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    You are just pulling weird stuff out of nowhere now. You actually think Tony resent Pop for being nice to people? And you actually think Pop was mean to Beno?

    Yeah, Pop questioned Beno's manhood time and again when Beno was hurt. Warranted or not.

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    This stuff isn't necessary at all. Simmer down or your Spurstalk time (under this user name) will be short.
    Sorry but someone above set me off when they said the exact same thing about me (non-native english speaker). I wonder if you took the time to correct them also???

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    Pass it to Pop Tony.

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    PS: i clearly can make mistakes since english isn't my mother tongue. pointing it seems a lame thing but when the basher is wrong, it's just embarrassing for him.
    see this quote.

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    You are just pulling weird stuff out of nowhere now. You actually think Tony resent Pop for being nice to people? And you actually think Pop was mean to Beno?

    Parker actually said as much earlier in the year (I think it was during or shortly after training camp). He said it in jest, but he did say Pop is going easy on Hill. I viewed that interview on mysanantonio.com. I can't find it now, but you might.

    I think it makes sense that Hill would find Pop's favor alot faster than the young Parker, because Hill knows how to defend, and Pop loves D.

    And I don't think TP resents Pop, but he may be a little more reluctant to help a rookie shine if the rookie in question hasn't earned his stripes. That concept has been inherent in team sports since, well since they began.

    All that being said, last night Parker found Mason early and often in the first (though every pass didn't result in a shot). I think I may have misconstrued several possessions over the last few games as "freezing out," when in fact TP just likes to shoot as much as possible.

    Either that, or he got my message.

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    Parker actually said as much earlier in the year (I think it was during or shortly after training camp). He said it in jest, but he did say Pop is going easy on Hill. I viewed that interview on mysanantonio.com. I can't find it now, but you might.
    I was there. The reporter ask him as a joke and Tony responded as a joke.

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    I was there. The reporter ask him as a joke and Tony responded as a joke.
    Oh SNAP!!

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    Parker actually said as much earlier in the year (I think it was during or shortly after training camp). He said it in jest, but he did say Pop is going easy on Hill...
    As I said. And I didn't have to be there

    But I don't think that making rookies and first year players earn their stripes before they become prominent in the attack is all that hard to believe.

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    And to add a touch to that, I think doing that with Mason (though he's not a rookie, he hasn't "earned his stripes with us) would be a mistake.

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    Last night's game:

    Tony: 6 turnovers

    Beno: 6 steals
    I'm not saying there might be a correlation here, but what I'm saying is that there might be a correlation here. just sayin...
    Last edited by Blake; 12-23-2008 at 02:57 PM.

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    Last night's game:
    Beno got 3 off Tony, 2 off Hill and one off Mason.

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    yeah, I know. Just thought it was semi-funny.

    excuse me while I go chuckle to myself in a corner.

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    @ this thread and every other ZOMG Roger Mason have my first baby threads.

    One of these 2 players is an all star. One is not. Game over

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    @ this thread and every other ZOMG Roger Mason have my first baby threads.

    One of these 2 players is an all star. One is not. Game over
    Game not over!

    [Quoted from another forum:]
    So some fans say: Tony has the best FG%, why not let him get most of the shots?

    The problem with this view:
    If it is predetermined that TP will get most of the shot attempts, others will suffer. They won't be contributing as much, they won't be as confident at season's end. That is inevitable.

    So you say:
    But TP is shooting a great percentage, if he takes all the shots, we win regardless.

    I say:
    WE WILL WIN MOST GAMES, BUT WE WON'T WIN A LE THAT WAY. WE ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE WHEN WE PLAY TEAMS WITH STRONG INTERIOR DEFENSE, AND WE LOSE OPTION 1 AND 2 (Tim and Tony). Tony can't drive, and Tim can't create points on the block or in the lane. This has happened lately (Orlando, Hornets), and it almost got us against NO last year. Then where do we go?

    Well, the immediate answer would be Tony's jump shot and Manu. But with Manu's ailing ankle last year, and Tony's jump shot a little less reliable than advertised (lookin'good this year so far, I must say), didn't we see our options dwindle, and didn't we fall short as a result?

    And what of all these role players who have stood and watched Tony for 80% of the season (during those games where we played teams without interior D)? At this point they've been under-utilized and have little to contribute (see Udoka last year late). These guys need to be integrated into the attack, so that when option 1 and option 2 fail, we have guys who are confident in executing the offense and stepping up and taking a shot. Not everyone is going to respond like Steve Kerr in the Dallas series after riding pine all season.

    What does this mean? It means 80% of the time, we can win with the big three exclusively, or a big two even. But without effective role players, we won't win the le (you already knew that). BUT THOSE ROLE PLAYERS NEED TO BE INTEGRATED OVER THE ENTIRE SEASON, SO THEY ARE IN PLACE BY SEASON'S END, AND THAT MEANS TONY NEEDS TO DEFER JUST ENOUGH TO GET THEM 6-10 SHOTS A GAME.

    ITS CALLED MAKING THE PLAYERS AROUND YOU BETTER!!!!! (maybe you've heard the phrase).

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    Its called you know jack about basketball and it is apparent by the topic of this thread. You know even less about Spurs basketball than you do about all other forms of basketball.

    Game. Over.

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    Its called you know jack about basketball and it is apparent by the topic of this thread. You know even less about Spurs basketball than you do about all other forms of basketball.

    Game. Over.
    Nice reply. Get personal when you cant make a go of the debate. Sounds like somebody here is displaying their lack of knowledge on the topic, just seems like it might be you rather than me

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    Debate? You think you and your 48 posts are coming in here with new terrirtory that has never been discussed? There is nearly a daily "Tony pass to X" thread or "Tony pass more" thread. Its ridiculous. There's no need to debate the same thing over and over and over again with each new ignorant poster that registers.

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    Oh and LOL @ your PM.


    I'm sorry I didn't sit here and hit refresh every second to respond to your next moronic post.

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    Debate? You think you and your 48 posts are coming in here with new terrirtory that has never been discussed? There is nearly a daily "Tony pass to X" thread or "Tony pass more" thread. Its ridiculous. There's no need to debate the same thing over and over and over again with each new ignorant poster that registers.
    Just because someone hasn't posted here before yesterday doesn't mean they haven't been a fan for 20+ years. You assume too much.

    You fancy yourself as the GM of this Forum or what? And just becuase the debate has been had before doesn't mean it has been waged well. Fact is, 1 post, or 1000, I'm right on this one.

    I'll give you this: many people express their hate for TP on this board...I've seen it. But if you can distinguish the difference between those posters and my posts (it takes a little effort, especially if your slow on the uptake) then you may realize this is actually a different topic alltogether from the typical "TP Pass the Ball" thread.

    Maybe I should have left TP out of the le, but I still say he's the man for the job.

    And your still a clown.

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    And you're still a clown.
    Fixed.
    Your point is still redundant though.

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    at the OP accusing Parker of freezing out players then backpedaling and saying he's not a Parker hater.

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    Sorry but someone above set me off when they said the exact same thing about me (non-native english speaker). I wonder if you took the time to correct them also???
    Then don't presume to know more about the English language than other posters.

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    you know I see/ read threads like this about TP, but . he's like the only bright spot on this team. He is just working himself into game shape. He's still playing well, but there are other players who can play better as well. Ya Matt bonner has been a surprise, but I hated the way he performed in the big games the Spurs just had.

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    Just because someone hasn't posted here before yesterday doesn't mean they haven't been a fan for 20+ years. You assume too much.

    You fancy yourself as the GM of this Forum or what? And just becuase the debate has been had before doesn't mean it has been waged well. Fact is, 1 post, or 1000, I'm right on this one.

    I'll give you this: many people express their hate for TP on this board...I've seen it. But if you can distinguish the difference between those posters and my posts (it takes a little effort, especially if your slow on the uptake) then you may realize this is actually a different topic alltogether from the typical "TP Pass the Ball" thread.

    Maybe I should have left TP out of the le, but I still say he's the man for the job.

    And your still a clown.
    come on now you are the good guy that loves TP.

    By the way if you can correct my english I would be grateful, if you want I can help you to improve your french, spanish or portuguese.

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    You responded to this:

    Last time I checked, Mason was averaging 2+ point per game more per 48 minutes and shooting 10% better from the field with TP in the game compared to Hill. In fact, he's back in the starting lineup partly due to how well he plays with TP.
    with this:

    Looked it up...and you couldn't be more wrong.
    Mason and Hill on the floor: +/- of 52.
    Mason and Parker: +/- of 28.


    Proves my point.
    That doesn't even make sense. And you're ripping on people because of their language skills?

    You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Go away.

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