Manu made the all star team

[Rummpd]

Not sold on Rashard Lewis but the coaches apparently are - so be it.

[tekdragon]

Wonderful news!!!

Congrats to Manu! Well deserved!

Any basketball fan who watches this guy play a few times will become a Manu fan. You can't help but love his game, his hustle, and his heart. The guy's just exciting to watch. He reminds me of Bird in that way: Love him or hate him, you have to watch him play because when he's on the court, something will happen. And if you watch long enough, you're likely to see something you've never seen before.

He's that special.

I think this year he's really come into his own, he's now really comfortable with the NBA game and the NBA season, and I think that he'll finally be able to really show what he can do in the playoffs. He's shown flashes of brilliance on the biggest stage, but I think we've only scratched the surface of his greatness in the clutch. I predict that will change with this year's postseason, but we'll get a glimpse at the All-Star Game. He's going to do something spectacular. Bet on it.

He's ready.

[Medvedenko]

I don't know....good for Manu and the spurs...I guess you need to have 2 players go from the best team in the NBA...Congrats....
I wouldn't have picked him over B Miller, or Bibby...but I like Manu better than those players.

[Obvious]

“I’m very, very honored because the coaches are the ones who are watching tapes 24-7,” Ginobili said. “Sometimes you may have a special relationship with the fans because the way you play or because where you are from, but coaches are coaches. They don’t care where you are from. They just care if you play good.”

That's why this pick is so important, it was made by people who really knows.

[T Park]

I wouldn't have picked him over B Miller, or Bibby

wich goes to show NBA coaches know more than you, so STFU.

[Guru of Nothing]

I think Tony will participate in the Skills Challenge; so they'll be a lot of Spurs in Denver.

Will Eva be there with Tony? Enquiring minds want to know.

[Medvedenko]

I guess 16,4,4 get's you an All-star appearance....it just shows you how much the record plays into it....Unless the system is keeping his numbers down....I don't know.
I feel for Elton Brand the most...

[whottt]

I guess 16,4,4 get's you an All-star appearance....it just shows you how much the record plays into it....Unless the system is keeping his numbers down....I don't know.
I feel for Elton Brand the most...

Maybe the coaches just know more than you...maybe since he plays against their teams, they have a better gauge of his All Star Worthiness...

Even Magic picked him as an AS.

You cannot judge Manu just by his stats...but you can judge him by his slapping of an All Star Team, Larry Brown and Pop, in the Olympics.

Don't you think there would be something a little wrong with all those Suns making the All Star team ahead of Manu when Manu whipped their ass in the Olympics?

And guess what, he did it a few weeks ago in the NBA also.

I wouldn't get too caught up on stats if I were you...going by stats Kobe damn sure doesn't deserve to be starting...luckily for him the fans are stupid....the fans made Kobe a starter, the coaches made Manu an AS...which selection to you think has more credibility behind it?

[exstatic]

it just shows you how much the record plays into it....

The Lakers benefitted from it, now they have to suck it. Brand was good, but frankly, his numbers don't jump out against the other forwards, and his team is still sucking wind.

[T Park]

BTW,

does

Manu STILL = Manure???


Just curious......


Oh, and where is Ghost's "We dont have a legit star outside of Duncan"

or the "We CANT acquire a star outside of Tim Duncan."

[The_Game]

I wouldn't get too caught up on stats if I were you...going by stats Kobe damn sure doesn't deserve to be starting...luckily for him the fans are stupid....the fans made Kobe a starter, the coaches made Manu an AS...which selection to you think has more credibility behind it?

Yeah it's not like Kobe puts up good numbers..he only averages 27,7 and 7..what terrible stats

[MosesGuthrie]

Jason Richardson, Bibby or Webber should have been selected over Manu.

you are so right. What do NBA coaches know? All they do for a living is NBA ball.

it just shows you how much the record plays into it....

Yeah...probably had nothing to do with the fact that the coaches thought he was worthy of it or anything trivial like that.

mmmm.....can you smell it? (takes large whiff...exhales...) nice, garden fresh hate.

[Medvedenko]

Why do I even try to discuss the merits of an All-star selection....it's all BS...
Steve Francis didn't make the team...that's just sad. He's having a great season on a new team no less. Kobe the most effecient 2 guard in the L and averaging crazy numbers while being hurt and playing on a team with 4 new starters and a new coach. An all-star is indicative of a player you would build your team around...not a guy that doesn't even play 30 minutes a game and has a few all-nba worthy games....big woop. Look, I love Manu....but the NBA obviously likes to market the international players..I'm surprised Gasol didn't make it either.

[SpursWoman]

An all-star is indicative of a player you would build your team around...not a guy that doesn't even play 30 minutes a game and has a few all-nba worthy games....big woop. Look, I love Manu....but the NBA obviously likes to market the international players..I'm surprised Gasol didn't make it either.

No, an All Star Starter is voted in strictly by the fans. How many years in a row has Vince Carter made it? He may be playing now, but do you honestly think he was the best last season...etc? Is Yao honestly better than Shaq?

Manu's selection IMO means more than the starters in terms of actual merit because he was chosen by professionals, not just those who voted everyday on NBA.com and stuffed the ballot at games 'cuz he's cute.

[whottt]

Yeah it's not like Kobe puts up good numbers..he only averages 27,7 and 7..what terrible stats

NBA Field-Goal Shooting Leaders 
  Per Game Total   ADJ. 
NAME GP PPG FGM FGA FGM FGA FG% 2PM 2PA 2P% PPS* FG% 
1 Mike Miller, MEM 42 12.4 4.8 9.2 200 386 .518 127 223 .570 1.35 .613 
2 Manu Ginobili, SAS 46 15.9 5.2 10.6 238 486 .490 174 323 .539 1.51 .556 
3 Dwyane Wade, MIA 46 23.5 7.9 16.5 364 759 .480 361 745 .485 1.42 .482 
4 Bobby Simmons, LAC 48 16.4 6.4 13.3 305 637 .479 284 584 .486 1.24 .495 
5 Matt Harpring, UTH 44 13.0 4.9 10.5 217 460 .472 209 429 .487 1.24 .480 
6 Darius Miles, POR 35 12.4 5.1 10.8 178 378 .471 175 369 .474 1.15 .475 
7 Ricky Davis, BOS 48 14.8 5.5 11.9 264 571 .462 229 474 .483 1.25 .493 
8 Josh Howard, DAL 40 11.7 4.6 10.0 183 399 .459 164 334 .491 1.17 .482 
9 Raja Bell, UTH 42 11.7 4.7 10.3 197 433 .455 161 339 .475 1.13 .497 
10 Jalen Rose, TOR 47 16.3 5.9 13.0 276 609 .453 221 463 .477 1.26 .498 
11 Michael Redd, MIL 45 22.2 8.3 18.6 372 836 .445 306 667 .459 1.19 .484 
12 J. Richardson, GSW 39 22.3 8.9 20.0 347 780 .445 293 600 .488 1.11 .479 
13 Joe Johnson, PHO 49 16.1 6.2 14.1 306 689 .444 203 462 .439 1.15 .519 
14 Desmond Mason, MIL 44 16.6 5.7 12.8 250 564 .443 249 558 .446 1.29 .444 
15 Ben Gordon, CHI 44 13.7 5.0 11.3 220 497 .443 155 348 .445 1.21 .508 
16 Vince Carter, NJN/TOR 43 21.0 8.1 18.5 350 794 .441 295 649 .455 1.14 .475 
17 Paul Pierce, BOS 48 22.3 7.0 16.0 337 766 .440 281 587 .479 1.40 .477 
18 Bonzi Wells, MEM 42 11.2 4.2 9.6 177 403 .439 149 333 .447 1.17 .474 
19 R. Hamilton, DET 46 20.2 7.1 16.2 326 745 .438 308 684 .450 1.25 .450 
20 Larry Hughes, WAS 34 21.2 7.5 17.3 256 588 .435 223 486 .459 1.23 .463 
21 G. Wallace, CHA 40 11.0 4.1 9.5 165 380 .434 155 346 .448 1.16 .447 
22 Luol Deng, CHI 44 12.3 4.9 11.3 216 499 .433 187 393 .476 1.08 .462 
23 Ray Allen, SEA 43 24.0 8.1 18.8 347 807 .430 235 509 .462 1.28 .499 
24 Hedo Turkoglu, ORL 47 13.9 4.9 11.5 232 541 .429 163 369 .442 1.21 .493 
25 M. Finley, DAL 31 17.2 6.5 15.3 202 475 .425 147 330 .445 1.12 .483 
26 Tracy McGrady, HOU 46 25.8 9.0 21.4 416 983 .423 320 697 .459 1.21 .472 
27 Jeff McInnis, CLE 44 15.0 5.7 13.4 250 591 .423 181 402 .450 1.12 .481 
28 C. Mobley, ORL/SAC 34 16.1 5.6 13.2 189 450 .420 109 272 .401 1.22 .509 
29 J. Stackhouse, DAL 41 15.8 5.2 12.4 213 508 .419 190 416 .457 1.28 .442 
30 C. Maggette, LAC 38 21.1 6.2 14.9 236 565 .418 208 467 .445 1.42 .442 
31 L. Sprewell, MIN 46 12.5 4.8 11.5 221 530 .417 170 382 .445 1.08 .465 
32 Eddie Jones, MIA 49 12.7 4.3 10.3 211 507 .416 124 279 .444 1.23 .502 
33 M. Peterson, TOR 48 11.6 3.9 9.5 187 457 .409 108 266 .406 1.22 .496 
34 Kobe Bryant, LAL 34 27.5 8.4 20.6 285 702 .406 219 503 .435 1.33 .453 
35 J. Crawford, NYK 37 18.6 6.6 16.8 245 622 .394 154 362 .425 1.11 .467 
36 Kirk Hinrich, CHI 44 15.8 5.6 14.3 245 627 .391 162 379 .427 1.11 .457 
37 David Wesley, NOR/HOU 47 12.1 4.3 11.3 203 531 .382 140 364 .385 1.07 .442 
38 Q. Richardson, PHO 49 15.8 5.4 14.3 266 703 .378 117 281 .416 1.10 .484

 NBA Three-Point Shooting Leaders 
  Per Game Total   ADJ. 
NAME GP PPG 3PM 3PA 3PM 3PA 3P% 2PM 2PA 2P% PPS* FG% 
1 Fred Hoiberg, MIN 46 5.6 1.0 1.9 44 88 .500 37 72 .514 1.61 .644 
2 Joe Johnson, PHO 49 16.1 2.1 4.6 103 227 .454 203 462 .439 1.15 .519 
3 C. Mobley, ORL/SAC 34 16.1 2.4 5.2 80 178 .449 109 272 .401 1.22 .509 
4 E. Piatkowski, CHI 35 4.5 0.9 2.0 31 69 .449 24 60 .400 1.23 .547 
5 Mike Miller, MEM 42 12.4 1.7 3.9 73 163 .448 127 223 .570 1.35 .613 
6 Steve Smith, CHA 31 8.2 1.2 2.6 36 81 .444 47 106 .443 1.36 .540 
7 Ben Gordon, CHI 44 13.7 1.5 3.4 65 149 .436 155 348 .445 1.21 .508 
8 Jon Barry, ATL/HOU 39 5.9 1.1 2.6 42 100 .420 40 101 .396 1.15 .512 
9 M. Peterson, TOR 48 11.6 1.6 4.0 79 191 .414 108 266 .406 1.22 .496 
10 Fred Jones, IND 45 10.9 1.3 3.2 58 144 .403 107 241 .444 1.27 .504 
11 Hedo Turkoglu, ORL 47 13.9 1.5 3.7 69 172 .401 163 369 .442 1.21 .493 
12 Manu Ginobili, SAS 46 15.9 1.4 3.5 64 163 .393 174 323 .539 1.51 .556 
13 Jim Jackson, HOU/PHO 32 12.5 2.2 5.7 71 181 .392 78 158 .494 1.18 .544 
14 Michael Redd, MIL 45 22.2 1.5 3.8 66 169 .391 306 667 .459 1.19 .484 
15 S. Jackson, IND 16 16.1 2.0 5.1 32 82 .390 58 142 .408 1.15 .473 
16 Kareem Rush, LAL/CHA 40 8.0 1.0 2.7 41 107 .383 83 216 .384 0.98 .447 
17 Raja Bell, UTH 42 11.7 0.9 2.2 36 94 .383 161 339 .475 1.13 .497 
18 Eddie Jones, MIA 49 12.7 1.8 4.7 87 228 .382 124 279 .444 1.23 .502 
19 Vince Carter, NJN/TOR 43 21.0 1.3 3.4 55 145 .379 295 649 .455 1.14 .475 
  M. Finley, DAL 31 17.2 1.8 4.7 55 145 .379 147 330 .445 1.12 .483 
21 David Wesley, NOR/HOU 47 12.1 1.3 3.6 63 167 .377 140 364 .385 1.07 .442 
22 Jalen Rose, TOR 47 16.3 1.2 3.1 55 146 .377 221 463 .477 1.26 .498 
23 Ray Allen, SEA 43 24.0 2.6 6.9 112 298 .376 235 509 .462 1.28 .499 
24 C. Jacobsen, NOR/PHO 49 5.7 0.8 2.2 39 106 .368 42 96 .438 1.38 .498 
25 Jeff McInnis, CLE 44 15.0 1.6 4.3 69 189 .365 181 402 .450 1.12 .481 
26 D. Anderson, POR 39 10.3 1.3 3.6 51 140 .364 90 222 .405 1.11 .460 
27 Bryon Russell, DEN 41 4.7 0.9 2.4 36 99 .364 22 54 .407 1.27 .497 
28 Ricky Davis, BOS 48 14.8 0.7 2.0 35 97 .361 229 474 .483 1.25 .493 
29 Juan Dixon, WAS 41 8.9 0.9 2.4 36 100 .360 101 209 .483 1.18 .502 
30 Brent Barry, SAS 48 7.0 1.2 3.4 59 164 .360 51 90 .567 1.32 .549 
31 Q. Richardson, PHO 49 15.8 3.0 8.6 149 422 .353 117 281 .416 1.10 .484 
32 J. Crawford, NYK 37 18.6 2.5 7.0 91 260 .350 154 362 .425 1.11 .467 
33 L. Sprewell, MIN 46 12.5 1.1 3.2 51 148 .345 170 382 .445 1.08 .465 
34 Tracy McGrady, HOU 46 25.8 2.1 6.2 96 286 .336 320 697 .459 1.21 .472 
35 Kirk Hinrich, CHI 44 15.8 1.9 5.6 83 248 .335 162 379 .427 1.11 .457 
36 James Posey, MEM 30 8.7 1.3 3.9 39 117 .333 46 110 .418 1.15 .460 
37 Kobe Bryant, LAL 34 27.5 1.9 5.9 66 199 .332 219 503 .435 1.33 .453
38 Larry Hughes, WAS 34 21.2 1.0 3.0 33 102 .324 223 486 .459 1.23 .463 
39 Paul Pierce, BOS 48 22.3 1.2 3.7 56 179 .313 281 587 .479 1.40 .477 
40 Reggie Miller, IND 31 12.1 1.3 4.2 40 129 .310 89 166 .536 1.27 .505 
41 J.R. Smith, NOR 41 5.9 0.9 2.8 35 116 .302 58 149 .389 0.92 .417 
42 J. Richardson, GSW 39 22.3 1.4 4.6 54 180 .300 293 600 .488 1.11 .479

Doesn't it seem odd to you guys that the Starting Shooting Guard in the AS game is actually one of the worst shooters in the NBA?

But never let the truth get in the way of the hype right?


>>>insert ty teamate excuse here<<<<

[Medvedenko]

You're telling me that each of the starters who were voted by the fans wouldn't be on the team this year....VC is an all-star...he's a superstar player, yes he's had a few poor stretches....doesn't diminish his talents. It's all about team record...that's all I see.

[ALVAREZ6]

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, This is awesome

[T Park]

Of course not.

I mean, he can dunk and has shown hes a complete sleeze ball.

What else. His shooting is dow because Crank Fu aint there anymore.


But, he would never admit that.

[MosesGuthrie]

Look, I love Manu....but the NBA obviously likes to market the international players..I'm surprised Gasol didn't make it either.

ahh...the time tested conspiracy theory.

Isn't it just possible that the coaches may think he deserves it because of his play?

[MosesGuthrie]

It's all about team record

that is an opinion not a fact.

[SpursWoman]

You're telling me that each of the starters who were voted by the fans wouldn't be on the team this year....VC is an all-star...he's a superstar player, yes he's had a few poor stretches....doesn't diminish his talents. It's all about team record...that's all I see.

Yao > Shaq?

[Nikos]

The league likes to market a lot of things. It is not a big deal.

It is entertainment and a business. And it is not like Kobe did not get his props and hype before the whole rape thing. As a matter of fact he still gets plenty of hype now, especially when he goes against Shaq (see AS game commercial).

BTW, Kobe is far from being the most efficient guard in the NBA. He has been all BUT efficient this season. He has been racking up a bunch of stats, but not efficiently. The NBA calls their stat efficiency, but it is more like ac lated good stats - bad stats. When you play tons of minutes, get a ton of shots your likely to get a high efficiency rating.

The idea is to be efficient based on the number of possesions and shots you get. And Kobe has not been efficient in that regard. His points per shot/possesion are way down this season and he is turning the ball over a lot.

Kobe can and should turn it around. But so far he is underacheiving this season. I expect him to play better when he gets back.

[whottt]

You're telling me that each of the starters who were voted by the fans wouldn't be on the team this year....VC is an all-star...he's a superstar player, yes he's had a few poor stretches....doesn't diminish his talents. It's all about team record...that's all I see.

I'm telling you that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

The same people that made Yao a starter over Shaq made Kobe a starter...while coaches and HOF players were the ones lobbying for Manu.


>>>>insert typical Lakerfan BS conspiracy theory here<<<<

[Medvedenko]

Whott...thanks I guess if FG% is so important....than the top 8 of the 10 players are not allstars..however are all tops in FG%....yes thanks for your worthless post.

[whottt]

Whott...thanks I guess if FG% is so important....than the top 8 of the 10 players are not allstars..however are all tops in FG%....yes thanks for your worthless post.

Yeah cuz...no one except Kobe the great can average 20 points a game jacking up 29 shots a game.