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  1. #101
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    I don't think we can win this year if we replace Manu with a quality SF or C.
    Against the Celtics or Lakers, quality will not be enough.
    With a healthy Manu... you never know. In playoff he could still have these crazy Manu games...
    None of the player we would get can play like a MVP. Manu is not consistant... but when he is on, he is the best player in the league.

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    Trading Manu would be like getting the team neutered.

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    Duncan would've had no les in 05 and 07 without Ginobili either genius.
    Sure he would have. Dominate big men win les. Just surround them with good complimentary players, which is what Manu is and Carter is also a complimentary good player and its enough to win a le.


    Duncan and Shaq have been the two most dominate big men in the league in the last 10 years. Its no coincidence that most of the les in the last 10 years have either of those two guys on them.

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    Sure he would have. Dominate big men win les. Just surround them with good complimentary players, which is what Manu is and Carter is also a complimentary good player and its enough to win a le.


    Duncan and Shaq have been the two most dominate big men in the league in the last 10 years. Its no coincidence that most of the les in the last 10 years have either of those two guys on them.
    I'm having a really hard time imagining Vince-halfman-half-a-season in place of Manu against the Pistons in 2005.

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    I see the village idiots are out in full force. Notice that the only jackasses asking to trade Manu are the same idiots that have been talking about it for years. Its not logic, its pure, unadulterated HATE!

    Like Kori said, the man is shooting the best percentage of his life and you ing idiots want to trade him. Gee... I wonder why

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    No freaking way. At times, Manu drives me crazy, both ways, as much as any Spurs player. But there's no freaking way the Spurs can or should trade him. He's too great f a player. There's an old NBA axiom that you never trade away a HOF player. Manu is exactly that.

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    This has got to be the dumbest post of the thread.
    You are comparing Elliott (retired)
    To Manu (not retired).

    Apples and oranges.
    you got to think a little harder then that, get to the concept. which is that past accomplishments don't translate to future les. At some point a player starts to lose his effectiveness on the court, this is happening to Manu, and it's only going to get worse, the injuries are only going to get more frequent as well.

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    you got to think a little harder then that, get to the concept. which is that past accomplishments don't translate to future les. At some point a player starts to lose his effectiveness on the court, this is happening to Manu, and it's only going to get worse, the injuries are only going to get more frequent as well.
    oh that's brilliant! Manu is losing his effectiveness? really? 'cause last I checked he is coming from his best regular season of his career and is shooting even better right now...

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    ok hear me out before you all howl me down... please?
    trading manu would help us greatly, its just a matter of trading for the right piece.
    mason would be our starting SG (more than qualified for that role) and the player we trade for manu can fill a hole in our team.
    trading him for a quality SF or C would definitely put us close to the top of the league.

    i know just about every spurs fan loves manu, but im just saying that pulling the trigger on a deal with the right price would immensely improve the team.

    FAIL

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    book it...without manu we probably would have one less ring an detroit one more

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    Sure he would have. Dominate big men win les. Just surround them with good complimentary players, which is what Manu is and Carter is also a complimentary good player and its enough to win a le.


    Duncan and Shaq have been the two most dominate big men in the league in the last 10 years. Its no coincidence that most of the les in the last 10 years have either of those two guys on them.
    Shaq didn't win squat until Kobe Bryant developed.

    Wrong again.

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    you got to think a little harder then that, get to the concept. which is that past accomplishments don't translate to future les. At some point a player starts to lose his effectiveness on the court, this is happening to Manu, and it's only going to get worse, the injuries are only going to get more frequent as well.
    by chance do you have any way to prove this post of yours? statistically wise? i wonder...

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    Any post about trading one of the Big Three is a joke...

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    you got to think a little harder then that, get to the concept. which is that past accomplishments don't translate to future les. At some point a player starts to lose his effectiveness on the court, this is happening to Manu, and it's only going to get worse, the injuries are only going to get more frequent as well.


    Agree. Too many people here hold on to past accomplishments and think that will fortell future success.

    The key to maintaining success is to be one step ahead in anticipating the future and build a team for what players will give back in the future not what they did in the past.

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    Is it really entertaining to start the threads 'Trade Manu' year in and year out? I almost get used to this. Nearly every month someone wants to trade Manu.

    I still remember that the "Manu is Liability" thread and "Manu is God" thread are on the same page last playoff. How funny, isn't it?

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    Any post about trading one of the Big Three is a joke...
    Why
    This team will no longer win with the so called big 3 and and bunch of below average players.

    Now I like Hill and believe he will be a future star but he will lose confidence playing sporatic minutes playing behind Manu so it will take longer now for him to reach his potential.

    Its better for the Spurs to trade manu for a top big and start Hill now. By the end of the season Hill will be a quality sg/ part time pg and by next year Hill will be a borderline star. Develope this kid or take the chance he loses confidence as his game is put on hold as a backup.

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    Shaq didn't win squat until Kobe Bryant developed.

    Wrong again.
    Kobe hasn't won yet without Shaq. Shaq has won without Kobe.

    Why don't you take your own advice and do me a favor and ignore me.

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    This team will no longer win with the so called big 3 and and bunch of below average players.

    Now I like Hill and believe he will be a future star but he will lose confidence playing sporatic minutes playing behind Manu so it will take longer now for him to reach his potential.

    Its better for the Spurs to trade manu for a top big and start Hill now. By the end of the season Hill will be a quality sg/ part time pg and by next year Hill will be a borderline star. Develope this kid or take the chance he loses confidence as his game is put on hold as a backup.
    the spurs big 3 are still in their prime (except tony he'll be better )

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    rascal, the Spurs would not have a the 2005 ring is it weren't for Manu.

    Suck on that for a while!

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    by chance do you have any way to prove this post of yours? statistically wise? i wonder...
    unfortunately, stats ac ulate after the games are played. so come back in a year or 2, and there'll be of numbers for me to slap you around with.

    to maintain a great team, you can't rely on past stats and greatness, you have to be continually building for the future. but, oh wait, you don't care about that, you only care about Manu's legacy, and being on the Spurs greatly improves it

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    This is such a stupid thread.

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    This place never ceases to amaze me.


    unbelievable.

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    The Spurs since 2002 are Pop + Tim + Tony + Manu + Bruce.
    That's the Spurs i love. That core of guys has won 3 les.
    That team has a soul and some pseudo fans want to break it.

    Spurs will win with them or die with them.

    It is not about always winning...
    What about loyalty, what about faith, what about pride.
    Maybe they will win a 5th le together, maybe not... But i love that team for all his greatness and with his weaknesses.

    4 les in 9 years, 50+ win every years... And some of you can't do anything but complain, complain, complain. Get a life !

    I hope that Pop, Tim, Tony, Manu & Bruce have another in them... And if not, i am still proud of them.
    I am a Spurs fan, and for 10 years i am a witness of one of the greatest team in sports history.
    We, Spurs fans, are blessed. Appreciate what you have.

    Last edited by timaios; 12-19-2008 at 01:34 PM.

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    It is not about always winning...
    I really hope the Spurs front office does not take this approach when they make decisions about the roster...

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    unfortunately, stats ac ulate after the games are played. so come back in a year or 2, and there'll be of numbers for me to slap you around with.

    to maintain a great team, you can't rely on past stats and greatness, you have to be continually building for the future. but, oh wait, you don't care about that, you only care about Manu's legacy, and being on the Spurs greatly improves it
    therefore AFTER 25 games you have NO PROVE of this so called estimated over creative post of yours... you should stop posting dude for real you have already damaged your image and you're about to build a "don't even read his posts" ala "mrspurs" kind of reputation... get real already...

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