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    Nice editing of ty formatting. You mad?

    Your arguments are like ping pong balls and I keep smashing them as fast as you lob one over.
    Im gonna start keeping track of how many posts you write before you answer whether they should lift the 1986 Hyde Amendment ban on fully automatic weapons.

    Lets call this ONE.

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    Im gonna start keeping track of how many posts you write before you answer whether they should lift the 1986 Hyde Amendment ban on fully automatic weapons.

    Lets call this ONE.
    Try again.

    There is/was no ban on automatic weapons. There was only the ban on manufacture for sale to the public.

    A ban means there can be none, but there are plenty.


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    Im gonna start keeping track of how many posts you write before you answer whether they should lift the 1986 Hyde Amendment ban on fully automatic weapons.

    Lets call this ONE.
    I would keep track of how many solid takes you've had in this thread, but I can't, as you haven't had any yet....

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    You aren't going to be on the USSC, so for you, it's not debatable.
    I'm not in a court room so for me, it is debatable.

    And if another gun case makes it's way up the scotus, then it will be debated in court again.... with a possible overturn.

    Once the USSC issues a ruling, that's what it is. Roe v Wade might get debated in little circles of useless banter, but abortion clinics don't go on standby awaiting your decisions.
    If you find the banter useless, nobody is putting a swimming pool to your head to reply.

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    I just don't get why da_suns_fan keeps coming back in here to get shat on, tbh.... at some point, you have to admit when you've lost the argument, right?
    When your deflection involves making jokes about walmart and attacking the other's formatting, you know youve LOST the argument.


    I'll ask you same question ClipperNation. Should they lift the automatic weapons ban? Should you be able to walk in "Guns Galore" and buy a fully automatic, state-of-the-art automatic machine gun?

    Lets see if you'll do what DMC is afraid to.

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    Try again.

    There is/was no ban on automatic weapons. There was only the ban on manufacture for sale to the public.

    A ban means there can be none, but there are plenty.


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    TWO.

    Should they lift the ban, buddy?

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    the point being is that if it was debatable for 200 years, then a 5-4 scotus decision 4 years ago doesn't suddenly end the historical/contextual debate.
    No, your point (wrongly) was that the BoR doesn't grant him the right to own a firearm when the USSC expressly disagrees as to the intent of the 2nd Amendment, and these are career law scholars of the highest order.

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    TWO.

    Should they lift the ban, buddy?
    I hope not. If they do, my guns won't be worth . You will be able to get a 25K MP5 for 1500.00

    You don't get it. Not surprising. Gun dealers make the most when gets regulated. Supply/demand.

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    No, your point (wrongly) was that the BoR doesn't grant him the right to own a firearm when the USSC expressly disagrees as to the intent of the 2nd Amendment, and these are career law scholars of the highest order.
    Three!!

    Interesting that they allowed the Hyde Amendment, yes?

    Should we lift it?

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    Should they lift the automatic weapons ban? Should you be able to walk in "Guns Galore" and buy a fully automatic, state-of-the-art automatic machine gun?
    Who's "they"? Considering your past arguments, you probably mean the federal government, who never really had the jurisdiction to ban them in the first place, as it's a state issue, tbh...

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    I hope not. If they do, my guns won't be worth . You will be able to get a 25K MP5 for 1500.00
    FOUR!

    I asked if they should lift the ban, not what your guns would be worth if they did.

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    Still zero solid takes in this thread
    Doesn't know the difference between state and federal

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    FOUR!

    I asked if they should lift the ban, not what your guns would be worth if they did.
    Do you mean to ask me if I want them to lift it? How can "ought" be anything other than what I would like to see happen?

    You're an idiot. Avante >>> you

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    Who's "they"? Considering your past arguments, you probably mean the federal government, who never really had the jurisdiction to ban them in the first place, as it's a state issue, tbh...
    "They" in this context is the federal government.

    And as DMC has correctly pointed out, they (the federal government) banned the manufacturing and selling of fully automatic weapons to the public since 1986.

    So should they lift that ban? If a state wants to allow fully-automatics, should they be able to?

    Armor piercing bullets (also illegal)?

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    Avante >>> you
    His arguing skills are about as bad as Avante's, tbh.... they both just repeat their takes over and over again and ignore any facts that contradict their argument....

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    Who's "they"? Considering your past arguments, you probably mean the federal government, who never really had the jurisdiction to ban them in the first place, as it's a state issue, tbh...
    Which is why they banned FFL (Federal Firearm Licensed) individuals from selling, and manufacturers from manufacturing for sale to the public.

    Class 3 and FFL are federal jurisdictions, BATF.

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    No, your point (wrongly) was that the BoR doesn't grant him the right to own a firearm when the USSC expressly disagrees as to the intent of the 2nd Amendment, and these are career law scholars of the highest order.
    you are wrongly trying to tell me what my point is.

    And ftr, 4 of the law scholars of the highest order dissented. Just one more vote the other way would have flipped the decision.

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    Do you mean to ask me if I want them to lift it? How can "ought" be anything other than what I would like to see happen?

    You're an idiot. Avante >>> you
    Five!

    You have been seriously owned.

    Im simply asking if you believe that an existing ban that you admitted exists should be lifted and youre too chicken- to answer it.

    Just tell me your opinion, bro! It aint hard!

    I personally think they should keep the ban and even go further.

    See? I just did it!

    What is YOUR opinion?

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    "They" in this context is the federal government.

    And as DMC has correctly pointed out, they (the federal government) banned the manufacturing and selling of fully automatic weapons to the public since 1986.

    So should they lift that ban? If a state wants to allow fully-automatics, should they be able to?

    Armor piercing bullets (also illegal)?
    cookie cutter liberal takes

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    "They" in this context is the federal government.
    That's the biggest problem with all your points right there... gun laws should be (and generally are) a state issue, not a federal issue, tbh...

    And as DMC has correctly pointed out, they (the federal government) banned the manufacturing and selling of fully automatic weapons to the public since 1986.

    So should they lift that ban?
    Yes they should.... it should be up to the states to decide, not the federal government...

    If a state wants to allow fully-automatics, should they be able to?
    If the state voters decide it's appropriate for them, then who are the rest of us to question their decision? I don't think any civilian needs a fully automatic, but if a state's population decides they do, that's their decision and we have to accept it....

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    His arguing skills are about as bad as Avante's, tbh.... they both just repeat their takes over and over again and ignore any facts that contradict their argument....
    Nonsense. Youre too proud to answer the question (as is DMC).

    Both of you are backed into a corner and are panicking because you just realized everyones point.

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    Nonsense. Youre too proud to answer the question (as is DMC).
    I answered the question, B....

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    cookie cutter liberal takes
    Six!!

    Cmon dude! If you think they should be legal, have the GUTS to say it.

    Cmon, be a man.

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    Five!

    You have been seriously owned.

    Im simply asking if you believe that an existing ban that you admitted exists should be lifted and youre too chicken- to answer it.

    Just tell me your opinion, bro! It aint hard!

    I personally think they should keep the ban and even go further.

    See? I just did it!

    What is YOUR opinion?
    I hope not. If they do, my guns won't be worth . You will be able to get a 25K MP5 for 1500.00

    You don't get it. Not surprising. Gun dealers make the most when gets regulated. Supply/demand.

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    Learn to read.

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    If you think they should be legal, have the GUTS to say it.
    You're a dumbass if you truly think the federal government lifting the ban on fully-automatic guns automatically means they'll be legal.... the states can then ban them at the state level....

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