De'Aaron Fox Rumors Suggest a Possible Trade to The Spurs

[DPG21920]

even if we grant the bizarre scenario where either Luka or Ant Man become "available" during the 25-26 or 26-27 seasons... wtf do you think the cost is going to be to acquire either one? i dont think this is remotely realistic

Whatever it takes. If that’s the case, Castle + every pick is on the table. Fox is not that guy or anywhere close to it is the point. The opportunity cost is not the same. If SA passes on Fox, they will be just fine is the point.

[paperboy77]

I think this will drag out to the offseason. Kings are probably just testing the market. In free agency the Rockets should be making a more significant offer to up the price, but who knows.

Houston are a really good and legit team or is it just smoke an mirrors? As time goes on it seems to me like they are the real deal. Adding Fox would completely screw with what they're building OR would turn Fox into an average component on their roster. The intrigue with Fox are his stats which would probably drop considerably if the Rockets want to continue with their team cohesion.

On the Spurs, who are going nowhere quickly and already have highly overrated "young players", Fox would be the ultimate get-rich-quick piece.

I keep hearing that Castle must be part of the deal. I think once again we overvalue what we got. The only player we have that can actually do something is Devin. I think the deal with Sacto can be done with Devin + 2 firsts + some complimentary pieces. That or Fox walks. Kinda like us with special-ed Leonard getting hosed by Toronto. Only our front office would overthink this unfortunately.

[RC_Drunkford]

How many one time all stars around his age that are good but not amazing and due large deals or just got large deals? A lot tbh…Trae, Lauri, Jaylen Brown, Barnes, Lavine, Beal etc..

LaVine is about to turn 30, is injury prone and on a 43 to 48 million $ contract which expires once he's 32
Beal is 31 and on the worst contract in the league averaging 17 PPG
Jaylen Brown is an SF and on the Celtics, they are not trading him
Scottie Barnes is an forward and locked into a deal until 2029
Lauri is a PF who just signed an extension after not getting traded. Also locked into a deal til 2029

so your only other Fox of all the Foxes in the NBA is Ice Tre who can give you some spacing at the 1 and get the defense to collapse. I thought there were so many?

[LeBowen]

You realize theres already reports about Luka right?

What reports? Show me one reliable source saying Luka is unhappy. Just one.

How you can act like this never happens after seeing Kawhi, after seeing Mitc , after seeing Harden and KD etc….its ludicrous

And how old were nephew, Harden and KD when they asked out? With how many years left on their contract? Noone ever rejected a supermax in order to get traded. Mitc got moved because Ainge realized Utah isn't going anywhere and blew the team up after that ridiculous offer he got from Gobert.

[LeBowen]

so your only other Fox of all the Foxes in the NBA is Ice Tre who can give you some spacing at the 1 and get the defense to collapse. I thought there were so many?

Another one in the long line of delusional Spurs fans talking about 6% golden tickets and MVP level players being available.

[baseline bum]

Yes. Just like being a one time all star. Accolades happen. These are all very good players we are talking about so its not surprising they can have a great season or PO series etc…

I can understand not wanting Fox because you like Castle or don't want to move draft picks but not wanting him because he'd cost a 30% max salary is nuts, that's what anyone who can make an allstar team commands. And it's especially nuts when it's effectively a decreasing contract since Bird raises are 8.5% non-compounded while the salary cap gets a 10% bump, compounded, every year of his extension. So while it would be 30% the first year it's 27.5% of the cap in year 5. The big cap bump every year from the TV and streaming deal eliminates the previous worries about max contracts with max raises blowing up when the cap wasn't having these big jumps. I don't understand being afraid of paying a consistent producer like Fox that kind of percentage but being ok paying Vassell's inconsistent ass nearly 21% of the cap.

[DPG21920]

LaVine is about to turn 30, is injury prone and on a 43 to 48 million $ contract which expires once he's 32
Beal is 31 and on the worst contract in the league averaging 17 PPG
Jaylen Brown is an SF and on the Celtics, they are not trading him
Scottie Barnes is an forward and locked into a deal until 2029
Lauri is a PF who just signed an extension after not getting traded. Also locked into a deal til 2029

so your only other Fox of all the Foxes in the NBA is Ice Tre who can give you some spacing at the 1 and get the defense to collapse. I thought there were so many?

I just named so many lol. You saying “they wont be traded” when we have history that shows us otherwise doesnt make it fact sir.

[DPG21920]

What reports? Show me one reliable source saying Luka is unhappy. Just one. And how old were nephew, Harden and KD when they asked out? With how many years left on their contract? Noone ever rejected a supermax in order to get traded. Mitc got moved because Ainge realized Utah isn't going anywhere and blew the team up after that ridiculous offer he got from Gobert.

Amazing how theres is all these caveats….except for any player Ive mentioned moving forward. Amazing.

[DPG21920]

I can understand not wanting Fox because you like Castle or don't want to move draft picks but not wanting him because he'd cost a 30% max salary is nuts, that's what anyone who can make an allstar team commands. And it's especially nuts when it's effectively a decreasing contract since Bird raises are 8.5% non-compounded while the salary cap gets a 10% bump, compounded, every year of his extension. So while it would be 30% the first year it's 27.5% of the cap in year 5. The big cap bump every year from the TV and streaming deal eliminates the previous worries about max contracts with max raises blowing up when the cap wasn't having these big jumps. I don't understand being afraid of paying a consistent producer like Fox that kind of percentage but being ok paying Vassell's inconsistent ass nearly 21% of the cap.

I would be 100% thrilled with signing him to a full max in FA. Never said otherwise.

[DPG21920]

Houston are a really good and legit team or is it just smoke an mirrors? As time goes on it seems to me like they are the real deal. Adding Fox would completely screw with what they're building OR would turn Fox into an average component on their roster. The intrigue with Fox are his stats which would probably drop considerably if the Rockets want to continue with their team cohesion.

On the Spurs, who are going nowhere quickly and already have highly overrated "young players", Fox would be the ultimate get-rich-quick piece.

I keep hearing that Castle must be part of the deal. I think once again we overvalue what we got. The only player we have that can actually do something is Devin. I think the deal with Sacto can be done with Devin + 2 firsts + some complimentary pieces. That or Fox walks. Kinda like us with special-ed Leonard getting hosed by Toronto. Only our front office would overthink this unfortunately.

And I think SA should be all over the deal if that’s the cost. But if it’s Vassell + Castle + 4 firsts etc…? Nah.

[DPG21920]

Another one in the long line of delusional Spurs fans talking about 6% golden tickets and MVP level players being available.

Our delusion landed us Wemby. You’re welcome.

[baseline bum]

Whatever it takes. If that’s the case, Castle + every pick is on the table. Fox is not that guy or anywhere close to it is the point. The opportunity cost is not the same. If SA passes on Fox, they will be just fine is the point.

They are not just fine right now. Keldon Johnson lost all of his trade value and Vassell is on that path now too where he goes from interesting prospect to underachieving veteran. The second best player on the team is 39.

[LeBowen]

Amazing how theres is all these caveats….except for any player Ive mentioned moving forward. Amazing.

Asking for one reliable report about the best guard in the league who just made the finals being available is a caveat?
You're just delusional, no point in engaging with you.

Like talking to a wall.

[DPG21920]

They are not just fine right now. Keldon Johnson lost all of his trade value and Vassell is on that path now too where he goes from interesting prospect to underachieving veteran. The second best player on the team is 39.

It’s not about players - Still have Castle, Sochan and tons of picks to make moves.

[spurraider21]

And I think SA should be all over the deal if that’s the cost. But if it’s Vassell + Castle + 4 firsts etc…? Nah.

im not sure anybody here has advocated for castle + vassell + 4 firsts for fox

[rjv]

no on trading castle.

[Mal]

or Ant who's extension just kicked in and runs through 2029.
Ant will be in the same situation as Fox in 2027 or 2028, it's too early to think about him now.
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I would not bank Ant draggin Rudy Gobbert`s 40 mil a year corps for that long.

[baseline bum]

Our delusion landed us Wemby. You’re welcome.

OK but if you win the powerball are you going to go invest your winnings all in more powerball tickets?

[DPG21920]

Asking for one reliable report about the best guard in the league who just made the finals being available is a caveat?
You're just delusional, no point in engaging with you.

Like talking to a wall.

Take Luka out of it for arguments sake. You still added caveat to every other player lmao

[Dverde]

Rumors are Kings FO told Fox’s agent that they completed a trade for Cam Johnson for a playoff push, but then said it fell through later on. I guess this act of incompetence was the final straw.

[LeBowen]

Our delusion landed us Wemby. You’re welcome.

ing re if we got lucky with 14% odds once it doesn't mean that we should keep trying our luck.
We have a GOAT candidate on our roster and we better make good use of every single year he's healthy instead of hoping for even more lottery luck.

That's what incompetent GMs do, hope to get lucky even after they get their centerpiece.

[DPG21920]

OK but if you win the powerball are you going to go invest your winnings all in more powerball tickets?

Yes. When the risk is very low and reward very high.

[DPG21920]

ing re if we got lucky with 14% odds once it doesn't mean that we should keep trying our luck.
We have a GOAT candidate on our roster and we better make good use of every single year he's healthy instead of hoping for even more lottery luck.

That's what incompetent GMs do, hope to get lucky even after they get their centerpiece.

It’s not just about draft. If you don’t trade for Fox, you can use those picks for other players to trade for. You dont lose any opportunities

[RC_Drunkford]

I just named so many lol. You saying “they wont be traded” when we have history that shows us otherwise doesnt make it fact sir.

ok then add Jokic, Giannis, SGA, Chet, Tatum and all the other guys to that list and wait til 20131 so you can trade for them

You said there are so many Foxes. I'm talking about PGs specifically. There aren't many under 30 that are elite and you know that. If you want to wait so you can trade for SGA once he's 35 and won 5 rings with OKC while we're still in the play-in good luck.

You also don't seem to factor in cap space at all when it comes to this.

[LeBowen]

Take Luka out of it for arguments sake. You still added caveat to every other player lmao

You put him in the arguments.

I added valid points to other players.
Harden and nephew were on expiring contracts, KD walked as a free agent.

Fox is in exactly the same situation as them.

Mitc is the only outlier, but his team blew it up, which doesn't seem to be the case with ANY of the names you listed.