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    What are yalls thoughts in trading atl 2025 1st, spurs 2025 1st, and another future 1st to whoever gets the #1 pick for flagg? Any snowballs chance?!
    No chance anyone trades away that #1 pick.

    Since we have 2 FRPs, I'd either consolidate them and trade up as far as possible or trade one away, maybe even both if there isn't a player PATFO really like.
    The only two players I'd surely draft are Flagg and Bailey.
    Harper seems great, but he's a guard, maybe we can get an all-star level wing for him and a couple more picks.

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    What are yalls thoughts in trading atl 2025 1st, spurs 2025 1st, and another future 1st to whoever gets the #1 pick for flagg? Any snowballs chance?!
    Sure. But the other team says no.

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    Can we discount that Flagg's pro ceiling is Keith Van Horn? Maybe that's not really a knock as KVH was fairly productive for a long stretch, just not sensational.

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    Flagged defense alone is worth more than KVHs entire game. Just because they are both white tallish players doesn’t mean they are the same.

    If you are bent on a white guy comp, at least use ak47.

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    I was skeptical that Flagg was going to be head and shoulders better than Harper or Bailey, but he's put all that to rest. He's going to be good. Whether or not he can develop a consistent 3-point shot will be the determining factor on how good (as in, All Star versus All NBA good)

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    I was skeptical that Flagg was going to be head and shoulders better than Harper or Bailey, but he's put all that to rest. He's going to be good. Whether or not he can develop a consistent 3-point shot will be the determining factor on how good (as in, All Star versus All NBA good)
    I am just curious where the league would want him to land? Charlotte is a clear NO. They are probably sick of giftwrapping the Number 1 pick to NOLA only for them to fumble it. Wizards are enticing situation and they are due. He would perfectly fit in in Utah for obvious reasons, but that's talent overkill in the West compounding the conference imbalance issues.. If have to guess Silver preferred outcome would be the Nets (It is the ratings stupid !)

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    I am just curious where the league would want him to land? Charlotte is a clear NO. They are probably sick of giftwrapping the Number 1 pick to NOLA only for them to fumble it. Wizards are enticing situation and they are due. He would perfectly fit in in Utah for obvious reasons, but that's talent overkill in the West compounding the conference imbalance issues.. If have to guess Silver preferred outcome would be the Nets (It is the ratings stupid !)
    I'm rooting for NOP to land him if we don't with the ATL pick. NO has fumbled the bag a little, but they've also gotten unlikely with AD forcing his way out and Zion being a lazy fatass. Flagg appears to be like the Bizarro Zion. I also like NOP's other young pieces. DJM (if he comes back healthy), CJ, Trey, Herb, Missi, Flagg would be a fun team and I like the league to be fun.

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    Went to Tankathon and got #2 and #11. So WTF do we do if the ATL pick hits at #2? Take Harper? Take Bailey? Take Edgecombe? Trade to Washington with Keldon for Coulibaly and #5 and take Tre Johnson? Trade it and Keldon to NOP for Trey Murphy III and a top 4 protected 2026?


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    Went to Tankathon and got #2 and #11. So WTF do we do if the ATL pick hits at #2? Take Harper? Take Bailey? Take Edgecombe? Trade to Washington with Keldon for Coulibaly and #5 and take Tre Johnson? Trade it and Keldon to NOP for Trey Murphy III and a top 4 protected 2026?

    Bailey or Edgecombe.. although your Wizards trade is quite tempting..I really like your nola trade as well....bravo..

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    Went to Tankathon and got #2 and #11. So WTF do we do if the ATL pick hits at #2? Take Harper? Take Bailey? Take Edgecombe? Trade to Washington with Keldon for Coulibaly and #5 and take Tre Johnson? Trade it and Keldon to NOP for Trey Murphy III and a top 4 protected 2026?

    While we're dreaming... Harper, but maybe Edgecombe.

    Something feels off about Bailey to me. Right now I have two likely stars in Flagg and Harper. Bailey is a maybe, or very possible, just doesn't seem like the smartest player at times.

    But Edgecombe is looking seriously underrated. He's shooting BETTER from three than either of the Rutgers guys at pretty much the same rate and is BETTER from the line, where Bailey actually kind of sucks. And Edgecombe is much better on the defensive side, not really a comparison.

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    Bailey or Edgecombe.. although your Wizards trade is quite tempting..I really like your nola trade as well....bravo..
    Nah that's scott's wet dream if the Spurs land top 4 but not #1 to take Cooper.
    Last edited by baseline bum; 02-06-2025 at 08:47 PM.

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    Went to Tankathon and got #2 and #11. So WTF do we do if the ATL pick hits at #2? Take Harper? Take Bailey? Take Edgecombe? Trade to Washington with Keldon for Coulibaly and #5 and take Tre Johnson? Trade it and Keldon to NOP for Trey Murphy III and a top 4 protected 2026?

    From purely a basketball standpoint I’m taking Ace Bailey as it would be a seamless fit at the 3. Then the Spurs can fill out their 4 position with a jumbo wing or strong forward who can defend and shoot like a PJ Washington. I just can’t see the Spurs picking Bailey as he comes across as a bit to swaggy and showy for Pop and the Spurs.

    The Spurs are obviously set at the 1 and 5 with Fox and Wemby. And I’m betting on Castle being the long term 2. That leaves the 3 and 4 spots where spurs don’t have a long term solution yet. These spots need some combination of size, defense, rebounding and shooting.

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    From purely a basketball standpoint I’m taking Ace Bailey as it would be a seamless fit at the 3. Then the Spurs can fill out their 4 position with a jumbo wing or strong forward who can defend and shoot like a PJ Washington.

    The Spurs are obviously set at the 1 and 5 with Fox and Wemby. And I’m betting on Castle being the long term 2. That leaves the 3 and 4 spots where spurs don’t have a long term solution yet. These spots need some combination of size, defense, rebounding and shooting.
    I think Castle has the size to play to allow a three guard lineup. Would be a really interesting good problem to have though after landing Fox if that Atlanta pick gets lucky.

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    While we're dreaming... Harper, but maybe Edgecombe.

    Something feels off about Bailey to me. Right now I have two likely stars in Flagg and Harper. Bailey is a maybe, or very possible, just doesn't seem like the smartest player at times.

    But Edgecombe is looking seriously underrated. He's shooting BETTER from three than either of the Rutgers guys at pretty much the same rate and is BETTER from the line, where Bailey actually kind of sucks. And Edgecombe is much better on the defensive side, not really a comparison.
    Bailey seems the obvious fit at 6'10" but if he's going to a Keldon level defender

    I really gotta watch Edgecombe

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    Bailey seems the obvious fit at 6'10" but if he's going to a Keldon level defender

    I really gotta watch Edgecombe
    Be a nice problem to have. Bailey has some question marks for me. The very low assists/tunnel vision, the puzzling shot selection (deep twos, shooting out of offensive rhythm), the not very good defense. He feels like a player still learning how to play... or just doesn't grasp certain concepts at a higher level, but is a savant shot maker.

    Edgecombe has a pretty insane 4.3 steal rate, not to mention a 3.1 block rate for a guard. Incredibly athletic, so would make rascal happy. If he can be an efficient scorer and his outside shot is real, you have insane possibility with Fox-Castle-Edgecombe on both sides of the court.

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    Be a nice problem to have. Bailey has some question marks for me. The very low assists/tunnel vision, the puzzling shot selection (deep twos, shooting out of offensive rhythm), the not very good defense. He feels like a player still learning how to play... or just doesn't grasp certain concepts at a higher level, but is a savant shot maker.

    Edgecombe has a pretty insane 4.3 steal rate, not to mention a 3.1 block rate for a guard. Incredibly athletic, so would make rascal happy. If he can be an efficient scorer and his outside shot is real, you have insane possibility with Fox-Castle-Edgecombe on both sides of the court.
    Edgecomb looks good.

    But for an athletic freak around the basket + the fact that he's hitting 39% from three, how can he be shooting 44% overall?

    He passes the eye test all day long, but that stat has me a bit concerned.

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    Went to Tankathon and got #2 and #11. So WTF do we do if the ATL pick hits at #2? Take Harper? Take Bailey? Take Edgecombe? Trade to Washington with Keldon for Coulibaly and #5 and take Tre Johnson? Trade it and Keldon to NOP for Trey Murphy III and a top 4 protected 2026?
    Is Harper a legit 6'6"? If he is, I wouldn't be opposed to a Fox/Harper/Castle 3-headed snake if you could get a stretch 4 with a little more size than Barnes or Sochan. Is there a 6'10" guy out there who can hit threes, rebound and give some decent rim protection? If there were, I'd imagine he'd be making a ton of money. Naz/Aldama/Jollins don't even fit the description. The shot blocking might be a little too much to ask.

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    I think Castle has the size to play to allow a three guard lineup. Would be a really interesting good problem to have though after landing Fox if that Atlanta pick gets lucky.
    yeah we've already done that and Paul/Vassell/Castle worked just fine. i think you just take the best player if you arent trading the pick. Fox/Harper/Castle should work, especially if the latter two continue improving their outside shot

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    Be a nice problem to have. Bailey has some question marks for me. The very low assists/tunnel vision, the puzzling shot selection (deep twos, shooting out of offensive rhythm), the not very good defense. He feels like a player still learning how to play... or just doesn't grasp certain concepts at a higher level, but is a savant shot maker.

    Edgecombe has a pretty insane 4.3 steal rate, not to mention a 3.1 block rate for a guard. Incredibly athletic, so would make rascal happy. If he can be an efficient scorer and his outside shot is real, you have insane possibility with Fox-Castle-Edgecombe on both sides of the court.
    There was an analyst who went through the draft back 10-15 yearsfor all guys around that size who had poor asst/TO ratios. A BUNCH of them busted out, and the absolute best case was…Harrison Barnes. Now I like HB, but he’s been a support piece his whole career, and while you need those guys on your roster, it’s probably not wise to spend a #2 overall pick on one. I don’t trust Bailey’s shooting either, with that 69% FT%.

    My pet cat now is Edgecomb. I love his international experience, and his defensive events are eye popping. Add that to good 3 pt shooting, and you’ve got a guy to really push Vassell to the bench.

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    Went to Tankathon and got #2 and #11. So WTF do we do if the ATL pick hits at #2? Take Harper? Take Bailey? Take Edgecombe? Trade to Washington with Keldon for Coulibaly and #5 and take Tre Johnson? Trade it and Keldon to NOP for Trey Murphy III and a top 4 protected 2026?

    Trade #2 and Keldon to UTA for Lauri, obviously.

    Could you run Fox/Castle/Harper or Fox/Castle/VJ or Fox/Castle/Tre together? I know absolutely nothing about this draft other than the consensus #1 pick is named after the bad guy from Stephen King’s books

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    It just occurred to me... even without winning the lottery last year, we may have gotten the best player from each draft two drafts in a row

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    Flagged defense alone is worth more than KVHs entire game. Just because they are both white tallish players doesn’t mean they are the same.

    If you are bent on a white guy comp, at least use ak47.
    Just the novelty is intriguing. Been following ball since 1990 and never seen American Anglo with his much hype. Not unlike a basketball version of the Caitlyn Clark phenomenon from a few year back

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    Actually, considering our newest offense initiator is left handed, it’s not. Sacto used the right handed Malik Monk to run the pick and rolls with the left handed Sabonis. Fox and Sabo struggled to click on the PnR.
    He would have an advantage defensively, especially when it comes to blocking shots.

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    If we miraculously get pick 2 I’d take Harper and not overthink it. Nowadays you need multiple ball handlers and worst case scenario you’d have a Haliburton to trade for something good.

    Bailey’s and Edgecombe’s athletic profiles are tantalising though.

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    If the Spurs don’t luck out in the lottery I’m warming up to Sorber. Generates stocks, positive AST/TO, and while not a long range threat he does shoot 73% on free throws.

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