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    Do you think Trump making up on TV about a pandemic is reasonable and responsible?
    You can keep on with your cuz Trump shtick but my wife's practice just put in protocol for dealing with Covid-19 cases. Methodist hospital system has issued protocols for dealing with Covid-19 patients. The CDC/NIH today signaled they are shifting focus to protecting the most vulnerable populations.

    It's coming. Are you ready?

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    LOL the other day I was at a restaurant I like eating curry rice and I ordered it extremely y. Only after my nose started running and I was wiping away sweat of my forehead did I realize how bad that looked with all the stories about the corona patients at Lackland.
    George likes his chicken y

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    You can keep on with your cuz Trump shtick but my wife's practice just put in protocol for dealing with Covid-19 cases. Methodist hospital system has issued protocols for dealing with Covid-19 patients. The CDC/NIH today signaled they are shifting focus to protecting the most vulnerable populations.

    It's coming. Are you ready?
    What's your wife's advice?

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    If that's what he said then yes but you just posted he said it was likely much lower and was going to kill people because of it.
    If the president represents a highly contagious, unusually lethal disease as no big deal, mightn't that influence people to let you know their guard down and slow the federal response?

    Telling people it's ok to go to work sick is bad advice regardless of the pathogen involved.

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    What's your wife's advice?
    It's not the virus you need to prepare for. It's all the freaked out people like yourself you might consider preparing for.

    Ask your doctor if you need medical advice. Or just put some robitussin on it.

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    Trump said it was 3.4% on Hannity, did he goof?
    paging Darrin

    “but but there was a boat once that had 1% death rate”

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    Trash Claims Thousands Could Still Go To Work With Coronavirus And Get Better

    CDC advises:

    “Do not go to work, school or public areas.

    Avoid using public transportation, ride-sharing or taxis,”

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b69d641c0aa3dc

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    HSBC bank HQ evacuated cause an employee was as positive for the virus

    this virus might bring good things after all

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    paging Darrin

    “but but there was a boat once that had 1% death rate”
    In fairness he did explain why the numbers are most likely lower in an accurate manner.

    A rare moment of sanity waiting to be shattered by a tweet retweet from Mike “Smoking won’t kill you Yes it will” Pence.

    Next Donald will demonstrate how to lick every person within coughing range to show those stupid libs.
    His base will love the brash, swashbuckling orange dude fckn showing them socialists what socialists do.

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    HSBC bank HQ evacuated cause an employee was as positive for the virus

    this virus might bring good things after all
    Says the guy staying mute while Syria indiscriminately bombs women and children.

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    WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN TRUST US.

    For weeks, federal health officials told states that only the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and a few other public labs could test patients for the new coronavirus.

    That was because test kits that the CDC had sent to state and local labs across the country to do their own screening had a flaw that caused inaccurate results.

    “It was a malfunctioning chemical,” said Kelly Wroblewski, director of infectious disease programs at the Assn. of Public Health Laboratories.

    Now, officials say they have made changes so that California labs and three dozen other public labs across the country will be able to start testing for the virus.


    The lack of tests for the coronavirus was made clear this week when a patient was diagnosed with the virus who had not traveled or been in contact with anyone infected. Doctors who treated the woman at UC Davis Medical Center said they had asked the CDC to test the woman but then waited days for that to happen.

    The CDC’s flawed test kits stalled the surveillance testing that federal officials had said Feb. 14 would begin in Los Angeles, San Francisco and three other cities. CDC officials said then that the surveillance tests were aimed at finding patients in the community who had been unknowingly infected with the virus.

    But by Thursday, fewer than 500 tests had been performed in the U.S., according to the CDC. In comparison, South Korea says it has been testing thousands of people a day.

    “If you test less than 500 people, you can’t say at all what is going on,” said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota

    Osterholm said the delay in testing could mean that many cases have gone undetected. “The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence,” he said. “I expect a sizable jump in cases in the next few weeks.”

    Said Wroblewski, “It’s unfortunate there was a delay with testing. Earlier is always better, but we were waiting for a quality test.”

    Some state and local labs wanted to use their own tests they had developed in-house, Wroblewski said. But that was not possible after the federal government declared the coronavirus, known as COVID-19, a public health emergency at the end of January. After the emergency declaration, any test had to receive authorization from the federal Food and Drug Administration to ensure its accuracy.

    After an appeal from the public labs association, federal officials said Thursday they were making changes so that 40 state and local labs would be able to test for the virus.

    Wroblewski explained that the original test had three parts. The problematic third part, aimed at testing more broadly for coronaviruses and not just for COVID-19, gave off false readings. She said some labs will now be able to use the test without using the third part. At the same time, the CDC has modified the test and is manufacturing new kits that it will soon be sending to public labs.

    She said she does not believe the test is less accurate when just two of the three parts are used.

    Officials hope the 40 labs will be able to test for the virus by early next week — which would allow an estimated 4,000 tests a day, Wroblewski said. “We’re in a position to start the surveillance testing, I hope.”

    Wroblewski said the association’s goal is to have 100 public labs performing the tests, which would allow 10,000 patients to be tested each day.

    State officials said late Friday they expected to get a shipment of test kits to initially cover 1,200 people.

    Some commercial labs are also working to develop tests for COVID-19, said Julie Khani, president of the American Clinical Laboratory Assn.

    But only the CDC and other public labs are authorized to test for the virus in the U.S.

    “At this time, commercial laboratories are not collecting, processing or transporting specimens from patients suspected of having, or confirmed to have, COVID-19,” Khani said.

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    “best healthcare in the world”

    “most prepared country in the world”

    lol

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    CDC required local labs to validate against their test that didn’t work. Sure, why not.

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    WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN TRUST US.

    For weeks, federal health officials told states that only the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and a few other public labs could test patients for the new coronavirus.

    That was because test kits that the CDC had sent to state and local labs across the country to do their own screening had a flaw that caused inaccurate results.

    “It was a malfunctioning chemical,” said Kelly Wroblewski, director of infectious disease programs at the Assn. of Public Health Laboratories.

    Now, officials say they have made changes so that California labs and three dozen other public labs across the country will be able to start testing for the virus.


    The lack of tests for the coronavirus was made clear this week when a patient was diagnosed with the virus who had not traveled or been in contact with anyone infected. Doctors who treated the woman at UC Davis Medical Center said they had asked the CDC to test the woman but then waited days for that to happen.

    The CDC’s flawed test kits stalled the surveillance testing that federal officials had said Feb. 14 would begin in Los Angeles, San Francisco and three other cities. CDC officials said then that the surveillance tests were aimed at finding patients in the community who had been unknowingly infected with the virus.

    But by Thursday, fewer than 500 tests had been performed in the U.S., according to the CDC. In comparison, South Korea says it has been testing thousands of people a day.

    “If you test less than 500 people, you can’t say at all what is going on,” said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota

    Osterholm said the delay in testing could mean that many cases have gone undetected. “The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence,” he said. “I expect a sizable jump in cases in the next few weeks.”

    Said Wroblewski, “It’s unfortunate there was a delay with testing. Earlier is always better, but we were waiting for a quality test.”

    Some state and local labs wanted to use their own tests they had developed in-house, Wroblewski said. But that was not possible after the federal government declared the coronavirus, known as COVID-19, a public health emergency at the end of January. After the emergency declaration, any test had to receive authorization from the federal Food and Drug Administration to ensure its accuracy.

    After an appeal from the public labs association, federal officials said Thursday they were making changes so that 40 state and local labs would be able to test for the virus.

    Wroblewski explained that the original test had three parts. The problematic third part, aimed at testing more broadly for coronaviruses and not just for COVID-19, gave off false readings. She said some labs will now be able to use the test without using the third part. At the same time, the CDC has modified the test and is manufacturing new kits that it will soon be sending to public labs.

    She said she does not believe the test is less accurate when just two of the three parts are used.

    Officials hope the 40 labs will be able to test for the virus by early next week — which would allow an estimated 4,000 tests a day, Wroblewski said. “We’re in a position to start the surveillance testing, I hope.”

    Wroblewski said the association’s goal is to have 100 public labs performing the tests, which would allow 10,000 patients to be tested each day.

    State officials said late Friday they expected to get a shipment of test kits to initially cover 1,200 people.

    Some commercial labs are also working to develop tests for COVID-19, said Julie Khani, president of the American Clinical Laboratory Assn.

    But only the CDC and other public labs are authorized to test for the virus in the U.S.

    “At this time, commercial laboratories are not collecting, processing or transporting specimens from patients suspected of having, or confirmed to have, COVID-19,” Khani said.
    Im guessing they think it’s more important to get good results now because the virus will spread regardless unless somehow the warming of spring causes less bunching. Not a lot we can do but practice hand washing hygiene. And follow instructions on closure rules. My observation in DFW airports is no panicking. I did not see a single person on four different airplane trips wearing a mask. We will see.

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    I did not see a single person on four different airplane trips wearing a mask
    The cheapo common unfitted paper masks are not effective as protection on healthy people, as airborne virus can still get around the mask edges, and into eyes.

    Masks, esp the fitted ones, work better on infected people to restrain sneezes, coughs

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    The cheapo common unfitted paper masks are not effective as protection on healthy people, as airborne virus can still get around the mask edges, and into eyes.

    Masks, esp the fitted ones, work better on infected people to restrain sneezes, coughs
    Basically, the masks are only good to remind you not to touch your face with your hands. That's typically how it spreads. The virus stays on surfaces (door knobs, shopping cart handles, gas pump handles, etc. for a week) you touch it and then pick your nose...bingo. You have covid19.

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    the dont wear masks BS is done by governments to prevent shortage of masks for their police/medical force

    of course you are better off wearing a mask especially the N95

    I have only a handful of those and will wear it if infection reaches Seattle levels in my area

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    remember many of the indications by Govmt/CDC are for the better of the entire population. not for the better of you as individual or your family.

    you need to decide how to protect yourself and your family in the best way possible.

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    If that's what he said then yes but you just posted he said it was likely much lower and was going to kill people because of it.
    Trump Massively Lies About the Number of People in the US With Coronavirus: ‘We’re Really Down to Probably About 10
    President Trump seems to have wished a vaccine for the new coronavirus into existence. “I think that whole situation will start working out,” he told reporters at a press conference in India. “We’re very close to a vaccine.”
    At a Senate hearing that same day, Trump’s acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf took a similar line, promising a vaccine would be ready within “several months.”
    At his latest rally in South Carolina, Trump said, “Things happen. Who would have thought of this two weeks ago, four weeks ago, that this could be going on, but things happen in life, and you have to be prepared, and you have to be flexible, and you have to go out and get it, and my guys, we have the best professionals in the world, and we are so ready.”

    The CDC has been monitoring the coronavirus since December 2019. They have been issuing a steady stream of public warnings since early January 2020. The CDC warned that the coronavirus could be spread by human contact more than a month ago. They began public health screenings at airports on January 17, 2020.

    The coronavirus has been known about for months. Trump wasn’t aware of it until 2-4 weeks ago, because he gets his information from watching cable news.
    On Friday night, Donald Trump called the coronavirus epidemic a “hoax” by Democrats who “failed” to bring him down over his collusion with Russia, or the extortion of Ukraine that led to his impeachment.
    g his positively incoherent press event on Thursday, Trump already knew that there were sixty cases of coronavirus within the United States. More importantly, he knew that the CDC had just identified the first case of “community spread” in the country — a case that didn’t come in from overseas, and wasn’t obviously tied to someone who had caught it outside the country. Before his speech in South Carolina, three more cases had been identified, including another case of community spread. However, Trump insisted on telling his rally audience that there were still only “fifteen cases in this huge country.”
    President Donald Trump and Larry Kudlow, the director of Trump’s National Economic Council, aren’t doctors, but they play them on TV. As the coronavirus epidemic spirals into a pandemic, causing a plunge in the U.S. stock market, Trump and Kudlow, a former CNBC TV host, are cynically spreading disinformation about the contagion.

    “We have contained this. I won’t say airtight, but it’s pretty close to airtight,” Larry Kudlow told CNBC Tuesday. Also on Tuesday, Trump tweeted
    Lie after lie after lie after lie.

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    It's not the virus you need to prepare for. It's all the freaked out people like yourself you might consider preparing for.

    Ask your doctor if you need medical advice. Or just put some robitussin on it.
    What makes you think I'm freaked out?

    Criticizing my government's slow response and lack of preparedness isn't a freakout, but there is something twitchy about your refusal to acknowledge that any mosstep has been made or that making up on TV might be making things worse wrt to any eventual panic.

    The people need accurate info from their government in a public health emergency, Instead we're getting propaganda and disinfo straight from the top. If the people freak because their government has squandered its credibilty, that's hardly to be blamed on anonymous bulletin board posters who point it out, but def more on public officials who mislead the people in TV.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 03-05-2020 at 09:50 AM.

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    In fairness he did explain why the numbers are most likely lower in an accurate manner.

    A rare moment of sanity waiting to be shattered by a tweet retweet from Mike “Smoking won’t kill you Yes it will” Pence.

    Next Donald will demonstrate how to lick every person within coughing range to show those stupid libs.
    His base will love the brash, swashbuckling orange dude fckn showing them socialists what socialists do.
    Coronavirus tsar Mike Pence wipes nose before shaking hands with top doctors at virus press conference

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    If that's what he said then yes but you just posted he said it was likely much lower and was going to kill people because of it.
    What do you make of the decision to pull the number of people tested from the CDC website?

    CORONAVIRUS CASES TESTED IN U.S. REMOVED FROM CDC WEBSITE
    https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus...people-1490158

    They removed it, because the number, practically nil, would make them look bad. The tests will not be widely available until later this month at the earliest.

    So the virus is spreading, undetected. You know this. I know this. The administration is trying to hide it, because they don't want the general population to know this. Seems like a pertinent bit of information to make decisions on.

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    yes I expect the # of infections to raise by a LOT once US starts testing

    US is basically in square 1 still while many other countries like Germany, France are already way ahead

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    Trash Claims Thousands Could Still Go To Work With Coronavirus And Get Better

    CDC advises:

    “Do not go to work, school or public areas.

    Avoid using public transportation, ride-sharing or taxis,”

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b69d641c0aa3dc
    the President contradicting public health officials to soothe the market isn't ideal, wouldn't you say, SnakeBoy?

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