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    I think it's going to come down to Castle or Risacher for the le of 'Best Player' of this draft class. Found this on X, the ultimate comp graph of their rookie seasons minus the final game. Castle has him basically beat in virtually every category bar 3pt shooting.

    The thing that stands out is that as a rookie Castle is already in the upper echelon for shot creation and play making talent, which is amazing for a young PG.

    Fouls drawn wasn't a big surprise there but screen talent is something I haven't considered.

    His overall finishing appears to be much better than I thought too, and his shot selection and shooting will come as he matures. Looks good, hope he keeps developing.

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    Well deserved

    Better than Rookie Tony Parker tbh

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    Well deserved

    Better than Rookie Tony Parker tbh
    Different style. Rookie TP was a blur and likewise fearless in attacking trees. But in all 72 games that TP started, he was passing to Timmy, DRob, Elliot, and didn’t have the same pressure to score, unlike Castle who, after Wemby went down, had to pick-up some of the scoring slacks.

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    I'm so glad we have Castle. I'm bullish on his ability to be a good player for us for a long time, but more importantly I like the Spurs swinging for high ceiling prospects.
    Before getting Fox we desperately needed playmakers on this roster.

    What's wild to me is that the prospect profile hasn't really changed very much for Castle vs Risacher.
    It's possible that in a re-draft that the Hawks still take Risacher while the Spurs would prefer Castle.
    Castle shows a much higher potential ceiling but also a lower floor.
    Risacher is a safer bet to be a usable contributor on a playoff team but he doesn't show the upside Castle shows.


    It's not difficult to see an ideal outcome where Castle is an All star playmaker who runs an offense for a playoff level team.
    His worst outcome, however, is a role player who severely limits roster construction and starting lineup because of poor shooting.
    Shooting is the only reason he wasn't a higher pick, and while we saw signs of hope this season, the stats were still very bad there.
    I hope he puts up a thousand shots a day this offseason.

    Risacher is a safer bet but without obvious the upside.
    He doesn't look like a future All star to me, even with his best outcomes, but he is already a starter level 3&D wing for a borderline playoff team.
    His best outcome is probably as an elite 3&D.
    His worst outcome is still a usable 3&D because, duh, he's already that guy.

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    congrats to the young man. hope he continues to prove his doubters wrong.

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    that “Mamba At ude” for lack of a better term
    Please find a better term.

    Thank you.

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    “Now that it’s offseason I get a chance to work on my game.”


    ?????


    This sounds like old Spur’s demeanor. wtf….
    The context is that he said it's his first full offseason as a pro. He will be able to get a lot more work in than he did last summer because he has an extra 2 months to work with.

    I hope his biggest focus is his three-point shot. I don't think he will ever be a high 30s shooter, but 34-35% would be good enough to open up everything else.

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    Please find a better term.

    Thank you.
    Red Mamba Mentality.

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    Red Mamba Mentality.
    The Mamba part is the one that needs to go.

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    What's wild to me is that the prospect profile hasn't really changed very much for Castle vs Risacher.
    It's possible that in a re-draft that the Hawks still take Risacher while the Spurs would prefer Castle.
    Castle shows a much higher potential ceiling but also a lower floor.
    Risacher is a safer bet to be a usable contributor on a playoff team but he doesn't show the upside Castle shows.
    We got really lucky the way the draft order panned out and that Sarr forced Atlanta to pass on him. If Atlanta takes Sarr I bet Washington would have taken Steph #2. But instead we got a perfect storm with Sarr forcing his way to Washington, ATL passing on Steph because they already have Trae, and then Houston figuring they can't play Steph and Amen Thompson together so taking Sheppard instead. Glad the Spurs were able to get him. Wonder if they had him #1 on their board like I did (though gotta admit I had Sheppard as a close second and I think he'll still be a good player too).

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    D-Rob, Timmy, and Wemby surprised Steph Castle today for his NBA ROY Award presentation. Cool moment tbh.


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    Truly insane how tall Wemby is tbh


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    Truly insane how tall Wemby is tbh
    His head breaks above the backing panels designed for NBA player awards.

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    Duncan has definitely shrunk a bit since retirement, tbh..Normal process, but it seems more accelerated than with D-Rob who is 11 years older


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    Congrats to Stephon. Well deserved. I know there are varying views on this board about his ceiling, but it is safe to say that he's beaten everyone's expectations in Year 1.

    What won Castle the award was (1) his great consistency all season long. I can't remember him having a truly rough 3-5 games stretch. And when Risacher/Sarr made a late season push he responded by upping his production across the board. (2) style, name-recognition, and visibility thanks to Spurs few national TV games (the viral Lebron props comment) and the All-Star weekend appearance helped push his case.

    The ROTY award gives Castle pedigree and elevates him in team hierarchy. It is evident that PATFO now operates from the view that he is a 'core piece'. I am pretty certain he won't go out in a potential Durant deal .The only chance he gets moved between now and next year deadline is if Giannis in play (unlikely in as far as mutual interest between the sides is concerned)..
    The ceremony featuring the two legends and Wemby is a window into their thinking. Spurs hang onto their drafted players (often mid-late picks) longer than most franchises. Imagine if he is the 4th pick and ROTY winner. It is going to take some special player of Giannis/Doncic caliber for them to throw Castle him in a potential trade.
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    Castle was not thought of as a “high ceiling” prospect… that’s revisionist history tbh

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    The ceremony featuring the two legends and Wemby is a window into their thinking. Spurs hang onto their drafted players (often mid-late picks) longer than most franchises. Imagine if he is the 4th pick and ROTY winner. It is going to take some special player of Giannis/Doncic caliber for them to throw Castle him in a potential trade.
    George "Pop's favorite player" Hill says hi. I mostly agree that they don't like trading their drafted players, but it's not been reserved for then-top 2/3 players in the league moves.

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    D-Rob, Timmy, and Wemby surprised Steph Castle today for his NBA ROY Award presentation. Cool moment tbh.

    seriously doubt it was a "surprise". Spurs don't do surprises.

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    “Now that it’s offseason I get a chance to work on my game.”


    ?????


    This sounds like old Spur’s demeanor. wtf….
    This is when all NBA players work on their game.

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    Timmy rocking the $19.95 TeePublic Big Foot tee

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    Dope moment tbh.

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    D-Rob, Timmy, and Wemby surprised Steph Castle today for his NBA ROY Award presentation. Cool moment tbh.

    Talk about a FLEX 💪🏽!!

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    Timmy looks like a SF out there!

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