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  1. #101
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    Dirk > Manu
    Dirk is a franchise player, he took a team with no all-star in the finals.
    i love manu but i don't think he can do that.

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    And we all know Robert Horry is better than Tim Duncan.

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    Dirk > Manu
    Dirk is a franchise player, he took a team with no all-star in the finals.
    i love manu but i don't think he can do that.
    Manu got an Argentina team to the gold with no allstar level players. And Dirk might've not had any true allstars on his team, but that team was very well balanced. Unlike last years Spurs, who were Tim+Manu+Tony+vets+ 2 of 3 youngest players mostly DNP(Matt and Ian), and Dirk had Josh and some others, I really can't remember that team.

    And If you have TD on a team, you really can't be the franchise player. If Manu was THE MAN and took 23 shots per game because he completely ran the offense on some team like the Net or Knicks, he'd be crazy good too. A player can't shine as bright in a supporting role.

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    Manu got an Argentina team to the gold with no allstar level players. And Dirk might've not had any true allstars on his team, but that team was very well balanced. Unlike last years Spurs, who were Tim+Manu+Tony+vets+ 2 of 3 youngest players mostly DNP(Matt and Ian), and Dirk had Josh and some others, I really can't remember that team.

    And If you have TD on a team, you really can't be the franchise player. If Manu was THE MAN and took 23 shots per game because he completely ran the offense on some team like the Net or Knicks, he'd be crazy good too. A player can't shine as bright in a supporting role.
    well that's your opinion.
    i just think Manu has the talent to be a franchise player but he's too inconsistent.

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    well that's your opinion.
    i just think Manu has the talent to be a franchise player but he's too inconsistent.
    and i would add that his endurance is not the same as a black player that is able to go for 35 min daily with no problems... he reaches the same athleticism peaks but not for long stretches...

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    I'd sign Manu.

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    On these 2 points, I agree 100% with Paul Pierce.

    IMHO the only other players in the discussion as of today as the best are Timmay, Kobe, and CP3.
    Last edited by jacobdrj; 07-26-2008 at 09:47 AM.

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    In the league right now, Dirk, Nash, Yao.
    Seriously?

    Neither have led/assisted their perspective national teams or organizations to championships.

    I'm usually a big fan of your takes JS, but I completely disagree.

    Manu is the only player who has shown a compe ive level of play which rivals Jordan's.

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    Overall I'd put Manu in my top 3 european players right now. Of course other may be more sound with fundaments but Manu has the complete package plus he's the most though mentally. Something, IMO Dirk and Nash hasn't. And Yao has a lot to prove as a leader.

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    Dirk hasn't played against 5 man zones. And, in two of the his playoff failures, he's been held in check by Udonis Haslem and Stephen Jackson.
    Did you watch the 06 Finals? Let me ask you a question: What would have happened if the Mavs had played the same kind of physical defense against Wade that Haslem and Posey were allowed to play against Dirk? Wade probably would've shot 45 FTs per game.

    Against Stephen Jackson in 07, he had bone spurs. When he was healthy last year, he had no problem torching the Warriors.

    A team with Dirk as its best player has perenially won 55+ games and made a couple of deep playoff runs. A team with Manu as its best player would probably win 43-45 games and would always be first-round fodder.

    Dirk is better than Manu. It doesn't get any more concise and accurate than that. Dirk is the best foreign-born player in NBA History.

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    Manu got an Argentina team to the gold with no allstar level players.
    FIBA. Who cares? We're talking about the NBA. Under FIBA rules, Tim Duncan ain't so hot.

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    Under FIBA rules, Tim Duncan ain't so hot.
    "FIBA sucks."

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    Yeah, I have a hard time accepting these "Manu won a gold medal" arguments when Duncan looks like a spare in these compe ions.

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    Overall I'd put Manu in my top 3 european players right now
    european??

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    http://www.marca.com/charlas/pierce/24072008.html

    The two interesting answers he gives:

    Do you think Ginobili is one of the great players in the NBA?

    - I would sign Ginobili. He is the best foreign player in the history of the NBA.

    Is Kobe Bryant the best player nowadays?

    I don't think Kobe is the best, I am the best. There is a line that separates being presumptuous and self confidence. I do not cross that line but i a big deal of self confidence.

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    Hola Paul!!! Enhorabuena por tu victoria!!! Mi pregunta es...¿cómo viste a Pau en las finales? ¿crees que este año con Bynum recuperado pueden plantar un poco más de cara a los Celtics? Y una adicional. ¿Cómo te sientes al ganarle al equipo de tu ciudad, al que has animado desde pequeño? Un saludo y enhorabuena de nuevo Enviada por JeSu989 (23/07/2008 22:02) Sí, porque me ha permitido ganar... ¡Gracias Gasol! Con Bynum estarán más cerca, jugaremos las Finales contra ellos.

    Hola The Truth. Has sido muy criticado por la lesion que tuvistes en el primer partido de las finales de la nba, ¿ te da rabia que duden de tu profesionalidad ? Enviada por malaka_10 (23/07/2008 22:03) Bueno, no beneficia en nada a mi equipo que yo finja. Los medios de Los Ángeles se volvieron locos y dijeron eso, pero no había nada.

    en agún momento antes de este verano pensaste de verdad que ibas a ganar el anillo con los celtics? Enviada por Facoteso (23/07/2008 22:03) Sí, con Kevin y Ray sabía que íbamos a ganar

    Hola! Es un honor enviarte una pregunta. Lo primero, felicidades campeón! ¿Cual ha sido el mejor momento de tu vida profesional? Gracias, adios. Enviada por aupa_erreala (23/07/2008 22:04) Ganar el campeonato, por supuesto

    Hola The Truth. ¿ Por qué no jugasteis contra Hawks y Cavaliers igual que contra los Pistons y los Lakers ? ¿ Fue por confianza ?. Muchas gracias MARCA por poder hablar con un crack de la NBA Enviada por malaka_10 (23/07/2008 22:07) Hawks y Cavs son buenos equipos también, y nosotros fuimos siendo mejores cuanto más avanzó el año.

    ¿ Con quién te llevas mejor en el equipo ? ENHORABUENA Enviada por Sioux!! (23/07/2008 22:13) Probablemente, Tony Allen y Kevin Garnett. De todas maneras, hay muy buena química con todos.

    que se siente al jugar con grandes cracks del basket como Allen o Garnett, sin dejarte de lado a ti claro. a que se debe el dorsal 34 que llevas en los Celtics?? Enviada por oliverito (23/07/2008 22:04) Te sorprenderá, pero lo llevo porque en el ins uto la del número 34 era la camiseta que mejor me quedaba.

    hola pauL! quien crees que es mejor base arenas y calderón? Un saludo crack! Enviada por pablito_90 (23/07/2008 22:12) Hoy por hoy es mejor Gilbert Arenas, porque Calderón tiene margen de mejora y Gilbert es una superestrella ahora mismo.

    Hola crack,te gusta el futbol? Enviada por jesusmija (23/07/2008 22:20) Si me gusta, lo he empezado a seguir este año, creo que Beckham tiene parte de culpa. Kevin Garnett es muy fan del Chelsea, pero yo todavía no tengo equipo, lo estoy buscando.

    ¿que opinion tienes de rudy fernandez y de marc gasol que emprenderan su aventura por la NBA esta temporada? Enviada por Michel89 (23/07/2008 22:23) Nunca los he visto jugar. He escuchado hablar mucho de ellos, igual que de Ricky Rubio, pero no puedo opinar porque no los he visto jugar

    ¿A que se deben los fracasos de unas selecciones norteamericanas plagadas de estrellas en los ultimos campeonatos FIBA?. ¿Es Kobe Bryant el mejor jugador del mundo en la actualidad?, gracias y enhorabuena por el merecido anillo. Enviada por xiskovic (23/07/2008 22:34) No creo que Kobe sea el mejor, el mejor soy yo. Hay una línea que separa tener confianza en uno mismo de ser presuntuoso. Yo no traspaso esa línea pero tengo mucha confianza en mí.

    hola paul!!!!Quien ha sido el jugador que mas te ha costado defender??Gracias y felicidades por tu ulo cosechado Enviada por Magiko_espanyol (23/07/2008 22:14) Si tuviera que elegir a uno sería LeBron James

    hola paul ! me alegra que uno de los grandes del mundo en baloncesto charle con los aficionados. gracias ¿ quién fué tu idolo de la infancia ? ¿ qué opinas de las posibilidades de la selección española contra la seleccion de estados unidos en los juegos olímpicos?gracias crack. Enviada por Reggie_the killer_miller_31 (23/07/2008 23:16) Mis ídolos cuando era pequeño eran: en primer lugar, mi madre y en segundo lugar Magic Johnson

    Hola, Paul. Soy seguidor de los celtics desde los años 80, y para mi eres uno de los 5 mejores jugadores de la actualidad. Me gustaria saber: ¿Quienes son tus 5 jugadores preferidos en la nba hoy dia? Gracias y suerte para la proxima temporada. Enviada por Bolisa (23/07/2008 22:19) Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, Kendrick Perkins y Paul Pierce

    ¿alguna vez te has planteado cambiar de aires? Enviada por mahoneso (23/07/2008 22:19) No, nunca, quiero terminar mi carrera en los Celtics

    Hola y felicidades, mi pregunta es ¿crees que podeis ganar el anillo la temporada que viene sin James Posey y sin fichar a ningun agente libre? ¿cuanto años crees que se mantendra el equipo actual luchando con los mejores? Enviada por Goty (23/07/2008 22:14) POsey es muy buen jugador pero tenemos muy buen equipo y podríamos ganar otra vez el anillo sin necesidad de fichar algún jugador

    ¿crees que manu ginobili es un grande de la NBA? Enviada por gerardo_8_5 (23/07/2008 23:03) A Ginobili si pudiera lo ficharía. Es el mejor jugador extranjero de la historia de la NBA. Bueno lo lamento mucho pero tengo que dar por finalizada la charla. Me alegra mucho poder haber hablado con los aficionados españoles a la NBA y espero repetir la experiencia. Muchas gracias y un saludo!!
    Dirk is >>> Manu

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    you can see the video with the interview on the right hand side of the screen on here:

    http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/b...o/1150514.html

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    lmao! Yahoo just picked up these commetns by Pierce. They have it on their frontpage, and have linked to SR talking about Spurs fans reaction.

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    Pierce's better than kobe?? C'mon now, he ain't even the best player on his team!!!

    So this fool wins one championship and all of a sudden he thinks he's the best in the game... PUUhhh-LEASE PP you need to do a little more than that before you can call yourself the best in the game...your team weren't going any where before KG and Allen arrived.

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    Pierce's better than kobe?? C'mon now, he ain't even the best player on his team!!!

    So this fool wins one championship and all of a sudden he thinks he's the best in the game... PUUhhh-LEASE PP you need to do a little more than that before you can call yourself the best in the game...your team weren't going any where before KG and Allen arrived.
    He was better before Kobe won his first le.
    He wasn't recognized as such, because instead of Snaq as his starting center, he had... ... Battie... and instead of having Kobe/Shaq as a 2nd star, he had... ... ... Antone Walker (who is fun to watch, but not what I would call a championship level #2). IMHO does a whole lot more with a lot less talent around him, scores in bunches, in many ways, and plays defense far more consistently, at the same time, not just for 30 second spurts.

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    lmao! Yahoo just picked up these commetns by Pierce. They have it on their frontpage, and have linked to SR talking about Spurs fans reaction.
    WTF??? check the starting time of the thread i posted this even before the Argentine media... lame on yahoo linking to SR... they have been stealing my Manu blog translations too... and without asking my permission...

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