Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[YGWHI]

Yeah, and that's probably not a good thing in Kiwhi's mind...

Nah..LMA is an inferior player, Kawhi never felt threatened by him, that was the other way around. LMA felt miserable and played at very low level for Kawhi's superstar level and MVP candidacy.

Without Kawhi on the team or any other player who could overshadow him, LMA is the happiest man in the world.

[DPG21920]

So by PHI fans who think SA has no leverage (everyone is obsessed with leverage vs the actual player ), I’ve been told trading Fultz for Kawhi would be selling low on Fultz.

By Laker fans I’ve been told that trading for an injured Kawhi if it meant sending out Ingram/Kuz would make them worse because of potential and depth.

[RD2191]

Man, what a strange situation. Almost feels like Kawhi is being held hostage by his group or some .

[Marcus Bryant]

Impact Sports has been attempting a FAILED pivot into basketball. The NY investor dropped $10MM into a hot mess and wants a return. Impact Sports fired Kawhi's legit NBA agent and then wanted to become a group like LBJ's agency. LeBron is kind of a dolt with great basketball ability, but KL is not the guy you want to sell sneakers or sodas or cars. Tim Duncan was a much better player than Kawhi will ever be and he never sold stuff. KL should have grown a personality as a child and perhaps the situation would be different. He is not an icon, he is not a Hollywood star. He is a basketball player first, last, and always. Nothing else.

If they were any good Kawhi would have plenty of endorsements by now. Market size is a crutch.

[Marcus Bryant]

Man, what a strange situation. Almost feels like Kawhi is being held hostage by his group or some .

Kawhi, blink twice if true.

[DPG21920]

Nah..LMA is an inferior player, Kawhi never felt threatened by him, that was the other way around. LMA felt miserable and played at very low level for Kawhi's superstar level and MVP candidacy.

Without Kawhi on the team or any other player who could overshadow him, LMA is the happiest man in the world.

Huh? By what metric did LMA play at a low level? He dropped massive games vs OKC. Beat HOU on the road while Kawhi sat. Graded out very, very well overall, especially defensively next to Kawhi.

[Harry Callahan]

That is satisfying to hear that possibly the dirty tactics of that agency is being unveiled thanks to Pop and front office. I've always given a benefit of doubt to Kawhi until all these dirty tactics and sabotaging started to happen. For all the flack Pop and front office deserve about being too boring, stubborn, and not superstar friendly, they have always dealt in "good faith". Even Stephen Jackson who got kicked out in the middle of the playoffs had nothing bad to say about Pop and the way they handled it. It's a business. I will even put less blame on the uncle who saw the green from those dirty R.E. ventures as proof they could get Kawhi more money, but that dirty, spoiled, son of a R.E. mogul agent is obviously not to be trusted and has caused so much needless damage for Kawhi, his family, and the reputation of the Spurs. Pray patience prevails. GJ RC and Pop: Staying silent but deadly when it matters...

SpursDynasty,

I read the FORBES magazine article on the son of the RE guy - he's from NY and stated the Bucks and Hawks were not worthy of buying. Can you imagine his opinion of the San Antonio Spurs? He probably thinks SA is nothing but horses and tumbleweeds. The real slaves in this situation are the Leonard Family to Impact Sports. Impact is holding KL hostage as they try to build a sports agency. The $10MM investment must get a return. Remember, the $10MM investment in Impact hit in Feb 2017 right before all the trouble stated. Mr. Elfus (KLs former/legit agent was fired by Impact - early 2016 The focus on Basketball players is due to profit margin for the agency. Football does not cash flow like basketball. Essentially, Impact Sports basketball division IS Kawhi Leonard. Nobody else is interested in what they have to offer, namely a bad product with lousy customer service that in the end costs you money.

[DPG21920]

I find it funny people are talking about 10M when Kawhi could have signed a 220M contract

[YGWHI]

I agree about LMA. He may be a 'diva' who cares too much about his touches and isn't necessarily a championship level centerpiece...

Trading Kawhi creates a max spot next season, I'd love if the Spurs look for a franchise player that can be a championship level centerpiece...There will be enough great FAs.

[cd021]

According to the report that came out yesterday-the Spurs asking price;
Kuzma, Hart, and Ingram plus 2019 and 2021 1st rounder's from the Lakers

Or


two players (probably Covington and Saric based on an older report) and three first rounder's from the 76ers.

I doubt that the Lakers make a move for Kawhi, instead waiting to after next season, while the 76ers still might but PATFO is going to have to come down a bit.

Covington, Saric, Miami's 2021 unprotected first round pick, 76ers 2019 first round pick, and the Knicks 2019 2nd rounder is probably a more realistic ask unless the Spurs do really want Fultz included.

[DPG21920]

Trading Kawhi creates a max spot next season, I'd love if the Spurs look for a franchise player that can be a championship level centerpiece...There will be enough great FAs.

It depends on what they trade Kawhi for. It’s hard to attract true stars. LA is a mega market and had crazy cap space for years and the best they could do was Deng/Mozgov over pays until Lebron saved them.

PHI has a ton of cap space and a great core and got spurned by everyone this year.

SA has done a really good job like landing LMA, but it’s tough.

[DPG21920]

According to the report that came out yesterday-the Spurs asking price;
Kuzma, Hart, and Ingram plus 2019 and 2021 1st rounder's from the Lakers

Or


two players (probably Covington and Saric based on an older report) and three first rounder's from the 76ers.

I doubt that the Lakers make a move for Kawhi, instead waiting to after next season, while the 76ers still might but PATFO is going to have to come down a bit.

Covington, Saric, Miami's 2021 unprotected first round pick, 76ers 2019 first round pick, and the Knicks 2019 2nd rounder is probably a more realistic ask unless the Spurs do really want Fultz included.

If the Lakers don’t trade for Kawhi they won’t get him next year IMO.

[YGWHI]

Huh? By what metric did LMA play at a low level? He dropped massive games vs OKC. Beat HOU on the road while Kawhi sat. Graded out very, very well overall, especially defensively next to Kawhi.

Really? 2017 was the worst regular season of his career. Also, he disappeared in many playoffs games, that's why Pop called him out in front of media saying "he can't be timid"

[Extra Stout]

Man, what a strange situation. Almost feels like Kawhi is being held hostage by his group or some .

Blind, unwavering loyalty to family members, with refusal to hold them accountable for their actions, to the point of destroying oneself to cover for them, is an underrated social pathology among certain underprivileged groups.

[Clipper Nation]

KL will not attract other players to the Clippers. Money might. The rich, socially challenged Ballmer has all the money. Doc has no players to coach out there right now. The Clips are a glorified D League team.

What do they have to give to SA? Not sure they can make a trade that works. They just finished running off the three quality players they had in the last 12 months. Total rebuild.

Our roster isn't loaded with superstars or anything, but it's not a "glorified D-League team" either.

And the Clippers didn't run anyone off. CP0 and DJ wanted to leave. Blake wanted to stay, but the front office had second thoughts about his contract and found a trade for him. Even then, that wasn't really "running off." "Running off" is what Kobe did to Shaq and MVPau.

[Marcus Bryant]

Update on the Spurs' asking price:

[DPG21920]

Really? 2017 was the worst regular season of his career. Also, he disappeared in many playoffs games, that's why Pop called him out in front of media saying "he can't be timid"

Sure, but you are acting like he played terrible the entire time. His first season with SA he graded out well and dropped 2 masssive games vs OKC. Even in his “bad” year, he still wasn’t bad and he crapped on HOU when Kawhi sat to get SA to the WCF.

[duncan2150]

If the Lakers don’t trade for Kawhi they won’t get him next year IMO.

I have the same feeling. If they don't have KL this year, they face a KL resign with Spurs or a trade to another team....

I don't think the Lakers are going to wait a year but if they Don't give Something the Spurs want, they will say Goodbye to KL.

[Harry Callahan]

Our roster isn't loaded with superstars or anything, but it's not a "glorified D-League team" either.

And the Clippers didn't run anyone off. CP0 and DJ wanted to leave. Blake wanted to stay, but the front office had second thoughts about his contract and found a trade for him. Even then, that wasn't really "running off." "Running off" is what Kobe did to Shaq and MVPau.

Sorry. I'm just mad right now about this entire situation. I'll just say they (Clips) are in a strong rebuild mode and just lost their three top players in the last 12 months. That is accurate.

[YGWHI]

It depends on what they trade Kawhi for. It’s hard to attract true stars. LA is a mega market and had crazy cap space for years and the best they could do was Deng/Mozgov over pays until Lebron saved them.

PHI has a ton of cap space and a great core and got spurned by everyone this year.

SA has done a really good job like landing LMA, but it’s tough.

I'm having a good morning, don't ruin it with reality. If I say the Spurs will find a franchise player who can be a championship centerpiece, next season...They will.

[DPG21920]

I'm having a good morning, don't ruin it with reality. If I say the Spurs will find a franchise player who can be a championship centerpiece, next season...They will.

[acoelho1]

If Kawhi is traded there is no reason to keep LMA and should try to make a deal for a pick and prospect. LMA leading this team is a recipe for dissapointment. I rather move to a full rebuild and see if any of our young guards can develop into a star, which I think Murray will become one.

[pad300]

Trading Kawhi creates a max spot next season, I'd love if the Spurs look for a franchise player that can be a championship level centerpiece...There will be enough great FAs.

A "franchise player that can be a championship level centerpiece" is who?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/09/...ee-agents.html

Guys like that generally don't hit the FA market, and don't go to SA if they do...

[bdictjames]

What a mess..

Trade Kawhi for his sake, tbh...

[YGWHI]

Sure, but you are acting like he played terrible the entire time. His first season with SA he graded out well and dropped 2 masssive games vs OKC. Even in his “bad” year, he still wasn’t bad and he crapped on HOU when Kawhi sat to get SA to the WCF.

No. I was replying to other guy saying Kawhi would feel bad for LMA's presence/wouldn't deal with him, when -again- it was the other way around.