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    Are you really this ing stupid?
    No, but you are.

    - Coyote means more to the Spurs than Robinson.

    That's just one example in the many that describe how goddamn stupid you are.


    Ok, I won't use Kobe as an example...I'll use Jason Kidd as an example. I'll use Tim Duncan as an example. I'll use Kevin Garnett as an example. I'll use Shaq as an example. And so on and so forth.
    Well, seeing how you sound so confident, then use them as examples. Give me proof, solid proof. The burden is on you Sir Michael. When did Tim, Kidd, Shaq, Kevin, use "stroke" to solely make decisions for their organaztion... I'd really like to know.

    Just STFU.
    No doubt. Spur Team Fans United.

    And btw, that wasn't a comeback, it was the truth...I sincerely think it's good that you aren't ashamed to post. I would be if I were you.
    The only people that truly need to be ashamed is your parents. That is the cold sad truth.

    It was also the truth when I said you are joke at 2 boards...you really are.
    As opposed to you, who is a joke at two boards as well a joke in the real world,,, where I think it counts a more.

    It's really sad you think anyone gives a about their online persona and how well they're receive with other "online" personas who are currently all looking at a computer screen. It's just truly sad.

    Whether or not I'm liked here or or anywhere else on the internet really doesn't make me toss and turn at night. However, that can't be said for you. You probably wake up in a cold sweat every night.

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    I'm still banging my head against the wall on this whole Kobe didn't have clout thing. I don't know if you're aware of this, but the Lakers organization would have been well with in their legal rights to tell Kobe that he could go himself. Instead they make not one, but TWO key changes due to pressure from Bryant. That is not "making them decide if they want him". Free agency makes teams decide if they want a player. Getting Shaq and Phil one way tickets out of LA TOOK CLOUT YOU RE !

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    I'm still banging my head against the wall on this whole Kobe didn't have clout thing. I don't know if you're aware of this, but the Lakers organization would have been well with in their legal rights to tell Kobe that he could go himself. Instead they make not one, but TWO key changes due to pressure from Bryant. That is not "making them decide if they want him". Free agency makes teams decide if they want a player. Getting Shaq and Phil one way tickets out of LA TOOK CLOUT YOU RE !
    Phil resigned on his own free will. i hardly doubt Kobe was the one who got a 9 time NBA championship coach to resign. Well, Kobe was the reason, but that's just because he made Phil's lfe .

    Kobe used his own superstar power to determine his own future. Not anyone elses. , I don't even think Kobe did that anyway. Shaq wanted more money, the Lakers didn't want to pay, so he left. Kobe still played hard to get with LA even after they traded Shaq. But still, Kobe used his superstar status to determine the future.

    Give me one example where a player on his own, solely made a decision for a NBA organization where there is a head coach to deal with, Owners to deal with, season ticket holders to deal with and fans to deal with.

    Do you actually believe one player has enough stroke within a team to make any decision he wants? No. Sure he can voice his opinion but there is no way in one player has that much stroke, not even MJ.

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    Lets just put it this way.

    If it's true Kobe made rhe Lakers decided between him and Shaq. It's simple. He threated the team. It's pretty easy to get your way if you threaten a team.

    I.E. You don't do this, I'm leavind.

    It's not the same as: "I'm [name] and I want you ro sign this guy.

    Two days later, that player is signed.

    No player has the power to do that.

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    No, but you are.

    - Coyote means more to the Spurs than Robinson.

    That's just one example in the many that describe how goddamn stupid you are.
    No, that's just an example of you being such a weak that you have to nutride someone elses BS smack, that comes from a period when you weren't even on this board.




    Well, seeing how you sound so confident, then use them as examples. Give me proof, solid proof. The burden is on you Sir Michael. When did Tim, Kidd, Shaq, Kevin, use "stroke" to solely make decisions for their organaztion... I'd really like to know.
    Why should I have to do work because you are A.Ignorant of NBA history even to last season, and B.Too much of ing idiot to realize the leverage that Superstar players have on their teams?

    I'm not your free education. Live stupid for all I care. I don't think I can cure your problem anyway so I'll just insult you instead.



    No doubt. Spur Team Fans United.
    No, I meant shut the up...


    As opposed to you, who is a joke at two boards as well a joke in the real world,,, where I think it counts a more.

    It's really sad you think anyone gives a about their online persona and how well they're receive with other "online" personas who are currently all looking at a computer screen. It's just truly sad.
    I don't think anyone likes being universally viewed as an obnoxious suck up dumbass. I could see someone enjoying being one or the other if they were doing it intentionally...but that's not what happened with you, you can't help it. But if you like it, then more power to ya.





    Whether or not I'm liked here or or anywhere else on the internet really doesn't make me toss and turn at night.
    And I bet you say that to yourself every morning out of necessity. Good for you.

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    Fine, let's pretend for a second that Kobe isn't pulling the strings in La-la land (as in Los Angeles, and not the dreamworld that you seem to be residing in). What about Iverson? If you want a concrete example, a few years ago during the search for the latest head coach (after Allen had run the last one out of there) he actually said in an interview that he fully expected that he could veto any candidate. And no one in the Sixers organization ever really stepped up and said that wasn't the case. And then when it came time for all of the NBA analysts to comment on it, many of them said that the reality of the NBA is that superstars have come to expect, and often get, a very large say in personnel moves.

    I'm sorry I can't be more concrete than that but the reality of things is that if you only go on concrete proof then I guess that Oliver North really didn't recall a damn thing in the Iran Contra scandal.

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    No, that's just an example of you being such a weak that you have to nutride someone elses BS smack, that comes from a period when you weren't even on this board.
    Dude, I was in the chat room when you went up against almost everyone with your "Tim the Coyote Man means more to the Spurs than David" rant. You're the weak ass. Sorry, try again.

    Why should I have to do work because you are A.Ignorant of NBA history even to last season, and B.Too much of ing idiot to realize the leverage that Superstar players have on their teams?
    Hey dumb , that's what I've been saying. Superstars have leverage. Kobe used his to threaten the Lakers. However, you for some reason believe a player can use his stroke to make any freakin' decision he wants.

    That ain't happening. That's gonna happen right when the Wizard gives you a brain.

    I'm not your free education. Live stupid for all I care. I don't think I can cure your problem anyway so I'll just insult you instead.
    Dude, just provided one simple example with some facts to back it up. If you do, I'm make a post calling myself stupid and praising you. Come on, make me look bad. Do it. Or shut your bean hole.

    I don't think anyone likes being universally viewed as an obnoxious suck up dumbass.
    On the internet? Where the only thing you know about me is my handle name and the love I have for an NBA team? Yeah, I really care. Really, I do.

    And I bet you say that to yourself every morning out of necessity. Good for you.

    LOL... I knew the internet meant a lot to you. Where you associate your mindless obsession of looking good for fictional names such as Sequ, Ducks, Manny, and so one with everyone on the internet. Dude, we don't think like you. And for those who do, we call them nutty. They believe in the state hospital along with Michael and yourself.

    You need to learn how to separate the real world from a computer screen and eyboard.

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    Fine, let's pretend for a second that Kobe isn't pulling the strings in La-la land (as in Los Angeles, and not the dreamworld that you seem to be residing in). What about Iverson? If you want a concrete example, a few years ago during the search for the latest head coach (after Allen had run the last one out of there) he actually said in an interview that he fully expected that he could veto any candidate. And no one in the Sixers organization ever really stepped up and said that wasn't the case. And then when it came time for all of the NBA analysts to comment on it, many of them said that the reality of the NBA is that superstars have come to expect, and often get, a very large say in personnel moves.

    I'm sorry I can't be more concrete than that but the reality of things is that if you only go on concrete proof then I guess that Oliver North really didn't recall a damn thing in the Iran Contra scandal.
    he actually said in an interview that he fully expected that he could veto any candidate.
    Yeah,. because we're talking about "practice?" Iverson. I'm sure if you took everything to heart a NBA basketball player said, you'd think marbury was the best point guard right now, huh?

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    open your eyes people, malone is just what we need. why?
    1) he is mentally and physically tough
    2) he will be an inforcer on D and will be there to regulate on hard fouls; who better than malone to guard a shaq, r. wallace, kg, amare......malik, rasho, marks, who??? FACT: during 2003 2nd round series against spurs shaq avg 27ppg...i thought malik(many think he was awesome that yr) was one of the best shaq defenders.
    3) he is a good free throw shooter
    4) he has an awesome mid range jumper
    5) he husttles and overall he loves to play bball and i think that we will play for SA for atleast 2 seasons. we will love him then cuz thats how fans are.

    It is disturbing to know that you all think that malone is a thug, im sure he is stuborn and y but overall outside of bball he has comported himself as a gentleman.
    on the court he can play dirty but if you have some bball experience you should know that in the heat of the game u will do what it takes to win, and theres also times when you can loose ur mind and do something you will later regret. (ask sjax)
    think about it people, these guys get paid bank and they have so much added pressure that sometimes you just loose it(aside from my fav TD).

    it is mistake to judge people by how they play on the court, ex TD is criticized for being quiet and all that bs, im sure he's not like that out side bball. also Rasheed, on the court he just seems like a thug but ive read so many articles of how good he is with kids, community, and his fam.

    so please dont judge malone by what he did to drob... happens...again ask Sjax.

    so accept malone with open arms and he will help deliver a few more rings.
    trust pop, RC, and TDs decision they have made the spurs the best franchise on planet earth, so why start doubting them now. Dont forget this is a business and their goal is to present us with the best product they can put together. just imagine if we were in the Warriors/Hawks current state...how would you feel then.

    Malone hope you are in.

    just my thoughts.

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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    Dude, I was in the chat room when you went up against almost everyone with your "Tim the Coyote Man means more to the Spurs than David" rant. You're the weak ass. Sorry, try again.
    Sorry dumbass...that wasn't origin of that smack...if you had been here you'd know that smack was bull anyway.



    Hey dumb , that's what I've been saying. Superstars have leverage. Kobe used his to threaten the Lakers. However, you for some reason believe a player can use his stroke to make any freakin' decision he wants.

    Show me where I said players have the stroke to make any decision they want...prick.

    I never said it...you the one that started saying that, my guess is because you realized how incredibly stupid your original statements were.







    Dude, just provided one simple example with some facts to back it up. If you do, I'm make a post calling myself stupid and praising you. Come on, make me look bad. Do it. Or shut your bean hole.
    Dumbass..players do have the power to influence teams to sign players, to trade players...it just depends on the situation and what they are wanting.

    You a ing fool if you don't think Superstars have the power to get rid of scrubs or get them signed.

    I just can't believe you are too stupid to think of one example on your own. I know you were around during offseason after we won our last le...I want you to think about that offseason for a second. Think about it really hard for a second. I refuse to give you a name...






    LOL... I knew the internet meant a lot to you. Where you associate your mindless obsession of looking good for fictional names such as Sequ, Ducks, Manny, and so one with everyone on the internet. Dude, we don't think like you. And for those who do, we call them nutty. They believe in the state hospital along with Michael and yourself.
    See this where you are full of ....See, I'm a head most of the time, I argue with everyone at one point or another, because I genuinely enjoy it.

    You OTOT...often get worse reaction from people than I do..yet you are by and large a kissass, I mean I have seen you make some serious efforts to sucks peoples ass before and they still want to run you off....obviously you are having a bad life and are not wanting that reaction, and I'd say that problem probably does carry over into real life for you.

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    I'd like to impart to you some wisdom my father told me when I was acting as stupidly as you are and then wash my hands of this whole thing:
    "I'd love to keeping talking this over, but I've got some very important paint that I need to watch dry."

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    I'd like to impart to you some wisdom my father told me when I was acting as stupidly as you are and then wash my hands of this whole thing:
    "I'd love to keeping talking this over, but I've got some very important paint that I need to watch dry."
    But I have even more important grass to watch grow.

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    Show me where I said players have the stroke to make any decision they want...prick.
    as I said earlier. David has run off guys that were bad character...
    That's all that really needs to be said... or shown of just how smart our dear lady friend Whottt is... or should I say isn't.

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    How does me saying I think Dave has run off guys with bad character = me saying he had the stroke to force the team to make any decision he wanted?

    David Robinson got the Spurs to give him a contract guranteeing him an average of the top 3 salaries in the NBA, he got the Spurs to pay him like a million a year when he was still in the Navy...

    You don't think he had the stroke to get rid of a player, when he was playing for an organization that was struggling to keep itself afloat?

    The fact that he had a contract guranteeing him an average of the top 3 salaries in the NBA proves just how much influence he had...

    Superstars can get other players traded, they can get coaches fired...they have a lot of leverage and a lot of influence...how much they have varies depending on how bad their team wants to keep them and when they are up for contract renegotiation, stuff like that. The team doesn't have to do it...they could always trade the player away...but if they want to keep him they really don't have much of a choice.

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    He forced the team to give a contract? Um... no.

    He's the talent. A team keeps its talent by paying for it. Of course the Spurs are going to pay big for Dave in his prime, because Dave in his prime was one of the best. However, he never had any stroke to get rid of a bad apple. No player does. Sorry. You're just stupid for believing that.

    If you were one of the best software engineers at your job, and the rival company came to you with a better offer to work for them, but your current employer counters with a better offer. You sign it. Does that then mean you're able to fire or hire anyone you want? No. Of course not.

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    How does me saying I think Dave has run off guys with bad character = me saying he had the stroke to force the team to make any decision he wanted?
    as I said earlier. David has run off guys that were bad character...

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    He forced the team to give a contract? Um... no.

    He's the talent. A team keeps its talent by paying for it. Of course the Spurs are going to pay big for Dave in his prime, because Dave in his prime was one of the best. However, he never had any stroke to get rid of a bad apple. No player does. Sorry. You're just stupid for believing that.

    If you were one of the best software engineers at your job, and the rival company came to you with a better offer to work for them, but your current employer counters with a better offer. You sign it. Does that then mean you're able to fire or hire anyone you want? No. Of course not.
    Um if that company wants you to sign that offer and be productive and their survival depends on you...I gurantee you they are going to listen to what you have to say.


    I don't think you grasp just how dependent the Spurs were on Robinson...I don't think grasp how dependent the Spurs were on Duncan. I don't think you grasp how dependent the Nets were on Kidd...the TWolves are on Garnett.

    You just don't get it.

    What's next? You gonna tell me that food isn't a necessity, you just have to eat it if you want to live? Dumbass. STFU and stop arguing with your betters.

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    Um if that company wants you to sign that offer and be productive and their survival depends on you...I gurantee you they are going to listen to what you have to say.
    How old are you Whottt? Seriously, have you ever had a job? Of course besides being a double for Anna Nicole and Paris Hilton and being their go to girl when it came to tests and quizzes.


    I don't think you grasp just how dependent the Spurs were on Robinson...I don't think grasp how dependent the Spurs were on Duncan. I don't think you grasp how dependent the Nets were on Kidd...the TWolves are on Garnett.
    Yes, in terms of basketball. But in the business aspect of things, they have no choice on who is hired and who is fired. That falls on the OWNER[S] of the team, not the PLAYERS.

    You just don't get it.
    No, I get it, you're far from it.

    What's next? You gonna tell me that food isn't a necessity, you just have to eat it if you want to live? Dumbass. STFU and stop arguing with your betters.
    See, now you're not making sense. You weren't before but this is worse.

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    This is a weird argument.

    I have a question, most people who don't want Malone ... why?

    I know with timvp, it's not because he's a dirty player or because of the hit on David Robinson, it's because he thinks he's a drama queen who will just be coattailing to a possible Championship.

    But what, specifically, is everyone else's reason?

    If you say he has bad character, what do you mean exactly? Playing dirty? Any off the court activities?

    Be specific, thanks.

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    I don't care. We've had plenty of coattailers on the Spurs and I heard no one cry.

    Porter, Ferry, Willis, Kersey, Wilkins, etc. And I don't remember people ing about them.

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    Regardless of emotions tied to the mailman here's the facts. He's super old, coming off a major knee injury, has sat out half the season and would be dropped into the mix against guys who are in midseason form, and the spurs are in first place right now. There's just no need.

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    He's super old, coming off a major knee injury, has sat out half the season and would be dropped into the mix against guys who are in midseason form, and the spurs are in first place right now. There's just no need.
    This is pretty much my opinion.

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    You sound like a very intelligent individual, Kori.

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    But the Spurs have nothing really to lose if they add him.

    The worst thing that could happen is he sucks major ass, you just don't play him. Yet we still go on winning games like we did before.

    He does well, makes the team even better and we're getting ready for a parade.

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