They have flaws and are probably ranked 4th or 5th in the contender zone, but every other team outside of the top 5 would kill to be in SA's spot.

    All it takes is an injury or two (Curry's knee in the playoffs, CP3 injury, etc..) and things drastically change. It takes a lot to be in one of the top 5 contender spots and you should not take that lightly with how crazy the NBA gets.

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    At the notion of Duncan coming off the bench. They'd never ask him to do that in perpetuity, not only for what he means to the franchise, but because players of his magnitude never move into bench roles.
    Don't get hung up on that. It might or might not happen and that's not the point everyone is really discussing now anyways.

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    I think we've already seen Pau is mostly about the money. He did opt out from LA to take less in CHI, but that is because he thought CHI had a chance to win/go to playoffs. There are plenty of "playoff" teams for Pau to choose from this year it seems and he will likely go to the highest bidder again.
    I also don't think Pau wants to take less money. But he has to take less if he really wants to play for a contender. GSW will not have much space left if they re-sign Barnes. Teams like Cavs and OKC can only give him MLE. If he signs with us for 3m this year, and 8-9m per year for two years in 2017, it is a better deal than MLE.

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    I also don't think Pau wants to take less money. But he has to take less if he really wants to play for a contender. GSW will not have much space left if they re-sign Barnes. Teams like Cavs and OKC can only give him MLE. If he signs with us for 3m this year, and 8-9m per year for two years in 2017, it is a better deal than MLE.
    Don't be surprised if he goes to a mid-tier team that can promise him more money and touches, tbh..Gasol has never been about sacrificing, he isn't Duncan or Nowitzki(he already has 2 rings as a major piece, too, so not like his career is missing something)

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    Don't get hung up on that. It might or might not happen and that's not the point everyone is really discussing now anyways.
    There's zero chance of it happening, just like there's zero chance of Gasol getting a 4 year contract. 2 years, $20-24M, will probably be what he gets.

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    Yup ^ I mean, I think SA has a legit shot at Pau, just don't think he's giving any discount and would not be surprised for some playoff cusp team throwing decent money at him and him choosing it.

    If it was Marc, he might take the min since he loves SA so much

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    There's zero chance of it happening, just like there's zero chance of Gasol getting a 4 year contract. 2 years, $20-24M, will probably be what he gets.
    K.

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    If we can not sign Durant, I would really like Matt Barnes and Lance Stephenson

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    If we can not sign Durant, I would really like Matt Barnes and Lance Stephenson

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    If we can not sign Durant, I would really like Matt Barnes and Lance Stephenson
    If you love self-centered drama queens.

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    contention. If it doesn't put us over the top then it's a meaningless signing. You wanna be Hawks West now? that.
    There isn't a move that any single team can make that will make them an absolute lock for the le.

    If there is anything this year taught us, it's that no one team is guaranteed to win . Most people spent the entire season and playoffs handing the trophy to either the Warriors or the Spurs (with OKC being the one noted "dark horse"), and we saw how that worked out.

    , even when brought Miami together prime Lebron, Wade, and Bosh along with a slew of veteran role players, it took them two years to get their in gear and they still only ended up with 2 rings (which should have been one if not for Ray Allen bailing them out).

    The best any team can do is put themselves in a reasonable position to go all the way, and this still requires health and a little luck.

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    I'm not going to make a thread for this so I'll stick this here.

    http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dall...er-next-season

    The Mavericks will play a set of games in Mexico City in January with the San Antonio Spurs and Phoenix Suns.

    Reports out of Mexico leaked the news and a source confirmed that the Mavericks will be involved in the international games.

    The NBA has stressed global games for more than two decades, and the Mavericks have played internationally several times, including preseason games in Mexico City when Eduardo Najera was playing for them.

    The NBA is expected to release its full schedule in late July or early August.

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    There isn't a move that any single team can make that will make them an absolute lock for the le.

    If there is anything this year taught us, it's that no single team is guaranteed to win . Most people spent the entire season and playoffs handing the trophy to either the Warriors or the Spurs (with OKC being the one noted "dark horse"), and we saw how that worked out.

    , even when brought together prime Lebron, Wade, and Bosh along with a slew of veteran role players, it took them two years to get their in gear and they still only ended up with 2 rings (which should have been one if not for Ray Allen bailing them out).

    The best any team can do is put themselves in a reasonable position to go all the way, and this still requires health and a little luck.
    Durant to the Warriors without having to lose more than Barnes + Bogut (or Ezeli + Iggy, or whatever the case may be) is as close as it gets. Nothing guarantees them the le, but they'd be the odds on favorite.

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    There isn't a move that any single team can make that will make them an absolute lock for the le.

    If there is anything this year taught us, it's that no single team is guaranteed to win . Most people spent the entire season and playoffs handing the trophy to either the Warriors or the Spurs (with OKC being the one noted "dark horse"), and we saw how that worked out.

    , even when brought together prime Lebron, Wade, and Bosh along with a slew of veteran role players, it took them two years to get their in gear and they still only ended up with 2 rings (which should have been one if not for Ray Allen bailing them out).

    The best any team can do is put themselves in a reasonable position to go all the way, and this still requires health and a little luck.
    Coming into the season, Golden State was favored to win the championship followed by Cleveland. I don't think it's ironic those two teams were in the NBA finals.

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    Durant to the Warriors without having to lose more than Barnes + Bogut (or Ezeli + Iggy, or whatever the case may be) is as close as it gets. Nothing guarantees them the le, but they'd be the odds on favorite.
    Agreed, and I thought about noting them as an example. But I still don't see them bringing in Durant without gutting their depth and affecting their chemistry. Obviously would be a great team on paper, but there is a reason the games are still played.

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    Durant to the Warriors without having to lose more than Barnes + Bogut (or Ezeli + Iggy, or whatever the case may be) is as close as it gets. Nothing guarantees them the le, but they'd be the odds on favorite.
    Have you seen what they have to do and give up to get that max slot?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/front-o...184021631.html

    THE COMPE ORS IN THE WEST
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    The loss in the NBA Finals has Warriors management pondering a shakeup.

    Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green are likely untouchable, but the Warriors do have decisions to make on the value of cap space vs. their own free agents, and key rotational players Andre Iguodala and Andrew Bogut.

    Golden State, currently with no cap space, would need to create room to land Durant.

    When the Warriors meet with Durant, they will show him how room will be created and what the team will look like now and in the future.

    The moves to fit Durant:

    1. Renounce the unrestricted free-agent holds of Marreese Speights, Leandro Barbosa, Ian Clark, James McAdoo, Brandon Rush and Anderson Varejao.

    2. Withdraw the qualifying offers and renounce the cap holds of Harrison Barnes and Festus Ezeli.

    3. Trade Bogut’s contract to a team with cap space.

    The moves would leave Golden State with $26.6 million in cap space to sign Durant to a max contract.

    However, doing so would only leave the Warriors with the minimum and room mid-level ($2.9 million) to fill out their roster

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    Chicken strips from whataburger for one.
    Never a wasted penny from that. Agreed. C'mon now though. For really reals on the real tip:
    Who you liking in this free agency?

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    Never a wasted penny from that. Agreed. C'mon now though. For really reals on the real tip:
    Who you liking in this free agency?
    Tbh I've been calling for a defensive/rebounding big man so I guess if I had to choose I'd go with Bismack.

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    Tbh I've been calling for a defensive/rebounding big man so I guess if I had to choose I'd go with Bismack.
    This FA is so wack. Honestly. Bismack sucks. SA would be better off just punting this season and going in on '17. Just let Dunc and Manu ride off into the sunset and then kick Parker's ass to the curb next year.
    Let them all go next year. Time to bury the Big 3. If the team encounters crazy luck this next year and players get injured on other teams. Great. Plan for next year anyways.

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    3. Trade Bogut’s contract to a team with cap space.

    The moves would leave Golden State with $26.6 million in cap space to sign Durant to a max contract.

    However, doing so would only leave the Warriors with the minimum and room mid-level ($2.9 million) to fill out their roster
    Can we get Bogut from them?
    Also we are probably about the same in terms of having to reduce our depth to the bare minimum.
    Both teams can probably pick up some vet ring chasers like Lebron did for his teams.
    We do have a lot of youth and a future as a team, which would explain Pop turning all rocks over.
    OKC does have youth and future to offer too.

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    This FA is so wack. Honestly. Bismack sucks. SA would be better off just punting this season and going in on '17. Just let Dunc and Manu ride off into the sunset and then kick Parker's ass to the curb next year.
    Let them all go next year. Time to bury the Big 3. If the team encounters crazy luck this next year and players get injured on other teams. Great. Plan for next year anyways.
    totally ok with this. seems like the only legit free agents we can land will be average and/or overrated. We are not getting Durant or Conley, this next season. We will be the same team, can't wait until parker is gone. Gonna be like Christmas.

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    totally ok with this. seems like the only legit free agents we can land will be average and/or overrated. We are not getting Durant or Conley, this next season. We will be the same team, can't wait until parker is gone. Gonna be like Christmas.
    this

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    totally ok with this. seems like the only legit free agents we can land will be average and/or overrated. We are not getting Durant or Conley, this next season. We will be the same team, can't wait until parker is gone. Gonna be like Christmas.
    For real. This FA is hot garbage. Next might be also, but c'mon. This team is probably getting Pau, which isn't moving the needle beyond status quo and fillers.
    Damn, I hope Bertans and Mulitinov come in and blows PATFO away. They need it.

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    Give up on Conley. He is not coming as long as Parker is here and Tony ain't going nowhere. As for Gasol, he a perfect fit on offence but he D leaves a lot to be desired. He can block shots, but he's not a rim protector; he is slow of foot and has bad instincts. Still, if Duncan doesn't come back then Pau is welcome here.

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    Give up on Conley. He is not coming as long as Parker is here and Tony ain't going nowhere. As for Gasol, he a perfect fit on offence but he D leaves a lot to be desired. He can block shots, but he's not a rim protector; he is slow of foot and has bad instincts. Still, if Duncan doesn't come back then Pau is welcome here.
    I don't know. People complained about LMA's D and the team ended up having a near historic defense for the year.
    Pop can scheme a good D, even with poor D players.

    Team D is about having a few good individual D players and a full commitment to support and communication by everyone on the floor.
    Pau's lack of foot swiftness can be overcome, but it won't be easy.

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