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    So let them, pop is close to retirement and is the face of the Olympic team. It's going to be hard to whitewash him and if they did, spurs replace him with a woman, an African, or the Italian. All it will accomplish is having pop take the team to the slavery museum sooner! Kawhi can whisper all he wants but pop is closer to almost all nba players whereas kawhi is a mute. You don't hear active players taking up for him now. I doubt they will start.

    The danger for jalen and Carter saying it is that they look reactionary and out of touch. In the age of trump racism is kind of loud and out. Your whisper campaign isn't going to move pop into that camp.
    I agree and have the same sentiment the Spurs should never cave in no matter how nasty its going to get. My fear is the Spurs could cave in when they start playing the race card.

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    Man, I really hope the group plays the race card, just for the sheer Civil War that would cause in the NBA.

    You'd be playing the race card against the most outspoken liberal in all of american sports and the head coach of Team USA. Maybe they get some traction with the media and some players, but holy the wrath they would incur from the owners around the league. If Pop gets the race card pulled on him, what's to stop actual racist owners from getting it done to them. Even Uncle Tom MJ would put a hit on Dennis

    God, the backlash from the owners around the league and subsequent bind that Silver would be in would absolutely be worth it tbh....

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    What is this? I can't really view it.

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    Cris Carter is just another Christianist, someone who claims to be a Christian, but who’s actions belie that statement.

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    What is this? I can't really view it.
    It's Impact's ty website. There is supposed to be a testimonial from Cris Carter (Frankel was/is his agent, probably his investment partner now), but it's just Carter's picture.

    Carter's connection to Kawhi is that he is completely involved in this.

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    What is this? I can't really view it.
    Exactly

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    Hmmm. The CBA over the last few decades has enabled smaller market teams to be compe ive and win. The tension has been with the media outlets which favor larger markets. Remember when Musberger talked about the 'shame' of DRob going to small market SA instead of NY or LA? Right now the reason the Spurs have some leverage is because of the CBA and the supermax provision.
    I didn't know that, since Robinson being drafted was before my time. Pretty shameless though.

    Just makes me appreciate what we had all that much more, honestly.
    Yeah, I've had that thought too. But then I think about how it shouldn't take such special cir stances (getting a special player without the prototypical superstar personality) for us small-markets to be able to compete, because it's really ing hard to come across that.

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    Are those fans opining on national media? That's who does the "thinking" for most "fans".
    Agree. National media creates the narratives, they form and influence most people's opinion, heroes become villains, villains become heroes...This happens all time.

    National media is part of NBA contract talks, they manipule agents and distort reality to favor a team.

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    Most do not believe the media now

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    It boosts his trade value and plants the seed in Leonard's mind that being Pippen to Bron in LA probably isn't his best course of action. He expands his list publicly and the Spurs are in good shape again.
    But the Spurs hands are tied except that he'd consider Philly.
    His camp already said he could remain with Philly long term if they trade for him. It's not their fault that Sixers lost interest after LeBron signed with Lakers.

    They wanted Kawhi to land LeBron but the Spurs asked too much, then it was too late.

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    His camp already said he could remain with Philly long term if they trade for him. It's not their fault that Sixers lost interest after LeBron signed with Lakers.

    They wanted Kawhi to land LeBron but the Spurs asked too much, then it was too late.
    Makes sense . Kawhi will commit here long-term, we lost to BOS without Kyrie/Hayward 4-1 but because we didn’t land Lebron it’s not worth getting Kawhi

    Are you listening to yourself? If we can’t have Lebron AND KAWHI we would rather have neither!!

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    Man, I really hope the group plays the race card, just for the sheer Civil War that would cause in the NBA.

    You'd be playing the race card against the most outspoken liberal in all of american sports and the head coach of Team USA. Maybe they get some traction with the media and some players, but holy the wrath they would incur from the owners around the league. If Pop gets the race card pulled on him, what's to stop actual racist owners from getting it done to them. Even Uncle Tom MJ would put a hit on Dennis

    God, the backlash from the owners around the league and subsequent bind that Silver would be in would absolutely be worth it tbh....
    don't waste the time tbh

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    Most do not believe the media now
    I think that is less true in the realm of sports media.

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenh.../#22f891a0701a

    For anybody still thinking that the relationship can be repaired, the above article pretty much sums up the group's approach.

    They're all in on Kawhi since there's no money to be made in the NFL and their angle is to get endorsements, real estate deals, etc. for their clients. Getting him to LA or another big market is their only chance to save the failing business.

    Their whole differentiator gimmick is to get their clients access to things outside of sports, and that's not happening in SA. A supermax isn't even a win for them.

    This group and his Uncle are beyond toxic, the Spurs need to cut ties with them as soon as possible before they infect the franchise even further tbh.

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    I didn't know that, since Robinson being drafted was before my time. Pretty shameless though.
    ing Rick Barry on draft night said David should go sign with the Lakers or Celtics. And if he wanted to David could have done so since his two year naval commitment could have made him a free agent.

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    Say what you will about dumb Lavar, at least he knows how to build an actual website

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    Digging that line of chat led me to this:

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenh.../#22f891a0701a

    For anybody still thinking that the relationship can be repaired, the above article pretty much sums up the group's approach.

    They're all in on Kawhi since there's no money to be made in the NFL and their angle is to get endorsements, real estate deals, etc. for their clients. Getting him to LA or another big market is their only chance to save the failing business.

    Their whole differentiator gimmick is to get their clients access to things outside of sports, and that's not happening in SA. A supermax isn't even a win for them.

    This group and his Uncle are beyond toxic, the Spurs need to cut ties with them as soon as possible before they infect the franchise even further tbh.
    And they could've had all that in Philly or Boston: lol. They played themselves by leaving LA as the only option.

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenh.../#22f891a0701a

    For anybody still thinking that the relationship can be repaired, the above article pretty much sums up the group's approach.

    They're all in on Kawhi since there's no money to be made in the NFL and their angle is to get endorsements, real estate deals, etc. for their clients. Getting him to LA or another big market is their only chance to save the failing business.

    Their whole differentiator gimmick is to get their clients access to things outside of sports, and that's not happening in SA. A supermax isn't even a win for them.

    This group and his Uncle are beyond toxic, the Spurs need to cut ties with them as soon as possible before they infect the franchise even further tbh.
    That agency and their story reeks greed and selfishness. Smaller market teams and their stars are the prey.

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    Lol you can’t invest in real estate in CA playing in SA?

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    A conflicted employee of a major media outlet who calls Pop a racist is inviting a rather large slander claim and would be out of a job.

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    Man, I still hate him because he's a grown ass man, but it's hard to not feel sorry for the kid. It's pretty easy to connect the dots.

    Quiet, low-key guy from a close-knit family gets to the NBA. All of a sudden blows up and is one of the biggest names in the sport.

    The only family member with any business sense/interest is re Dennis and is trusted implicitly by Kawhi and his mom, etc.

    Dennis gets involved with a bunch of snake oil salesmen that promise him that he can have a Rich Paul type stake in the empire they're trying to build , without realizing that him and his nephew are just a means to an end for these ing leeches.

    Smh.

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    Lol you can’t invest in real estate in CA playing in SA?
    Well. The real estate side seems to be them sharing their profits with players. Their job is to mafia big market targeted players to them and reap endorsement deals.

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    Man, I still hate him because he's a grown ass man, but it's hard to not feel sorry for the kid. It's pretty easy to connect the dots.

    Quiet, low-key guy from a close-knit family gets to the NBA. All of a sudden blows up and is one of the biggest names in the sport.

    The only family member with any business sense/interest is re Dennis and is trusted implicitly by Kawhi and his mom, etc.

    Dennis gets involved with a bunch of snake oil salesmen that promise him that he can have a Rich Paul type stake in the empire they're trying to build , without realizing that him and his nephew are just a means to an end for these ing leeches.

    Smh.
    I think this is probably the most accurate summary of what's been going on that allows all the pieces to best fit together

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