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These seem to be the incoming SRPs:
-2023 2nd (via TOR)
-2024 2nd (via NO)
-2025 2nd (via TOR)
-2026 2nd (via NO)
-2028 2nd (via NO)
-2028 2nd (via MIA)
-2029 2nd (via NO)
This place would go bonkers if we lost / squandered a #2 draft pick…… the meltdown would be next level! ��
These seem to be the incoming SRPs:
-2023 2nd (via TOR)
-2024 2nd (via NO)
-2025 2nd (via TOR)
-2026 2nd (via NO)
-2028 2nd (via NO)
-2028 2nd (via MIA)
-2029 2nd (via NO)
These are the ONLY first round picks moved this deadline:
4 for Kevin Durant
1 for Kyrie Irving
1 for Jakob Poeltl
1 for Josh Hart
1 for Russ Trade
The Wesbrook and Hart first rounders turn into second rounders right away if they don't convey. The only sure-fire first rounders are Durant, Irving and Poeltl
Shows how dry the market was outside of three max contract players, nothing was really happening. Spurs did good.
A player who sat the entire year and will play a very limited role for the rest of this season and postseason. Folks keep making my point for me so thanks.
BTW, for additional proof of the uselessness of SRPs, Thomas Bryant was a 2017 SRP whose value is now 3 SRPs AND a player no one knew. So if you put a summary on this, depending on location in the second round, they're worth 1/4 of Thomas Bryant.
it is good to know if we ever become relevant again we can trade 10 SRP’s for Brynn Forbes
Good news! You can just sign him right now!
The math doesn't break down by early or late in production. Value yes. But taken as a whole, the odds of a SRP being in the league at 3 years is less than 20% -- early or late. And of those fewer than 3% are all stars or have 10 year careers.
if the charlotte pick ever conveys (obviously not happening this year, so its gotta be either 2024 or 2025), thats 5 extra FRP's between 2024 and 2027 in addition to potential swaps in 2026 and 2028 (on top of the 2 extra FRPs we just had in 2022)
Careful, the board will think you've undervalued SRPs merely by mentioning BF. That name is toxic even though a late SRP is worth 1/4 Thomas Bryant.
This is going to be my new currency around here for SRPs. How many thomas Bryant's does it translate to. Kind of like the Scaramuchi in WH tenure time.
You just witnessed live how SRPs can help you get basically eveything in the NBA. Give up already and don't get dogmatic about it like your life depends on that point. Everybody (but me) say stupid things, no need to spend hours looking for obscure examples to try to prove what everyone here know/just saw is wrong. Some FRPs also turn bad anyway, this isn't an exact science.
Can't win if you don't roll the dice.
Hey, stop making sense with the facts!! ST frowns upon that��
Or draft a Jokic…….JS
Only debating why people get giddy about them here in trades when they say stuff like oh but they're throwing in a SRP... so ing what is my point.
haha put some respekt on Scaramuchi’s name.
Lol. Define everything. If you mean slightly better draft position with like 4 or more or an NBA journeyman, then sure everything. Nothing I've said on this topic was stupid. Furthermore I'm the only one backing up my post with stats and articles.
You know I didn't mean litterally "everything", just a way of speaking. Things and markets change all the times, if you wanna fresh stats, just look what happened today, cos it's right there in front of your eyes and cos I'm done. Pointless.
We're going to be bad for a while, and have 3/4 2nd rounders (including our own) for each of the next 3 years. I think we have a real shot at moving up from our own 2nd into the latter part of the 1st round using 1 or 2 extra picks. If you think of it has having an extra late first rounder every year, it doesn't sound too bad considering we've had success drafting in that range (DJ, White, Keldon).
Yep, and can help you make a bigger trade adding one or a couple SRPs other teams won't or can't.
Plus, the more you roll the dice, the bigger the probability of getting a steal there.
There's a limit to how much you can roll the dice (can't add 4 rookies every year), but consolidating them into 2 better prospects or trade assets is a realistic path. Also, you can take a couple extra flier on draft & stash guys, like it could have been last year with Procida & Kamagate... there's usually at least one interesting draft & stash candidate every year, they don't take space on your roster, and you can always bring them if they improve enough.
It obviously depends on where the SRPs origiate but they have such limited value individually especially from lower in the second that you're going to need at least 3 if not 4 to move from say the 34th pick to the 25th pick or whatever. In some drafts that talent disparity between those 9 spots is practically nil.
So again depending on the origination of the SRP, each one is worth maaaybe 2 or 3 spots each. There's very little value in the SRP from like 42 to the end. But even multiple SRPs don't do much to move the needle more than 10-12 spots with picks in the high 30s.
Overall very overrated position. And the article I posted up top speaks to how often NBA front offices mismanage them.
Not really, as we've been discussing. Expect none of those to be above 40. Meaning they're ALL collectively worth maaaaaybe two Thomas Bryants.
And my guess is if we actually draft those positions those guys will be in the league for about 10 Scaramuchis.
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