Sources: Posey agrees to four-year deal with Hornets

[rj215]

I thought it was PJ Brown that helped them get past the Cavs.

Best Perimeter Defenders:

1a. Kobe
1b. Bowen
3. Prince
4. Artest
5. Posey
6. Battier
7. Igoudala
8. Raja Bell
9. Rondo
10. Billups

Posey, Pierce and Allen took turns contesting LBJ's jumpshot and crowding him when he got to the paint. It's a shame for Cleveland that he doesn't have any help. Posey is a Cleveland guy and would've helped them.

[turiaf for president]

i dont think its a great signing for the hornets. the hornets need a back up big man to play behind west and chandler. ideally an anderson varejao or ronny turiaf would have been better for them.

if they kept bonzi, they would have a sg sf combo of bonzi and peterson at the 2 and peja and wright at the 3. wright was coming into his own and would have been ready to contribute this year. posey held out for a 4 year deal and got his money. good on him but in that 4th year, the hornets will be paying posey over 7 mil when he is 35 years old.

only players in recent history that have been productive sf's past 32 is bruce bowen and mario elie. their level of play didnt go down as they got older. some examples of older players who got more money because of their good playoff play at the sf position was byron russell, rick fox, and dan majerle. all three were posey type players. defensive minded players who had 3 point range. all three either retired or was ineffective after they turned 32. i think posey will be decent next year but he will start to declined after that.

i want to see the hornets do what they did last year again. for some reason i dont see them winning the division this year. if the spurs can resign thomas or get a big body, i think they will finish 1st in the division.

[turiaf for president]

Best Perimeter Defenders:

1a. Kobe
1b. Bowen
3. Prince
4. Artest
5. Posey
6. Battier
7. Igoudala
8. Raja Bell
9. Rondo
10. Billups

Posey, Pierce and Allen took turns contesting LBJ's jumpshot and crowding him when he got to the paint. It's a shame for Cleveland that he doesn't have any help. Posey is a Cleveland guy and would've helped them.

agreed but i would have bowen battier kobe artest and prince as my top 5 in that order

[resistanze]

Best Perimeter Defenders:

1a. Kobe
1b. Bowen
3. Prince
4. Artest
5. Posey
6. Battier
7. Igoudala
8. Raja Bell
9. Rondo
10. Billups

LOL.

[TheMadHatter]

I've said this before but it's worth repeating. Posey is not a top 5 perimeter defender.

He is one of the better team defenders and hustle players, but put him on an island with a top 5 SG and he's not going to stop most of them without fouling.

Guys like Battie, Bowen, Artest, and Kobe are better IMHO. This is a good signing for the Hornets but their real need is a backup C behind Chandler. When he goes out their production dips big time.

[Marcus Bryant]

Nice addition from a basketball perspective, but 4 years? We'll see how good that looks next summer when there's 3 years and $20 mil left on his contract, considering the other contracts they're carrying.

[Booharv]

I can only count Bowen and Artest being better perimeter defenders. Posey is right there after them. And since winning the last two championships, he seems even more poised to keep it going. He was arguably the best reserve in Boston the last season.

I'm not then only one who thinks he's not a top 3 defender.

"It's true that Posey brings three things to the table: defense, rebounding and 3-point shooting. He's not an all-defense guy, but he's an above-average defender who can play multiple positions, and that's certainly helpful."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...Hornets-080716

He's right, because not one NBA coach thinks he is either. I mean he didn't he didn't even get one vote for the All Defensive team. Not one.

http://www.nba.com/news/defensive_team_080512.html

Not only that but he didn't get one in 2007...

http://www.nba.com/news/alldefensive_070430.html

...or 2006 either.

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/0506...am_060511.html

In fact to my knowledge, he's never even gotten even one All Defense vote in his entire career.

[Booharv]

Oh and he was a starter in 2006, before you point out that backups don't get votes.

[your_pimp]

The hornets will kick your sorry asses next season...

But wait you got Hill, Gist, and Mason LOL

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm NOT amazed what I said went over your head and you turned it into a bash pop post.


What I meant, last year the Hornets guys in Chandler and Peja were shockingly healthy ALL YEAR.
All I'm saying, that luck is gonna run out. They are perennially injured players whos history shows that they aren't reliable to play 82 games a year.

Thats all.

Forget the Pop bashing, I'm just pissed about us passing on Donte as far as that goes.

What you said didn't go over my head. Like I said, it's ing sad that as Spurs fans it's apparently at the point of hoping that one or more players on an opposing team get hurt prior to the playoffs for us to feel good about our chances.

Not exactly a great way to close out the TD era: "damn, hope a couple of Hornets are hurt so we can make it to the Finals."

Lame.

[picnroll]

Forget the Pop bashing, I'm just pissed about us passing on Donte as far as that goes.
.

The future Hall of Famer went 4-17 against the Cavs tonight.

[ducks]

posey can not stop a healthy manu

[ElNono]

I'm not then only one who thinks he's not a top 3 defender.

"It's true that Posey brings three things to the table: defense, rebounding and 3-point shooting. He's not an all-defense guy, but he's an above-average defender who can play multiple positions, and that's certainly helpful."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...Hornets-080716

He's right, because not one NBA coach thinks he is either. I mean he didn't he didn't even get one vote for the All Defensive team. Not one.

http://www.nba.com/news/defensive_team_080512.html

Not only that but he didn't get one in 2007...

http://www.nba.com/news/alldefensive_070430.html

...or 2006 either.

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/0506...am_060511.html

In fact to my knowledge, he's never even gotten even one All Defense vote in his entire career.

I'll put Shane Battier above him if it makes you happy. Kobe can also be a heck of a defender when he wants to be. Posey is undeniably an excellent perimeter defender. Votes don't mean crap. I mean, Bowen never received DPOY? How about Nash having more MVPs than Kobe and as many as Duncan?
Maybe Posey accepted and grew in his new role as a defensive player when he went to Miami. Who knows? A lot of vets change their games to survive in this league. His contribution as a solid defender and 3 pt shooter the last two seasons are undeniable. Defensibly I would say he's at a Tayshawn Prince level, with Prince having the advantage in length and Posey having the advantage in savvy and hustle.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The future Hall of Famer went 4-17 against the Cavs tonight.

Never said he'd be in the Hall, but he can score from the SF spot, that's for sure.

Still a better shooting night than Hill's had so far

[ducks]

psoey looked clutch because ray allen and kg sucked so bad in the first few rounds
kg sucks so bad that anyone looks clutch in 4 not named kg

[DPG21920]

Hill is being asked to do a lot, not just focus on one thing. Having said that, he is getting plenty of opportunities to shoot and he is not performing. His shot looks fine, he is getting open jumpers and getting to the rim, but like a typical Spur it is just not falling. It has always perplexed me: the Spurs get so many open looks and good shots and they do not go in. The shooters have nice form (Finley...) but they do not go. It is not that the Spurs have a bad offense, the offense gets the looks it is supposed to, but sometimes we can not hit the ocean.

[BRHornet45]

Thread with "Sons" in the le in 3 . . . 2. . . 1 . . .

lol son good one ... god bless

[BRHornet45]

sons!!!!!

[ElNono]

psoey looked clutch because ray allen and kg sucked so bad in the first few rounds
kg sucks so bad that anyone looks clutch in 4 not named kg

Careful there... He was voted defensive player of the year...

[SequSpur]

psoey looked clutch because ray allen and kg sucked so bad in the first few rounds
kg sucks so bad that anyone looks clutch in 4 not named kg

you're a ing re .

[ducks]

Careful there... He was voted defensive player of the year...

he can not stop manu

[TheProbabilityAnnex]

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[ElNono]

Hill is being asked to do a lot, not just focus on one thing. Having said that, he is getting plenty of opportunities to shoot and he is not performing. His shot looks fine, he is getting open jumpers and getting to the rim, but like a typical Spur it is just not falling. It has always perplexed me: the Spurs get so many open looks and good shots and they do not go in. The shooters have nice form (Finley...) but they do not go. It is not that the Spurs have a bad offense, the offense gets the looks it is supposed to, but sometimes we can not hit the ocean.

Refreshing apologetic post... Must be your first post where you didn't mention that Hill 'has the Tools'(tm)

[DPG21920]

Refreshing apologetic post... Must be your first post where you didn't mention that Hill 'has the Tools'(tm)

Your a "tool". Hill does have the tools and it turns out that Hairston had a nice game as well. Summer league "all-stars" do not always translate into nba all-stars. All you look for in SL is: do guys belong? Hill does. Hairston, not sure, but is on the edge. I am not apologizing. That is my take on the Spurs offense. If you would like to disagree, by all means...

[ElNono]

Your a "tool". Hill does have the tools and it turns out that Hairston had a nice game as well. Summer league "all-stars" do not always translate into nba all-stars. All you look for in SL is: do guys belong? Hill does. Hairston, not sure, but is on the edge. I am not apologizing. That is my take on the Spurs offense. If you would liuuke to disagree, by all means...

Hey, chill. I only brought it up because you use the same expression like 200x in the other threads. I didn't say he doesn't belong in the SL. What I'm doubtful is wether he can make our first team or if he needs some time with the Toros working on that PG position.