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    Again with the small sample size theater to push an agenda.

    Naturally their defense would be better without him but this is an offense first league and whatever they gain on defense they'll more than lose on offense in the long run without him.
    small sample size but so far Atlanta is winning with better defense, that's the reality.

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    DJ is averaging 24.3/6.1/8.4/1.4 since Trae went down, while shooting 36% from 3 on 7.1 attempts. Honestly not a huge disparity between the 2. Small sample size, but DJ averages 21.8/5.3/5.7 for the season, so it's not far fetched that he could keep this up as a starting PG.

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    small sample size but so far Atlanta is winning with better defense, that's the reality.
    Well then Branham is one of the best shooters in the league.

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    Well then Branham is one of the best shooters in the league.
    we'll see in the long run if that continues but for now Atlanta seems to be playing better

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    DJ is averaging 24.3/6.1/8.4/1.4 since Trae went down, while shooting 36% from 3 on 7.1 attempts. Honestly not a huge disparity between the 2. Small sample size, but DJ averages 21.8/5.3/5.7 for the season, so it's not far fetched that he could keep this up as a starting PG.

    Of course it isn’t far fetched. Recall DJM as a Spur in 2021-22. 68 games, 34.8 min/game, plenty of data.

    21.1 points, 9.2 assists, 8.3 rebounds, 2.0 steals.

    From his known record, DJM can give them the stats, including more assists.

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    ATL has held their opponents to below or at 100 in the last 7 games since Trae went down. Small sampe size? or is ATL a top 5 defense without him.

    The Nets beat the Hawks twice, scoring 124 and 114. Recheck your data. You are probably looking at the wrong column.

    Also, Knicks game, neither Brunson nor Anunoby played. Randall is still out.

    Cavs, no Mitc , no Mobley, no Strus.

    Memphis, still a train wreck, with all the injuries.

    There’s nothing much to see there, to provide a basis for judgment.

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    It seems DJ is over being butt hurt about trade rumors and back on twitter.


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    Damn Dejounte needs to get off social media.

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    Nobody wants DJ back on this team. We built him up just to get Wemby. Let that immature brat go to LA. It's the perfect place for him.

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    Nobody wants DJ back on this team. We built him up just to get Wemby. Let that immature brat go to LA. It's the perfect place for him.
    DJ was asked about these rumors before the deadline and he spoke fondly of his time in SA. You of course have no way of knowing how a Hawk or Spurs executive feels.

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    DJ was asked about these rumors before the deadline and he spoke fondly of his time in SA. You of course have no way of knowing how a Hawk or Spurs executive feels.
    Good thing is we know how DJ thinks ( as seen with Jack the Flipper in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VZykbSv7nk). Also he's been active on social media criticizing the Spurs before. Do I know how they feel? No. However, executives have been petty in the past and refused to deal with teams for many reasons (i.e. CP3 to LA). Trae is a better scorer and facilitator and a legit star. Did DJ lead his team to the WCF or to the first round? No. Trae is worth trading for in the right deal. DJ already got us Wemby, and if the GOAT stays in SA his whole career, you can put DJ in the hall of fame just for helping us get Wemby for all I care lol.

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    I never said he didn’t have input, but so do other people. Do you think if Pop and RC weren’t on board that he would have chosen any of his picks? I guarantee you Pop’s fingerprints are all over every pick.
    Please, I've seen people guarantee that Pop did NOT have his fingerprints all over the draft, he wasn't a micromanager, and ever since RC became GM however many years ago that Pop spent his summers with wine and relaxation and gave input when asked.

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    He delegated the day to day for a reason. And coaches don't have time during a season to scout the draft, they depend on the front office, and Pop has the money the money and the le

    , I've seen Pop with his own mouth absolve himself of any responsibility for the Scola trade. I've also seen Pop blame unnamed underlings for not drafting Nocioni over confusion on his age and eligiblity, Pop wasn't responsible and was mad about it.

    So once again and always, when Spurs fans want to deflect blame or responsibility, they'll twist themselves into knots

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    "Pop isn't a bad coach, he doesn't choose the roster ... Wright may be GM but he doesn't do anything, it's all Pop ... It's not Pop making moves, it's RC .... It's not RC anymore because he's so old that he's winding things down that's why he promoted Wright .... It's not the front office it's ownership ... It's not ownership it's the front office ... "

    If Wright is being hamstrung by trusting bad scouts beneath him, then he needs to hire better scouts. If he never wanted Primo but was overruled, then he needs to learn to advocate for his viewpoint harder and better.

    But I doubt any of that is true. When Schlenck as GM was overruled on trading for Murray, he wasn't sticking around. He got out and made sure the media knew that wasn't him.

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    Please, I've seen people guarantee that Pop did NOT have his fingerprints all over the draft, he wasn't a micromanager, and ever since RC became GM however many years ago that Pop spent his summers with wine and relaxation and gave input when asked.

    BUT

    He delegated the day to day for a reason. And coaches don't have time during a season to scout the draft, they depend on the front office, and Pop has the money the money and the le

    , I've seen Pop with his own mouth absolve himself of any responsibility for the Scola trade. I've also seen Pop blame unnamed underlings for not drafting Nocioni over confusion on his age and eligiblity, Pop wasn't responsible and was mad about it.

    So once again and always, when Spurs fans want to deflect blame or responsibility, they'll twist themselves into knots

    e.g.

    "Pop isn't a bad coach, he doesn't choose the roster ... Wright may be GM but he doesn't do anything, it's all Pop ... It's not Pop making moves, it's RC .... It's not RC anymore because he's so old that he's winding things down that's why he promoted Wright .... It's not the front office it's ownership ... It's not ownership it's the front office ... "

    If Wright is being hamstrung by trusting bad scouts beneath him, then he needs to hire better scouts. If he never wanted Primo but was overruled, then he needs to learn to advocate for his viewpoint harder and better.

    But I doubt any of that is true. When Schlenck as GM was overruled on trading for Murray, he wasn't sticking around. He got out and made sure the media knew that wasn't him.
    Pop and RC's level of involvement these days seems to depend on whatever is convenient for whatever argument ST posters want to make. The fact is, that their level of involvement is unclear from the outside looking it... which is probably how they like it.

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    Wright is an unestablished minority in a role few who look like him get to. The notion that he'd give up his job that easily (especially now) due to lack of autonomy is asinine.

    Let's face it, none of us know how much power he has. What we do know is he's not the highest ranking basketball executive.

    Yet certain people are bent on blaming him. Wonder why.

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    Wright is an unestablished minority in a role few who look like him get to. The notion that he'd give up his job that easily (especially now) due to lack of autonomy is asinine.

    Let's face it, none of us know how much power he has. What we do know is he's not the highest ranking basketball executive.

    Yet certain people are bent on blaming him. Wonder why.
    I wonder why the guy who was promoted to General Manager and is the one who addresses the media on draft night and is the one in all the draft pick press conferences and talking to the media at summer league and is doing exactly what general managers do would be treated like a general manager

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    Good thing is we know how DJ thinks ( as seen with Jack the Flipper in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VZykbSv7nk). Also he's been active on social media criticizing the Spurs before. Do I know how they feel? No. However, executives have been petty in the past and refused to deal with teams for many reasons (i.e. CP3 to LA). Trae is a better scorer and facilitator and a legit star. Did DJ lead his team to the WCF or to the first round? No. Trae is worth trading for in the right deal. DJ already got us Wemby, and if the GOAT stays in SA his whole career, you can put DJ in the hall of fame just for helping us get Wemby for all I care lol.
    I have been reading and listening to DJ for awhile. All I can say is it is never too late for someone to get over themselves and stop reacting. He was asked about SA recently and had nice things to say.

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    Pop and RC's level of involvement these days seems to depend on whatever is convenient for whatever argument ST posters want to make. The fact is, that their level of involvement is unclear from the outside looking it... which is probably how they like it.
    Nonsense. Their level of involvement is significant.

    The stupidity is fixating on Wright so you can fixate on Primo --2 picks in five years DERP!-- while ignoring decades of relevant information.

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    The one break I'll give Wright is Samanic who was supposed to be an RC favorite and it was right around the time of transition of le and duties so I'll give Wright the benefit of the doubt and mark it was Samanic for RC and Keldon being the start of the Wright era

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    Nonsense. Their level of involvement is significant.

    The stupidity is fixating on Wright so you can fixate on Primo --2 picks in five years DERP!-- while ignoring decades of relevant information.
    Mere hypothesizing. Another worthless post from a worthless poster.

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    Mere hypothesizing. Another worthless post from a worthless poster.
    Yes, the former GM and current head executive and the other former GM and current head coach with league leading skins on the wall have no significant input on team decisions.

    I'm glad I have reduced you to a petulant whine.

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    Yes, the former GM and current head executive and the other former GM and current head coach with league leading skins on the wall have no significant input on team decisions.

    I'm glad I have reduced you to a petulant whine.
    Previous poster provided plenty of reasons why their role is unclear. Your contra opinion is based on... "one guy used to have the job, and the other guy has a lofty le... and they've won be for... so they must be 'significantly' involved". As elementary as your logic is, I guess it's better than your other MO of simply making up.

    You're in your fallback defense mechanism of calling anyone who calls out your bull "petulant" - it's become a pretty clear tell. Diversify your bag.

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    I wonder why the guy who was promoted to General Manager and is the one who addresses the media on draft night and is the one in all the draft pick press conferences and talking to the media at summer league and is doing exactly what general managers do would be treated like a general manager
    President of Basketball Operations is the top of the basketball executive pyramid (well technically; in reality certain meddlesome owners are). That le belongs to Pop. Whatever involvement Buford still has, if you think a relative neophyte like Wright is going to have more say than him, you've lost the plot.

    This is not to absolve Wright, but to contextualize his role. The notion that he's unilaterally making decisions is absurd.

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    The Nets beat the Hawks twice, scoring 124 and 114. Recheck your data. You are probably looking at the wrong column.

    Also, Knicks game, neither Brunson nor Anunoby played. Randall is still out.

    Cavs, no Mitc , no Mobley, no Strus.

    Memphis, still a train wreck, with all the injuries.

    There’s nothing much to see there, to provide a basis for judgment.
    Some people really have no clue what's going on in these games. They've faced nothing but beat up bench teams and the one team decently healthy beat them twice. And that team was the Nets.

    That being said, I do think DJ would be a great fit next to wemby if his 3 ball is for real.

    So would trae though.

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    Previous poster provided plenty of reasons why their role is unclear. Your contra opinion is based on... "one guy used to have the job, and the other guy has a lofty le... and they've won be for... so they must be 'significantly' involved". As elementary as your logic is, I guess it's better than your other MO of simply making up.

    You're in your fallback defense mechanism of calling anyone who calls out your bull "petulant" - it's become a pretty clear tell. Diversify your bag.
    Most of this post is you whining about me. All but two sentences. Petulant fits rather well on a consistent basis. I can see why you wouldn't like that but it remains the same nonetheless.

    Frankly, I don't feel any need whatsoever to constantly reinvent what is plain as day.

    Of course there is uncertainty given the Spurs obvious penchant for opaqueness. The typical argument from the mouthbreathers crew is that Wright is the GM and using that to bias from 5 years. There really is no other argument that surrounds the uncertainty.

    Of course Popovich is still the President and Buford the CEO keeping that argument pretty damn stupid.

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    …, I do think DJ would be a great fit next to wemby if his 3 ball is for real.

    DJM’s 3pt shooting is fully credible. He’s shooting .360 on moderate volume of 6.4 per game. It’s good enough that his defender needs to be aware of him at the arc, but no need to make it the major focus of a game plan.

    The major threat a defense would face from a DJM & Wemby pairing would be the pick’n’roll. It appears to me. Well practiced, that could be like trying to stop an avalanche.

    DJM can stop and pop. He has a nice midrange game. He can also do a good job of taking the ball on in for a layup. As best I recall, he showed some good ability to thread the needle with bounce passes to Poeltl on the p&r. For passes over the top, Poeltl wasn’t much of a lob threat but Wemby sure as heck is.

    So, what I mean is, against p&r, the defense would have to deal with all four of those at the same time: DJM stops &pops, or DJM layup, or bounce pass to Wemby for dunk, or lob to Wemby for dunk. It’s a defensive nightmare. In theory. But there’s nothing impossible about any of it.

    Certainly 3pt shooting ability is good. Gotta have it these days. But the p&r possibilities with Wemby intrigue me more.

    Whether DJM or Trae is available depends on what Atlanta decides to do. Tank, or not? I have no way of knowing.

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