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    Agreed 100%. Lets start with a few facts here.. for those people (z0sa) who aren't fortunate enough to watch every Laker game like some of us (in california) are.

    Fact #1 - Andrew Bynum is not injury prone. He came down on Lamar's foot in a sort of hyper-extended fashion. No more injury prone than any other big man with his length.

    Fact #2 - I'd have taken Andrew Bynum over Pau Gasol as our Center in the finals any day of the week! And, i'm sure any legit Laker fans would agree, And... we'd have won!

    Fact #3 - Lakers would not have even made the playoffs if not for Bynum's play for the first 1/3 of the season. His numbers just don't do him justice. Teams just stopped attacking the paint all together because he was becoming so sound defensively. On offense you began to see the beginnings of a heck of a post game.. numerous moves.. seemed to be very comfortable. He was efficient, effective almost any time he touched the ball, and took what the offense gave him.

    Fact #4 - Bynum is better than Bogut both offensively, and defensively. Bynum is longer, more athletic, stronger, and aside from a mid range jump shot (which i don't even know Bogut does well).. there really isn't anything I don't think Bynum can't do better on a basketball court. Even the way he just constantly plays above the 10 foot level is just down right sick! Amazing talent.

    Fact #5 - Bynum WILL receive max money next year.. or very very close to it... whoever said that was totally correct. If you read into his exit interview well enough.. you can tell the kid expects a lot.. and trust me the Lakers are well aware of that.

    Fact #6 - Nose-bleed seats to our thumping over the Spurs last season in the playoffs were around $500-1000... Lower tier were upward of $10,000+. The Lakers franchise as an en y profited more than you could ever imagine from our finals run. I wouldn't get too excited if your hope of the Lakers demise lies on the idea of Bynum not being a Laker some day. Not only pathetic.. it's highly optimistic.. and unlikely.

    Fact #7 - Andrew Bynum literally lives, breathes, and eats Kareem Abdul-Jabaar from weeks before camp starts through to the end of the season. He has done this three strait seasons.. and will do so for his 4th. There is nothing that indicates this kid won't be great.. he literally has got it all.

    Fact # 8 - Zosa.. is in denial of everything I have stated.. and will probably find a way to steam himself up enough to find some crazy logic refuting all of it. Two words.. rebuilding mode. Sorry buddy.
    Couldn't have said it any better.

    The worst part if you're a Spur fan is that the rebuilding process won't be quick. It will be a slow and gradual decay until Duncan fades into retirement. At least LAL was able to bounce back from Shaq's departure relatively quickly. 4 short years (only 1 lottery season) and we're back in the finals.

  2. #102
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    Problem is Kobe != Jordan.

    You think Artest will respect Kobe the way Rodman respected Jordan?

    And Rodman part duex already happened in L.A.

    It was Dennis Rodman. And it was a bust.
    Rodman != Artest, he was already a scrub when he turns up in LA playing with no heart, and for your info artest would suck kobe's just to be on the Lakers, and i would trade odom for artest, artest could play the 4 too if needed, a tougher defender with better range than odom.

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    Your opinions are not fact. Learn this before you join a message board.

    Clearly you've missed where Bynum had 25-18 on Bogut in LA, dominated him from start to finish, I'd take a healthy Bynum any day of the year, month, or week!!

    Heck he even torn up Amare last year before he went down. Bynum has the potential to be one of the great laker centers since Kareem/ Wilt.
    Last edited by Showtime24 LAKERS; 07-15-2008 at 09:43 PM.

  4. #104
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    Bogut (2008 stats)

    PPG
    14.3
    RPG
    9.80
    BPG
    1.7
    MPG
    34.9


    Bynum (2008 stats)

    PPG
    13.1
    RPG
    10.20
    BPG
    2.1
    MPG
    28.8


    Thanks for playing!
    You forgot Bynum's 64% from the field, which led the NBA. Anyone with a brain I can see Bynum is already better than Bogut and he has ridiculous potential. This zosa got is a tool who doesn't know about basketball.

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    Here's the one stat you forgot:

    Bynum's GP: 35
    Bogut's GP: 78
    Shut the up:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...801110LAL.html

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    Believe. Showtime24 LAKERS's Avatar
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    Your opinions are not fact. Learn this before you join a message board.
    Watch and learn!
    http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=nOEG2qhdXOA

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    Zosa getting completely owned here. Don't show your gay face in this thread again .

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    With the exception of Duncan... the Lakers can get anyone off the Spurs with Bynum... plus a first round draft pick or complimentary player. I would guess the Lakers would take the draft pic cause the Spur dont have any comp players of value.
    Yup the Spurs would trade ANYONE on their roster outside of Duncan to get their hands on Bynum. Including your precious Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.

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    WOW, are you kidding me with that video! Hah.. that is total and utter domination. How can you honestly watch that... and with a strait face still say Bogut > Bynum?

    What's even more sad noticed by the date of that video is this was about.. a week before he hurt himself? This kid was JUST beginning to come out of his s . You could see it from the beginning of preseason.. he had vastly improved.. but as the season continued he became a viable candidate to back up Yao Ming as the Center in the West.

    Man, he busts a move about 2:50 into that video that just makes you go wow! 20 yrs old? Not to mention.. his defense defense defense... good lord, he's one of the best pure shot blockers i think i have seen in some time, and he's always had that apart of his game.

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    Everyone and thier mom knows that Bynum > Bogut...z0sa just smoking some crack while typing this crap.

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    WOW, are you kidding me with that video! Hah.. that is total and utter domination. How can you honestly watch that... and with a strait face still say Bogut > Bynum?

    What's even more sad noticed by the date of that video is this was about.. a week before he hurt himself? This kid was JUST beginning to come out of his s . You could see it from the beginning of preseason.. he had vastly improved.. but as the season continued he became a viable candidate to back up Yao Ming as the Center in the West.

    Man, he busts a move about 2:50 into that video that just makes you go wow! 20 yrs old? Not to mention.. his defense defense defense... good lord, he's one of the best pure shot blockers i think i have seen in some time, and he's always had that apart of his game.
    Man, you gotta go change your pants.

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    Do the same as we pound your team into submission the next 3.. 4. or 5 seasons.

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    Zosa getting completely owned here. Don't show your gay face in this thread again .


    Where is that ass Zosa spur fan at?? I wanna hear how he's gonna make up more to back up his spurs or any other teams/ players against the lakers, just like every spur fans would do.... ing HATER!!!!

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    Where is that ass Zosa spur fan at?? I wanna hear how he's gonna make up more to back up his spurs or any other teams/ players against the lakers, just like every spur fans would do.... ing HATER!!!!
    Damn straight I'm a LakerHater. Tim will make Bynum along with Gasol and any other Laker his til hes 40. Keep on throwing the triple teams at him Phil.

    With the exception of Duncan... the Lakers can get anyone off the Spurs with Bynum... plus a first round draft pick or complimentary player. I would guess the Lakers would take the draft pic cause the Spur dont have any comp players of value.
    The spurs don't have any pieces to trade for a max contract, dumbass

    Zosa getting completely owned here. Don't show your gay face in this thread again .
    This coming from the boy who used an injured 35 game season to compare an entire season's stats as proof for a max contract. STFU idiot, your laker buddies got me covered without your help.

    Impressive, but I never said Bogut > Bynum straight up, nor would I ever make that inclination. I never even said Bynum is bad, or doesn't have potential (though it is far less than you believe). However, Bogut > Bynum both statistically and health-wise is a fact, which is why he deserves a max contract, and Bynum doesn't. Health is one of the biggest concerns going into an extension.


    Yup the Spurs would trade ANYONE on their roster outside of Duncan to get their hands on Bynum. Including your precious Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.
    You truly are re ed.

    Everyone and thier mom knows that Bynum > Bogut...z0sa just smoking some crack while typing this crap.
    Not statistically or health-wise. He's been more productive for far longer.

    All you laker lovin' bandwagon riders can suck my balls, as soon as you're done deep throating Bynum's . 30 game stretches aren't worth max contracts dumb s.

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    Laker Fans are still around talking ? really?

    131-92. Now get the out, es.

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    nice find

    bogut is playing with his head up his ass there too, a couple pump fakes on bynum and he'd be going to the line, instead he makes himself look like an asshole getting blocked
    this whole argument is a waste of time really. If bogut was better than bynum the bucks wouldnt be chained to the bottom of the eastern conference like they are

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    Laker Fans are still around talking ? really?

    131-92. Now get the out, es.
    Enjoy it.. 20 some odd years till your next one. Meanwhile... you can find the Lakers on ABC in the middle of June for the next... 3... 4... or 5 years. And god help you if Kobe goes Jordan and plays till he is 38 or older... dishing balls to the most dominate Center in the game, Andrew Bynum.

    We've already got team of the decade... and we'll probably pick up the next decade too while we are at it. Enjoy..

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    You truly are re ed.
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    No, you're the only re here

    Right now Bogut > Bynum..

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    Damn z0sa getting OWNED. Quit showing your gay face in this thread.

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    Enjoy it.. 20 some odd years till your next one. Meanwhile... you can find the Lakers on ABC in the middle of June for the next... 3... 4... or 5 years. And god help you if Kobe goes Jordan and plays till he is 38 or older... dishing balls to the most dominate Center in the game, Andrew Bynum.

    We've already got team of the decade... and we'll probably pick up the next decade too while we are at it. Enjoy..
    Team of the decade doesn't = winning the first 3 championships and then not getting back to the finals till 08.

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    Team of the decade doesn't = winning the first 3 championships and then not getting back to the finals till 08.
    What about the 2004 finals? Forget that? Malone tears his meniscus in the middle of the West Conf. Finals and the Pistons blew our socks off.

    My point is.. Eight NBA seasons this decade. Three rings. FIVE finals appearances. And two seasons to go. The only team possible of up uprooting us as team of the decade would be the Spurs and would require another ring, OR at least going to back to back finals appearances (tieing them with the Lakers). And lets be honest.. neither has a shot in at happening. Hornets concern me more these days than the Spurs do... as do the Rockets when Yao isn't broken.

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    Enjoy it.. 20 some odd years till your next one. Meanwhile... you can find the Lakers on ABC in the middle of June for the next... 3... 4... or 5 years. And god help you if Kobe goes Jordan and plays till he is 38 or older... dishing balls to the most dominate Center in the game, Andrew Bynum.
    We've already got team of the decade... and we'll probably pick up the next decade too while we are at it. Enjoy..

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