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    It's possible. If this information is coming from the mouth of his agent then Farmer knows he is going to have to play balls out in every minute he gets. We'll see how it plays out.
    The question is will Pop give him some time to showcase his skills. And the risk is whether Hairston will be available, if and when they do cut Farmer?

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    I think it's Farmer's spot to keep unless he regresses. The comment by his agent might be what the Spurs told him, it might not, but if so, it still could just be a statement intended to motivate Farmer to not slack off.

    The common assumption is that Farmer's fate will be determined by how well Manu plays when he returns. I would look at it the opposite. I think Farmer's fate will be determined more by how well, or possibly, how poorly the rest of the wings play throughout the season.

    If Finley disappoints (granted, a hard task to accomplish in Pop's eyes) or Udoka and Mason don't deliver, then I could see Farmer sticking it out until the playoffs, assuming he doesn't make his own mistakes. Jump shooting seems to be even more coveted in the playoffs when every team packs the paint and dares us to shoot from the outside. If Farmer has even modest success then I think it will be more difficult to bring in another wing player half-way through the season, well knowing they won't be able to contribute much. With our window closing every year, I don't see that being a direction to pursue.

    The thing to remember is that last year, even with Manu playing at an extremely high level, there still was a desperate need for outside shooting. My opinion is that situation won't change unless Mason or Tolliver deliver. If those guys play at a high level then maybe Farmer is gone but Mason and Tolliver could easily have the first year adjustment blues. I suppose Farmer would just as easily have issues adapting to the system but he seems like a player that would be less likely to worry about fitting in and realize his longevity with the Spurs will be based almost solely on his shooting. He hasn't been bashful so far. If Pop now sees him as a shooter then he could even give him huge leeway in the same way Pop has allowed Tolliver a permanent green light.

    Who knows if he even sniffs the court? There are a myriad of scenarios. We'll see what happens. I suppose it's silly to put much hopes into an unproven young player, but I'd rather follow that development than how our core ages and slowly starts to decline.

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    Pop has dreams of Hill and Farmer putting up 35 points a night.

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    In the McDonald post above, he references the fact that Farmer has played parts of two seasons in the D-League

    Undrafted out of Southern California in 2004, Farmer played 48 games with the Tulsa 66ers in 2005-06, and returned for 32 the next season after Seattle waived him.

    If that is true, wouldn't he no longer be eligible for D-League assignment?
    Farmer joined the D-League each year as a free agent; he was not assigned as a member of an NBA roster. He played regular season games for Seattle in 06-07. Therefore, he could be assigned by the Spurs for one season. The only thing he could really pick up there is the Spurs defensive system.

    If Farmer is an immediate bust, he could be waived at any time for Hairston or possibly someone with more scoring potential like Luke Jackson. If he is at all effective, I can see his being kept all season.

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    Coby Karl would not be a bad option either now that he was waived by the Lakers.

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    Farmer joined the D-League each year as a free agent; he was not assigned as a member of an NBA roster. He played regular season games for Seattle in 06-07. Therefore, he could be assigned by the Spurs for one season. The only thing he could really pick up there is the Spurs defensive system.
    That's what I thought but Bruno pointed out in another thread that Farmer technically already has two years of NBA experience. He picked one up earlier in his career with the Pacers even though he didn't play a game.

    So the Spurs actually can't send Farmer to the D-League. That makes me think that the plan to is to drop Farmer and pick up Hairston (or another prospect who has DLeague eligibility) once Manu comes back.

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    Yeah, Karl is probably better all around but not as prolific a scorer.

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    That's what I thought but Bruno pointed out in another thread that Farmer technically already has two years of NBA experience. He picked one up earlier in his career with the Pacers even though he didn't play a game.
    NBA.com says one year on his player file, so I don't know.

    So the Spurs actually can't send Farmer to the D-League. That makes me think that the plan to is to drop Farmer and pick up Hairston (or another prospect who has DLeague eligibility) once Manu comes back.
    Like I said, if he plays decently at the NBA level, he'll probably be kept.

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    Hey Chump, what's the time frame and process by which Hairston does or does not end up in Austin? Any team can pick him up at any time, right? Isn't he a free agent as of this moment?

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    He can be claimed off waivers right now under whatever terms the Spurs signed him. It might be advantageous for a team to sign him to a different contract after he clears waivers and becomes a true free agent.

    In short, yes, he can be picked up at any time.

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    Cool. Now we wait. I'm hoping Detroit doesn't have a roster spot open.

    And until someone claims him, can he go to any D league team he wants?

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    NBA.com says one year on his player file, so I don't know.

    Like I said, if he plays decently at the NBA level, he'll probably be kept.
    I agree if he plays well then he should be kept even when Manu comes back. You never know when we'll go into those scoring droughts.

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    Cool. Now we wait. I'm hoping Detroit doesn't have a roster spot open.
    they don't have a spot.
    but if I was Detroit, I would take Hairston over Acker anytime and I don't think Acker's contract is totally guaranteed.
    from all teams I fear the Kings most. they have an open roster spot and a big need for a wing, who offers more than 120 lbs and can defend a bit.

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    they don't have a spot.
    but if I was Detroit, I would take Hairston over Acker anytime and I don't think Acker's contract is totally guaranteed.
    from all teams I fear the Kings most. they have an open roster spot and a big need for a wing, who offers more than 120 lbs and can defend a bit.
    At the same time, you're counting on the Sacramento Kings to make a sound personnel decision. I like our odds.

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    i see the Spurs trading big in January to get a primer player... we shouldn't be very concerned about these guys since they won't play much... think about it? Bonner, JV. Mahimni and Fin are all expendable even maybe Oberto... can't wait for the season to roll out...

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    At the same time, you're counting on the Sacramento Kings to make a sound personnel decision. I like our odds.
    yeah. right. forgot to factor in this. they will more likely give Bonzi Wells the contract he rejected 3 years ago.

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    Any news on Farmer's contract?

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    Any news on Farmer's contract?
    according to shamsport.com
    08-09: $797,581
    09-10: $855,189
    not guaranteed.

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    Not impressed by this guy. He plays little D, is a poor mans version of Mason, Hes only 6-5 so not really big enough to give us mins at the 3. We could have used Hairstons D and all around game. He could play the 3, was a good shot blocker defender and use to playing against bigger guys as he often played the 4 for the Ducks.

    I think we really needed to at a big and watkins would have been a much better fit than Tolliver. I like Tolliver but a 6-8 Center? We needed a shot blocker to go with Duncan, our fg% D has been awful, thats due to having non mobile, undersized bigs....so what do we do? sign another one.

    I know Manu is out for a bit but Fin, Udoka, Mason and Hill are more than enough to pick up the slack. Why sign a guy who is 27 and is gonna be your 6th wing player? Our bigs are decrepit!!!!

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