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    [FONT="]All-Star shooting guard Jimmy Butler reportedly has "no intentions" of signing a contract extension with the Minnesota Timberwolves, due to issues with his teammates. [/FONT]
    A trade partner emerges?
    Hmmm. What's the success of teams trading their headaches with each other?

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    idk if the wolves would want to trade for a player with the same intent as the one going out. Never know tho.

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    [FONT="]All-Star shooting guard Jimmy Butler reportedly has "no intentions" of signing a contract extension with the Minnesota Timberwolves, due to issues with his teammates. [/FONT]
    A trade partner emerges?
    A lot of ST posters who claim to know more about Butler than I have suggested that he is not Spurs material. I dunno.

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    Sending Kawhi to NBA Siberia...er the T'Wolves.

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    idk if the wolves would want to trade for a player with the same intent as the one going out. Never know tho.
    Rumor is, Butler is fed up with KAT (?) If so, it would be getting rid of him to avoid locker room issues, if that's true. Tho RIP to Kawhi's quad playing under Thibs if they got swapped

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    They have been with him in the locker room, in practices, in the gym and on the court for the 9 games he played in. They know he a) can play, b) can help them significantly (he had the highest wp/48 for team over the season!) and c) having been around him for years, can probably tell he's not hurting that much....

    This is why Tony and Manu made their comments - it was a last ditch attempt to get KL to man up by shaming him... and it failed.

    So quit spinning this as non-communication. It's that KL threw the entire team's season under the bus.
    Like Kawhi was the same player we knew in those 9 games, right? Like he looks so well in those games... However, I agree with you that those Parker/Ginobili words weren't simple comments and had other intentions.

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    Kawhi’s move at this point would be just to show up and play out the last year of his contract, and let the Spurs be the ones to take action if they don’t want him in the locker room or whatever.

    He tried to get traded to L.A. this summer, but it didn’t work. So he’ll have to sign a four-year deal in L.A. next summer instead of a five-year, and take the risk.

    By the way, his group’s nonchalance about the fifth guaranteed year tells you everything you need to know about any ostensible concern they might have regarding any kind of chronic degenerative condition.

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    If there is that much uncertainty about his health and he wanted out, he should be more agreeable to sign an extension with any time offering to trade for him. Then he's not a 1 year rental ...
    true. But this is all about money. I think while he has some leverage he's insisting on the market that he wants. He already will lose a lot of money from leaving the supermax to take what max the team he's traded to can offer him. He's hoping to recoup the loss somewhat with endorsement and other deals. He will also gain popularity playing in LA and other boosts that come from playing for the Lakers, like All Star appearances even if he's 50% for the season bc he's on that team, etc. You know how it goes. So while he has some leverage, he's insisting on the market he wants. He's not going to recoup any losses on the supermax playing in Charlotte for example and he knows it.

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    Rumor is, Butler is fed up with KAT (?) If so, it would be getting rid of him to avoid locker room issues, if that's true. Tho RIP to Kawhi's quad playing under Thibs if they got swapped
    First it was Wiggins and now KaT? Butler also had issues in Chicago with Rose, Hoidberg, & others. Don't know if he's a cancer or it's just coincidence.

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    It really is weird. The offers must also be absolute dog or he'd be gone by now.
    The Spurs were unsure and not entirely committed to trading KL and now that the Lakers have landed LeBron the possibility to get good offers are drying up.
    PATFO dragged their feet with their own uncertainty and now are in a worse situation about getting any value back for KL.

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    Kawhi’s move at this point would be just to show up and play out the last year of his contract, and let the Spurs be the ones to take action if they don’t want him in the locker room or whatever.

    He tried to get traded to L.A. this summer, but it didn’t work. So he’ll have to sign a four-year deal in L.A. next summer instead of a five-year, and take the risk.

    By the way, his group’s nonchalance about the fifth guaranteed year tells you everything you need to know about any ostensible concern they might have regarding any kind of chronic degenerative condition.
    Yes. He has to play next season bc his own market as a player also declines if he continues to be injured. Someone, like 20 pages back mentioned that he should feel as offended as Paul Goerge, that the Lakers didn't put a package together for him to get this deal done this season. He's out there saying he wants to play for them and the Lakers are holding on to mediocre players (young and some can get better but it's not a sure thing) and not getting this thing done. They are taking him for granted, just like they did Paul George.

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    did not rc say publicly the supermax was still a possibility
    No, he never said this.

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    I guess we -the fans- are not that rational if we keep talking about a supermax contract that the Spurs never offered and won't do it...

    I hate to agree with Chinook in something but he's right, the Spurs didn't and won't give him that deal.
    Why the hesitation in agreeing with Chinook? He's clearly one of the smartest basketball minds on this board, whether you agree with his takes or not.

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    No that’s never been confirmed. It’s all just speculation. In fact I can’t remember reading in all of this thread any concrete information. Just a bunch of conflicting reports and trash media people saying they’re “sources”
    Jabari, whom you would think has inside sources with Kawhi's camp, has most definitely intimated exactly that he has not been offered the supermax. Take that for what value you place on Jabari's credibility though.

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    well there is no way leonard has been offered the supermax because the spurs can't offer it until July 16th.

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    The Spurs were unsure and not entirely committed to trading KL and now that the Lakers have landed LeBron the possibility to get good offers are drying up.
    PATFO dragged their feet with their own uncertainty and now are in a worse situation about getting any value back for KL.
    Dumb.

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    It's hard to offer a guy who has some strange injury the supermax. If he balled out this year, it makes that decision much easier. Even if it was for half a season.

    We'll see if anything changes
    Don't be naive.

    It's not about the injury.

    The Spurs could have a meeting with his doctors or just ask him to schedule summer workouts with someone Spurs trust...It won't be the first time that a team watch a player works in offseason...

    There is no decision to make...Things won't change because the Spurs don't like Kawhi's people, they feel they can't trust them long term. But that people it's his family, he won't leave his fam for any NBA team.

    The Spurs will trade Kawhi, tomorrow, next week, before deadline...Again, it's just a matter of time.

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    Rumor is, Butler is fed up with KAT (?) If so, it would be getting rid of him to avoid locker room issues, if that's true. Tho RIP to Kawhi's quad playing under Thibs if they got swapped
    Makes me wonder how Butler would coexist with Touches.

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    Sending Kawhi to NBA Siberia...er the T'Wolves.
    Yes, do it RC.

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    Apparently Kyrie and Butler want to team up now or in free agency. Kawhi for Butler and then we get Kyrie in free agency? Who says no??

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    Jabari sucks but Uncle Dennis is obviously using him as his mouthpiece. Its why he's coming off so pro-Kawhitter. He's pretty credible when it comes to the Kawhitter camp, imo.

    He reported that the rift between the two sides was overblown, that an extension was likely. Then all tell broke loose when PATFO leaked the supermax stuff Woj. Idk if PATFO was being spiteful, if they expected a discount, or if they feared that he would just bolt after a year anyway...but that leak was unnecessary either way. The meeting in NY was going to take place anyway, why not just discuss that there? Obviously, Kawhitter and his group of amateurs share most of the blame but PATFO didn't handle that well, imo.

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    Makes me wonder how Butler would coexist with Touches.
    At least touches works hard. It was more about the nonchalant at ude of KAT and the other young guys on the team

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    Why the hesitation in agreeing with Chinook? He's clearly one of the smartest basketball minds on this board, whether you agree with his takes or not.
    I dont trust him as "analyst".

    He said about Kawhi in previous years:

    -his defense is overrated

    -he won't be a scorer, nor a first option on an elite team

    -and his famous "if Parker is having an Indian Summer Kawhi should trot to the corner and wait for.." from 2016 season.

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    He said about Kawhi in previous years:

    -his defense is overrated

    -he won't be a scorer, nor a first option on an elite team

    -and his famous "if Parker is having an Indian Summer Kawhi should trot to the corner and wait for.." from 2016 season.

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    Don't be naive.

    It's not about the injury.

    The Spurs could have a meeting with his doctors or just ask him to schedule summer workouts with someone Spurs trust...It won't be the first time that a team watch a player works in offseason...

    There is no decision to make...Things won't change because the Spurs don't like Kawhi's people, they feel they can't trust them long term. But that people it's his family, he won't leave his fam for any NBA team.

    The Spurs will trade Kawhi, tomorrow, next week, before deadline...Again, it's just a matter of time.
    Or, his family just wants to be in LA and the Spurs know that. So of course they aren't thrilled with them having Kawhi sit out all year just to leave them high and dry, while they endure the brunt of the questions.

    And yea, if Kawhi played last season and tore it up, it's silly to think they wouldn't offer him that

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