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    dogfighting is like you have a baby boy, and you raise him to be hateful and angry, you physically abuse him and brainwash him that fighting is good. You teach him how to use a knife to kill people.

    When he turns 7 years old, you bring him to a human fight arena. Where all 7 year old kids fight each other in hand to hand combat.

    You pick an opponent, you strap on a double edged knife to his hand, and then you let him go fight in the middle of the arena.

    You bet hundreds of dollars on him. If he loses, you bring him home and you torture him until he dies.
    You just described that Jet Li movie where he's the "human pitbull".

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    marbury is an idiot, but of course he has a point. we are talking about putting a guy in jail b/c he pitted dogs against one another...think about that. its insane. some people running this country are insane...

    its a dog, not your dog, but a dog...who gives a .

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    marbury is an idiot, but of course he has a point. we are talking about putting a guy in jail b/c he pitted dogs against one another...think about that. its insane. some people running this country are insane...

    its a dog, not your dog, but a dog...who gives a .
    People that do this to animals are sick..bas deserves to go to jail for what he did. I can't believe you are actually saying it's ok. I hope a pit bites yours and Vicks balls off and eats them.

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    People that do this to animals are sick..bas deserves to go to jail for what he did. I can't believe you are actually saying it's ok. I hope a pit bites yours and Vicks balls off and eats them.
    1. is vick hurting society, really?
    2. is he damaging the dog population?
    3. is vick human?
    4. is vick more important than a dog?
    5. should vick go to jail for treating dogs inhumanely?

    ...think about that? i never said vick was doing something i deemed acceptable and you wont find me at a dog fight in the future, nor have i ever been to one. this is a perfect example of the media getting into a fuss without realizing why they got into a fuss. its outrageous. vick should be fined, at most, and continue being the most overrated QB in the NFL.

    furthermore, i love dogs, cats, all animals. but he isn't fighting anyone's foofoo, or precious little furball...he is fighting his dogs...so the what. and while we are at, whats the big deal with fights?...America is getting overrun by pussies.

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    1. is vick hurting society, really?
    2. is he damaging the dog population?
    3. is vick human?
    4. is vick more important than a dog?
    5. should vick go to jail for treating dogs inhumanely?

    ...think about that? i never said vick was doing something i deemed acceptable and you wont find me at a dog fight in the future, nor have i ever been to one. this is a perfect example of the media getting into a fuss without realizing why they got into a fuss. its outrageous. vick should be fined, at most, and continue being the most overrated QB in the NFL.

    furthermore, i love dogs, cats, all animals. but he isn't fighting anyone's foofoo, or precious little furball...he is fighting his dogs...so the what. and while we are at, whats the big deal with fights?...America is getting overrun by pussies.
    He did kidnap and use other people's pets for "training".

    Besides, you can't just go around electrocuting or torturing animals. It's just not good for society. Society has to put you in jail for that. Or at least in a straight jacket because you're a damned psycho.

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    Texas just electrocuted it's 400th prisoner in the last 25 years... it's not getting overrun by pussies. We kill mother ers around here, but nicely with a syringe and some poison.

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    He did kidnap and use other people's pets for "training".

    Besides, you can't just go around electrocuting or torturing animals. It's just not good for society. Society has to put you in jail for that. Or at least in a straight jacket because you're a damned psycho.
    1. i didn't know about kidnapping other people's pets...if true, yeah, thats ed up. though, i never heard about that...interesting

    2. society does not have to put you in jail for hurting animals...you're nuts. but society should probably fine people and put in some community service

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    Texas just electrocuted it's 400th prisoner in the last 25 years... it's not getting overrun by pussies. We kill mother ers around here, but nicely with a syringe and some poison.
    Texas is 1 of 50 states...not sure if you got that memo.

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    1. i didn't know about kidnapping other people's pets...if true, yeah, thats ed up. though, i never heard about that...interesting

    2. society does not have to put you in jail for hurting animals...you're nuts. but society should probably fine people and put in some community service
    Ah, depends on the level of severity we're talking here. If they're kidnapping people's pets to kill - definitely jail. That's theft of property. If they're killing dozens or more animals on some sort of sick spree - possibly jail, but definitely some mental evaluation. Not long before that becomes people. Just whacking a stray on the street - nice fine, court appearance, and community service.

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    Texas is 1 of 50 states...not sure if you got that memo.
    Yeah I was just being funny. So does that make Texas the only non-pussy state?

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    Ah, depends on the level of severity we're talking here. If they're kidnapping people's pets to kill - definitely jail. That's theft of property. If they're killing dozens or more animals on some sort of sick spree - possibly jail, but definitely some mental evaluation. Not long before that becomes people. Just whacking a stray on the street - nice fine, court appearance, and community service.
    1. stealing?...yes jail

    2. anything else?...no jail, some other measure of reform aside from mass, mass, mass killing

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    Yeah I was just being funny. So does that make Texas the only non-pussy state?
    no, but there aren't many. Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Dakotas, Maine, and Colorado are cool. actually, i was mainly referring to our central government...but OK.

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    The national outrage over this is hollow at best.

    Do people not realize what horses are put through in order to race? What happens to them if they don't produce?

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    The national outrage over this is hollow at best.

    Do people not realize what horses are put through in order to race? What happens to them if they don't produce?
    exactly.

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    Just be glad someone's willing to do it so you can sit back and be judgmental about it without starving deer digging through your garbage.
    If called on to hunt deer for the sole purpose of "population control" then there's really no problem.

    With the stray dog problem experienced in a lot of cities, perhaps the government should take a look into legalizing dogfighting. If it was regulated by the government and done responsibly, it would help greatly with "population control" and appease man's appe e for a "kill". And you wouldn't have starving dogs digging through your garbage.

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    Yeah, that's the only reason, and it's why there's that government sanctioned fighting league.
    is there a population control problem with roosters? if there is, then why not? and then just throw those things on the grill once they're done fighting to cover that base too.

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    People that do this to animals are sick..bas deserves to go to jail for what he did. I can't believe you are actually saying it's ok. I hope a pit bites yours and Vicks balls off and eats them.
    You want a pit to bite off a poster's testicles, but you get your panties in a bunch over a freakin' dog? Human life > dog's life.

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    Maybe he knows Vick personally? And good people do shady things all the time. You don't base judgments off of one incident.
    You are totally correct I'm sure all the recent mothers, who were all cited as good persons, who killed 3 or 4 or 5 of their babies at a time should be let go because we shouldn't base judgements off one incident.





    Dumbass.

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    No, he's a ing moron...

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    Wow, the Capn and Leo have agreed on something.


    By the way, Leo, didn't your favorite team used to be the Mavs?

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    Starbury might have a point but it is a little bit misguided.

    Anyway, dog fighting is still a cruel way to treat dogs/animals. I am not even fond of fighting even it is popular here in the Philippines.

    Anyone seen the bear baiting incidents in Pakistan?

    http://www.wspa-usa.org/pages/391_bear_baiting.cfm

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    You're still killing an animal for your gratification. Did the deer ask if he wanted to be hunted for sport?
    What if the deer were being hunted for FOOd? Is there a difference between being humted for sport or for food?

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    There is truth to Marburry's line of reasoning.

    There is also the very real fact that hunting is for food, and because there are no more natural predictors, we actually keep the species alive by hunting, because if we didn't they would overpopulate and die of disease and hunger.

    Finally, if you don't think dogfighting is a big deal, you should go to your legislators and let them know. Be active in your community. If you think a law is wrong, don't break it, work to fix it.

    Personally I think it is a deplorable act. But if I had my way, nobody would be allowed to have pets, because I think keeping animals in homes, period, in inhumane and cruel. Generally, animals belong outdoors, where they naturally occur. If the animals aren't for direct human benefit (Search dogs, Shepard dogs, food cattle etc) they shouldn't be handled by humans. I even have hard time with Zoos if the species kept are not endangered.
    Interesting - but animals are companions to those that live alone and to the elderly. Isn't that a direct human benefit?

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    Interesting - but animals are companions to those that live alone and to the elderly. Isn't that a direct human benefit?

    I understand that some people are lonely and this serves as a form of companionship... but if you are going to own an animal, and just keep it in a house, effectively caged in, with not even a back yard... I still find it to be cruel and selfish. Now if you live on some kind of estate where the animal can go free, I have little issue with it. Dogs are domesticated, but only to a point. Most need a level of freedom.

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    I think hunters are able to hide behind excuses like "we eat the deer" and "population control" to make themselves feel better about the fact that they just really enjoy going out and blowing the living out of Bambi's mother. And that's got a certain sickness to it. Maybe not to the degree of people that enjoy dogfighting, but there's still something wrong with it IMO.

    if it's strictly for the food, then there's no problem whatsoever with hunting IMO. i just call bull on people who say they go hunting solely because they enjoy venison. i think they get some joy out of ending the life of another living being.

    Just like anything else, there are levels and degrees involved here, or shades of gray (whatever you want to call it). For example, both Michael Jordan and Kevin Willis are NBA champions, but no one would say they had equal careers.

    There are lots of different kinds of hunters. I hunt deer, but it is more or less for the meat. (Farmers have had me help them shoot a few to protect their crops too.) I don't particularly enjoy it, especially since it is so restricted in Indiana.

    In terms of "trophy hunting" or gratification, I would love to hunt a great brown bear (Grizzly, Kodiak, etc.). That is pretty much the pinnacle for North America. However, I will never do so for a number of reasons: 1) I hate bear meat and won't eat it (only tried black bear); 2) Most subspecies of brown bear are at least on watch lists, if not endangered; 3) It is fantastically expensive, considering the travel, permits, etc.; and 4) Ultimately, I would be doing it for the "wrong" reasons.

    I would love to go on an East African safari and just kill enough to supply a party in the field. You know, sort of a combination between a "photo safari" and a traditional hunt. This is one of the best ways to appreciate the big game animals in their own environment and see the world at the same time.

    O.K. Now the "dark" side. I am mostly an upland hunter. I eat all of the birds, but I must admit I enjoy blasting the suckers. I also enjoy shooting at clay birds more than a paper target. In my case, I think it is a case not so much of enjoying killing an animal, but enjoying the challenge of a moving target. (Few firearms were ever designed just to make holes in paper.)

    I hope this explains this better for some people. My point is that there are many different types of people involved in hunting. Some of them are conservationists, some need the food, some enjoy the sporting aspect, and some people are just plain assholes, whether hunting or what have you.

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