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    I always liked Diaw, but I'm not sure how much heart he's got. If LB can put some fire him him (or under his ass), he might be a near all-star again with his versatility.
    i agree, honestly i think the guy can score almost everytime he has the ball, his footwork is nice. but he DOES NOT want to shoot, or hes just too unselfish to put it. And isnt aggresive enough, he just needs to be more confident

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    steve kerr is doing an amazing job at the suns organization, i enjoy the failure the suns bring hahahahahhahahahahahaha

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    well that's one less asshole to worry about in the suns.

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    Bobcats release another their lone scorer to give the slot to another one............







    Michael Jordan.....lol

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    I don't think this is a good trade like what others are saying.

    I thought the Sun's best roster was with Nash Marion Amare Raja Diaw(they also gave us the biggest trouble)
    but ever since Kerr took over he really ed up the team and now he is breaking the core of the group. Even though Raja is declining, he is a great team player. Both Diaw and Raja had been through a lot with the team. Trading them away would make them worse in the long run

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    I don't think this is a good trade like what others are saying.

    I thought the Sun's best roster was with Nash Marion Amare Raja Diaw(they also gave us the biggest trouble)
    but ever since Kerr took over he really ed up the team and now he is breaking the core of the group. Even though Raja is declining, he is a great team player. Both Diaw and Raja had been through a lot with the team. Trading them away would make them worse in the long run

    well see, the team wasnt getting anywhere with them lets see what happens with. pretty much last push for couple years with shaq retiring, nash decline, amare probally gone in 2010, hill retiring. dont have time to wait for diaw to live to his full potiential, and if u guys watched raja this year and his D than u would understand. Panic move by Kerr knowning this thing will be done in a couple years in my opinion................

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    Is kerr a double agent?

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    I've been in deep thought about this trade since it happened, and this is what I've come up with.

    Raja Bell was my favorite player on the Phoenix Suns. He has a great desire to win, a killer instinct, an insanely good 3-point shot, he was a stellar defensive player in years past, and seemed like a great teammate. His antics and heroics in the 2006 playoffs against the Lakers and Clippers earned him legendary status with me, and almost all other Suns fans. We simply love the guy. But there's a misconception about his performance this year that might make you think this trade is a really bad one:

    His defense this year has been pretty bad. He's clearly lost a step or two over the last two years, and opposing SG's have been burning him routinely. You guys can talk all you want about how the Suns traded away their best defender, but our best defender is no longer that great of a defender.

    Kerr, having noticed this, decided that since it's not possible to be a defensive juggernaut with so many bad defenders on one team, it might be a better idea to construct the best offensive lineup in the league.

    As for Boris Diaw--he's one of the most talented players in the entire league. Watching so much talent get wasted on such a heartless and passive player is akin to watching your extremely intelligent firstborn child decide that he'd rather be a construction worker than a structural engineer. He always produced for us, but he could have done so much more. Oh, and we're paying him $9 mil. Even with Shaq's ridiculous contract on the books, Diaw was the most overpaid player on our team. I loved Diaw when he played to his potential, but 9 out of every 10 nights, we saw Doris instead of Boris.

    Bell was unhappy with Porter's system, and the Suns have a tendency to trade away players they think might be cancerous in the locker room. Bell's not a good enough player to warrant a pass on his pessimistic behavior. It makes sense that they traded him.

    That said, Long Live Raja Bell. He won't be leaving my signature anytime soon. I wish him and Boris nothing but success in Charlotte.

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    ^ thanks Xylus, this pretty much tells in better words and with more insight what I tried to say on page one of this thread, when the whole forum was busy finding some superlatives how idiotic this trade was from the Suns side.

    once more:
    Bell is no longer the defender he used to be and J-Rich isn't as bad on defense as some make him.
    J-Rich is a scorer, but he was never a me first ball hog. in fact he's a good team player and great locker room guy. he just always was asked be the #1 option on his teams.
    watch out for him taking a reduced role on offense with the Suns and therefore play more defense. without complaining.
    Barnes does what Diaw did for 10% of the money. he doesn't have the talent and versatility, but he has the heart. and he does play defense. dirty, but quite effective. (remember what he did to Dirk in the 2007 PO?)
    and then there is Dudley. he will be a quite nice complementary piece, when the Suns go slow with Shaq in the line up.

    people here also shouldn't ask, who will play defense on the Suns team. we should ask, who of our guys will defend them. like Bell Bruce is no longer the premium defender he was. we will be able to slow Nash and Barbosa with Tony and Hill, but we won't have a legit defender for either Amare and J-Rich. (beside the fact, that it never was the best idea when Tim had to guard Shaq).
    and Barnes gives up the same match up problems Diaw used to give us.

    the more I think about it, the worse this trade looks for the Spurs.

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    not so disastrous for phoenix... j-rich should be a solid scoring option who can run. however i do think spurs can easily topple the suns now

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    Great trade for the Suns who will tend back towards more scoring and less of the defensive style that wasn't working for them anyway. JRich is a very good SG, and he will score in bunches of Nash's passes. They're still not built to beat us, and never will be.

    OTOH, what is Charlotte thinking? Diaw had better play to his potential there or this is a terrible trade for them.

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    Kerr abuses Nash again!

    The first time:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Z4K...eature=related

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    I was hoping you'd post your thoughts on this one. But I have to say that my first response to

    Kerr, having noticed this, decided that since it's not possible to be a defensive juggernaut with so many bad defenders on one team, it might be a better idea to construct the best offensive lineup in the league.
    is that, if this is really Kerr's current thinking, I hope D'Antoni gives him a call from New York to say, "Gee, I wish I'd thought of that."

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    bad trade for Suns..they need some defense..

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    I'm sorry but adding a selfish chucker toa team with players like Stoudamire and Shaq is a recipe for disaster.

    Ssshhh! Don't tell the suns that! Keep it on the down low!

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    It's definitely a better move for the Suns than the Bobcats. I could see Larry Brown liking a tough vet like Raja, lost step or not, though I doubt he'll be of much use to Charlotte. Boris Diaw strikes me as the precise sort of softy that he'll turn into his personal whipping boy until he completely craters and LB demands that Jordan trade him, which will be tough to do because he's got a contract.

    As for Richardson on the Suns, they get back the backcourt size and athleticism they lost when Joe Johnson left for Atlanta. There's a slim chance that somehow between he, Amare, and Shaq all needing the ball that the Suns can make some noise. And that's not bad when all they lost was a past his prime player and a guy with a lousy contract. Low price/potentially high reward trade for them for this season, although still probably not enough to counteract Nash and Shaq steadily declining bodies. Beyond that it's great for them though, as they get out from under a bad contract and get a high 2nd rounder. It's gonna take a lot of great moves like this to wash the stink of trading for Shaq off of Kerr though.

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    I'm most curious how Amare will respond to this trade. He's so eager to be recognized as the main man on the Suns.. unfortunately the hiring of Shaq guaranteed that he and not Amare would get the attention and publicity.. the Suns reengineerred their game just to accomodate Shaq and now here comes another guy to share the limelight with.. the Suns could be even more fractured as a result of this trade.

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    To the poster who asked how the spurs are gonna defend the suns i think.

    Finley will be vanished from this games.

    And you have to come up with the Suns players firs, because they can only put 5.

    if they go Nash-JRich-Hill-Amare-Shaq, we can go TP-Manu-Bowen-Duncan-KT or include Finley on Hill if necesary or Udoka, i donīt think itīs much of a problem.

    TP can usually handle Nash, and i think Hill will do a extremely good job on Nash also. Manu can Handle Hill or Barbosa and let Udoka-Bowen handle JRich, we have a lot of options as most Spurs players know how to defend well, and Finley sometimes can do it too.

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    It's a good trade for Diaw, he will improve now and show he has a lot of talent

    After 4 games with his new team Boris has a 18,3 ppg 7,3 reb and 3,8 apg. Against Menphis he had a season high at 26 and 10, the MIP Diaw is back.

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    After 4 games with his new team Boris has a 18,3 ppg 7,3 reb and 3,8 apg. Against Menphis he had a season high at 26 and 10, the MIP Diaw is back.
    Diaw was huge for the Suns...when Amare was out. He never seemed to mesh with the whole intact team, though. Ah, well. Suns fan won't have Doris Meow to kick around any more.

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    After 4 games with his new team Boris has a 18,3 ppg 7,3 reb and 3,8 apg. Against Menphis he had a season high at 26 and 10, the MIP Diaw is back.
    He's probably motivated to show everyone how good he can be. Once he finds an In-n-Out burger near his house and also a French Restaurant lazy Diaw will be back till his next contract year.

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    Basically Richardson versus Manu is the key should these two teams meet again, which is not something I'd be comfortable with right now.

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    seeing as I and O doesn't venture past Phoenix I doubt he will find one.

    Although he might find a white castle...

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    Basically Richardson versus Manu is the key should these two teams meet again, which is not something I'd be comfortable with right now.
    Bowen would guard Richardson, Ginobili on Barnes.

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